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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:17 PM

28-07-04
Well, I guess it was going too well. Been busy lately with a Spitfire for the D-Day GB, but I made sure I'd finished my F-84G.
The past two weeks have been filled with a move into our recently converted garage. It's now what my wife refers t oas "Liam's Playroom".
So, to cut a long story short, I was fixing some shelving to the wall and one of htem slipped and fell onto the shelf two below.

This shelf housed my Sabres and the F-84. They hit the laminate floor pretty hard.
Mostly intact tho', but the landing gear of the Dog and the one F-86 that went are in bits and the front windsheild of the F-84 has shattered. Took me almost 15 minutes to find the entire canopy.

A 1/48 Zero and a 1/48 Kittyhawk also took a hit, but they bounced well, with the Zero only suffering a splayed undercarriage.
But my heart is broken about the F-84.

I'll try and fix as best I can, but there goes my entry.

Liam

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:51 AM

liam that is terrible news. is it something you can replace? would hate to see all the time and effort wasted.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:34 AM

Hey Joe.
I think i can superglue hte landing gear, but the front wind-sheild is a write off. The main canopy section is not too bad and most of the other pieces can be saved....
The F-86 just lost a wing-gear, but if it can take the weight, then I might be ok.

Thinking I might submit a Fouga in Irish Air Corps colors that I made last year as a kinda subsitute. Its a kinda dull aluminium bare metal. It's the Fonderie 1/48 mixed-media kit.

Liam

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:43 PM

that is too bad. all the work for this. i feel for you.

joe

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shrikes

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November 2003
From: Manila, Philippines

Posted by shrikes on Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:27 PM

Terribe news, Liam. Hmmm... if they can be mended, you may need extra parts... I have a 1/48 Academy F-86F here that isn't doing anything! Let me know, and i'll ship them off to you! Wink [;)]

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Friday, July 30, 2004 10:03 AM

Ghettochild : Nice looking build. Did you use BMF or Spray?

BonesCoa- It's looking beautiful. I like the sublty of the NMF.

Liam: oi vey. the infamous cascading shelves. I feel you pain as I have bben there.
With the 84, can you portray it as an FO debacle? (This what happens when
you come face to face with air borne detrius ie: satellites re-entring the atmosphere)

update: haven't stated the '94 as of yet but will be shortly - Famous last words: 3 months - plenty of time.

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saltydog

Member since
July 2003
From: Lower Alabama

Posted by saltydog on Friday, July 30, 2004 6:41 PM

wow, nice NMF on the different birds guys!!! well, i guess since i signed up for the NMF GB, i should get started on mine!!!LOL. where do i get the cool badge? later.

Chris

The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris

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9x19mm

Member since
December 2003
From: Phoenix,Az

Posted by 9x19mm on Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:40 AM

I just finished up by mine. Hasegawa's P-51D with the out of box markings for JUMPIN JACQUES. Sorry I havent been able to post, but my comp still isnt online and work has been a bear these last weeks. Im hoping to get my comp back up and running when the wife comes back from visting her folks. Anyway just stopping in and saying hey, good luck with your builds.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:00 PM

31-07-04
Hey guys....
Well, now that the dust has settled I was thinking along the lines of what wihbi2 said: Maybe I could show it as a crashed bird? The landing gear on both can be fixed (Oggy swears it's possible) but he F-84's wind-sheild is in three bits with a fourth piece AWOL.

I've done it as FS-271 ( the one wit hthe blue and white arrow on the nose/fueslage) Anyone know if this bird ever came a cropper?
Anyways, might do a "what-if" kinda thing, just to save the work. Thinking sand for some reason.

Any suggestions?
Liam

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ghettochild

Member since
November 2003
From: houston,texas

Posted by ghettochild on Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:59 PM

wibhi2- i used alcad polished aluminium

-Josh

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:37 PM

Yeehah12001 enters the NMF G/B.
"Damn, it's quiet in here. Maybe....tooo quiet!"

Anyways, good news and bad news. The good news is that the F-84 is back on her feet! I was able to repair the landing gear and she's not as steady as before, but up on her undercarriage where she belongs.
The bad news is that the front wind-shield is in four bits. The gun sight for the canopy is in three bits ( the glass part) and I white glued that, but hte actual crack is still very much visible.
It's fixable, but looks like a jigsaw puzzle.

I'll get a photo of her at some stage and show her off along with the Irish Air Corps Fouga.

Liam

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shrikes

Member since
November 2003
From: Manila, Philippines

Posted by shrikes on Saturday, August 14, 2004 8:48 PM

It is quiet in here. Vewwy vewwy quwiet. Big Smile [:D]

Good to hear that you fixed some of the damage, Liam!

As for me, I've finally given my B-17 a coat of paint and stripped off the masking! Here she is:

You can't really see it here, but there are a lot of rough edges because the masking pulled away at some of the paint at its edges... There's a LOT of touch-up work that's yet to be done, not to mention weathering and a good wash...I hope this one turns out alright! Comments and criticism (on the model, not on my photography skills) are very welcome! Big Smile [:D]

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:09 PM

liam good to hear she is back on her legs. and that she going to be in a photo shoot.

shrikes that looks incredible. very nice.

joe

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:33 AM

Shrikes: Yow-zah! That looks really good. Pretty awesome looking bird. Is it Alclad? Must be withthat degree of reflection. Looks good.

It is good to see the F-84 standing up again. It pretty much honours the strength of dicholoromtheane as a liquid glue in that the main damage where to the landing gear and to the canopy/glass areas. There was a slight crack along the sine, but that was easily dealt with.
Everything else remained intact and undisturbed.

By the way, anyone like to recommend a liquid glue type thing? I just priced a new bottle of di-choloro and it's not cheap. This stuff bonds by melteing hte plastic together, but not like superglue.
Just wondering.

Liam

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shrikes

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November 2003
From: Manila, Philippines

Posted by shrikes on Sunday, August 15, 2004 9:46 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by yeehah12001
Shrikes: Yow-zah! That looks really good. Pretty awesome looking bird. Is it Alclad? Must be withthat degree of reflection. Looks good.

Thanks, Liam! Strangly enough, it's still my Tamiya TS-17 Rattlecan. Though, it lacks the realistic metalic sheen of Alclad, it's good enough for me. Actually, I've been trying to find some of this Alclad stuff myself! But none of the shops in Manila seem to stock it! Sad [:(]

QUOTE: Originally posted by yeehah12001
By the way, anyone like to recommend a liquid glue type thing? I just priced a new bottle of di-choloro and it's not cheap. This stuff bonds by melteing hte plastic together, but not like superglue.
Just wondering.

Well, I use Tamiya Extra-Thin Cement. I like it because it's so thin, capilary action will draw it to where it's most needed (i.e. between fuselage seams). It bonds plastic together by melting, so it will fog up canopies if you apply too much. That B-17 is held together by the stuff! Smile [:)]

Oh! Has the Postmaster sent you your 30 Euro yet? Big Smile [:D]

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wibhi2

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March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:16 AM

Liam,
I Just bough a 12 bottle box (2 oz each)of Ambroid Pro Weld - this is really good stuff- for about $2.89 (can't tell you what the conversion to pounds is) each from hobbylinc.

Shrikes:
looking good.

update: nearly have the cockpit done. finished the foil work on the intakes and
exhaust interior. getting ready to button this bird up fuselage wise. Startin' to think about custom decals as I seriously doubt that I will be able to do 1/16" wide pin stripes.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:06 PM

Hey Shrikes...
Nope, no word as of yet, but htey did warn me thsi could take forever. Might be drawing a pension before I hear from them. Big Smile [:D]

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saltydog

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July 2003
From: Lower Alabama

Posted by saltydog on Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:44 PM

shrikes....... Thumbs Up [tup]

Chris

The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris

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saltydog

Member since
July 2003
From: Lower Alabama

Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:58 PM

howdy fellas, i'm startin' my build, i got a tamiya stang in the oven in 1/48 scale. she's OOB with the exception of a True Details resin seat, and possible some AM decals. i'll be postin' the progress soon. is everybody done thats part of this build? it sure is quiet around these parts!! later.

Chris

The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris

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wibhi2

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March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:21 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

is everybody done thats part of this build? it sure is quiet around these parts!! later.

"Not me" said the satisfied alligator.
"Not even close" said the blind man with a .357 magnum

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Bones-coa

Member since
April 2003
From: Savannah, GA USA

Posted by Bones-coa on Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:38 PM

Update on the F-89:

I've had to stop since I misplaced a part for the Back Box cockpit. I've contacted Back Box and, believe it or not, they've got that part...or at least they have the means to reproduce it and send it may way. I'm not expecting it in a short period of time but at least I know I'll get it.

Right now I'm working on an F4F-4 Wildcat. Not NMF, but it is a prop-job. I haven't built a prop aircraft in at least two years. When this is and the F-89 is done, I have a red and NMF MIG-15bis waiting on me.. Big Smile [:D]

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Gerarddm

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March 2004

Posted by Gerarddm on Thursday, September 2, 2004 1:04 AM

Hey, can anyone steer me straight in terms on decals on BMF? I have started to decal my foiled Constellation and despite using both SolvaSet and then MicroSol, my decals still are showing that white cloudy film on the unprinted part of the decal. I thought MicroSol was supposed to make decals look they were painted on. Any gen on what do do? Or is BMF just not conducive to perfect decals? Thanks...

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Thursday, September 2, 2004 10:55 AM

One way to stear clear of that is to trim your decals as close as possible to the graphics.
Like just lightly cut around the graphic before you dip in water, that way, the excess decal
stuff slips away from the graphic before placing it on the plane.

you could also spot future the area that the decal is going to go on.

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gwaihir

Member since
October 2003
From: Everett, WA

Posted by gwaihir on Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:25 PM

Well I have to admit that I have been a pretty poor member of this build. I signed up for it during last school year and am just now really getting into it. Originally I signed up for a p-47n and a p-51d, then mistakenly signed the p-51 up for the mustang ranch (not knowing that it was poor form to double up a build), so I will probably just be calling the p-47 part of this build.

Anyway, I used an aires cockpit and got the fuselage closed and wings and stabilizers put together and cleaned up this weekend (except for the part that holds the gun barrels - I'm trying to locate some perfectly sized hypodermic needles to replace the plastic ones first). I haven't glued the wings/stab. to the fuselage yet and it looks like some pretty good amounts of filler will be needed for that. I don't have any metal finish progress to show yet, but maybe I'll get a cockpit shot up in the next few days.

Hope everyone else's build is going well, Leon

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saltydog

Member since
July 2003
From: Lower Alabama

Posted by saltydog on Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:02 PM

sounds good Leon, it seems that there is just a remenant left in this build, with the frequency, or lack of, posts on this thread. i'm with you friend, i got all the pieces attached to my stang that will enable me to begin sanding and priming fairly soon. i got alot done saturday, which is my main day of modelling most of the time. not much time during the week days, but thats about to change in the near future hopefully. can't wait to view your progress. later.

Chris

The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris

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Bones-coa

Member since
April 2003
From: Savannah, GA USA

Posted by Bones-coa on Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:35 PM

Well, I thought I was about to get my F-89 back together but I lost a part to the Black Box cockpit. I emailed those guys and, within a few weeks, they sent me the part. I opened the package and, wrong part. I've emailed them back so hopefully I'll get the right one soon.

And to think I thought I'd have this thing together way before the deadline.

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gwaihir

Member since
October 2003
From: Everett, WA

Posted by gwaihir on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:12 PM

Posted these elsewhere too, but just to keep the link alive and since I said I would...three progress shots on my p-47n.

Engine:

Cockpit:

Hope all is well with everyone else.
Leon

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saltydog

Member since
July 2003
From: Lower Alabama

Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:24 PM

Leon..........THAT IS ONE SWEET LOOKING OFFICE/ENGINE FRIEND!!!! great craftsmanship bubba!! i love it!! keep up the good work!! i'm right behind ya. later.

Chris

The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris

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fightnjoe

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September 2011

Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:16 AM

leon great work. i love a good cockpit.

joe

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gwaihir

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October 2003
From: Everett, WA

Posted by gwaihir on Monday, October 18, 2004 9:00 AM

Well I FINALLY got a natural metal finish put on my p-47. About 13 times since last updating this thread, I have considered just sitting down at the computer and saying I'm out. Let me just say thank god for mr. surfacer because I needed tons of it, but (and I never thought I would say this) after seeing the nice shiny metal finish I think I caught my second wind and may finish this thing after all. Might post some pictures if I can pull myself away from actually working on it for enough time :-)

Leon

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