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100th Anniversary of WWI GB

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, September 5, 2014 9:03 AM

Blue...Yes even at 1/48 it's tiny. Can't imagine doing one in 1/72.Geeked Great progress on your model. Love the AB effect.

Wnut... Thanks. Holly is a sweetie, just a big playful puppy even though she just turned 2.

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, September 5, 2014 7:29 AM

PJ, Nice work.  And how can anyone stay mad at a face like that.

Looking good Blue.

Marc  

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Posted by Big Blue on Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:03 PM

PJ: It looks like you are off to a great start on that D.VII.  She seems so tiny compared to the 1/32 WWI build that I have been working on!  You've done some nice work with an older kit.

Ok, here is a picture heavy update (TLDR, I have closed up and painted the fuselage, and painted and applied decals to the wings).  Once the fuselage seams were filled and sanded, its painting process ran parallel to that of the wings, so I will describe them together.  I painted (and documented) the wings first, so left out some of the basic pictures for the fuse were there was nothing really new to show.

First step was a coat of primer, using Mr. Finishing Surfacer:

I followed this with a thin and uneven undercoat of color. I used XF-22, RLM Gray (the final color) and random patches of XF-55, Deck Tan (representing the underlying linen) for this step.  I masked some of the internal structure on both the wings and the fuselage, however since I wanted different effects, I did this is slightly different order for the two.  On the fuselage, I wanted the fabric over the ribs to be slightly darker, and on the fuselage, slightly lighter.  Therefore, I masked the wing's spars prior to the undercoat, and the fuselage after it.  I followed the fuselage masking with a second, darker, undercoat made from a mix of XF-22, XF-1 (Flat Black), and XF-64 (Red-Brown).  Here are the results in both cases after removing the tape:

The second picture shows the crossed pencil lines I added behind the cockpit to represent the bracing wires which show through the fabric in one of the pictures included in the kits'  instructions.  Obviously the results after the undercoats here are very contrasty, but they get toned down significantly after the next step, when I applied a very thin (1:3) coat of the final color to tie it all together:

I sprayed a coat of Alclad Aqua Gloss in preparation of decals.  This is as far as I got with the fuselage at this point, but the wings continue on with their iron cross decals:

It looks like a big shift in color and luminance between this picture and the last, and while some of that is due to shooting with a camera phone under changing light, the gloss definitely accentuated the green tones, and darkened things up a bit.  Continuing the process, I reapplied the tape over the wing ribs, and sprayed a thin coat of X-19, Smoke, over them.  Additionally, I sprayed some very dilute XF-1, Flat Back, in a couple of spots where I wanted a stronger effect.

Because the Smoke is so thin (particularly when it has been that diluted), I have trouble judging the effect until I remove the tape and see the contrast versus the untreated areas.  The results, in this case, are probably a little heavier than I intended, but not terribly so.

I still need to add the smaller, stencil type, decals to the wings, and will paint the metal walkways after I have finished clear coating the wings. 

That catches me up.  I damaged a handful of the resin valve rocker arms, so the Oberursal is on hold while I wait for replacements from Taurus.  Lukasz, the owner, has been incredibly helpful to me; his customer service matches the incredibly high quality of his products.  I'm a big fan.

Comments, questions, etc. are always welcome.  I continue to enjoy seeing the updates people are posting in this group build... great stuff.

Blue

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:37 PM

Thanks Rrider. She's a 70 lb. ham that will lick you to death! LOL

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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:33 PM

PJ... That is AWESOME wood look ! Shes a pretty dog too!

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Posted by 65ss on Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:16 PM

Man everyones work is looking great! I'm making progress but it's going pretty slow nothing really worth posting yet.

Dale

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:55 PM

Another update. Since the Fokker has a VERY poor excuse for a cockpit, I decided to add a few things just to make it a bit more realistic using some reference info I have. I scratched out a floor, rear bulkhead and a basic IP that will get a couple of instrument decals. Did the wood graining thing to them and now they have to dry out for a couple of days. Meanwhile I sliced up some thin strips for the fuselage framing.

Nothing fancy but close enough I think

The fabric would have been a doped linen color so I would think it would have looked like a khaki inside. The outside color would not have bled thru since the dope sealed out the cloth.

The framing adds more detail to the pit area.

The rest of the details have to wait for the oil wood tone paint to dry. Still need to scratch out the ammo box for the Spandaus.

And here is the  party responsible that sneaked into my man cave, stood up on my bench and took my Tom's Modelworks pe set! Too cute of a face to be mad at her.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:53 PM

A quick update. Here is the prop done in acrylics and oils. Prop hub painted Alclad steel.

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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:48 PM

Rocker,

  I found a spool of nylon quilting thread at JoAnn fabrics.  it comes in different colors too.  I'll have to look at the spool to get the manufacturer when I get home.

John

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Posted by rocker286 on Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:38 PM

Rigidrider - excellent choice for a replacement build! The D VII was an excellent aeroplane - that stinks about your original build! Did you ever find out where it went to?

falconmod - your Albatross is coming along great! What type of material are you using for rigging?

65ss - I can't wait either! It'll be my first time painting a camo scheme like that - all the other camo schemes I've done have been the straight-angle Luftwaffe types.

Big Blue - I'll definitely throw up some more photos when I get home from work tonight! So far I've glued the struts on and primed the plane!

And as far as paint goes, would anyone out there happen to know what color to use for the underside of a Nieuport 28? Some sources point to a grayish color, others to a more beige type color. I wasn't sure if anyone had cold hard evidence as to what color was used on the bottom surfaces of those planes.

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Posted by Big Blue on Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:32 AM

Glad to see you get started here, Marc.  Your Snipes came out great.

Blue

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:20 AM

OK... got allthat other crap sorted out.

 

I am finally ready to join the fun here.  I went back a bunch of pages to get caught up and there's lots of top notch working being done 'round here.

Here's a link to the WNW birds that I had to start to early to qualify here.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/p/160198/1763147.aspx#1763147

 

With those done the Harry Tate is on the bench and ready tog o.

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 6:59 PM
Something wrong... Can't post properly. When I type out the post all the spacing and formatting is gone an it's all compressed into a single paragraph. Words, image file, links... everything. The buttons at the top to insert images, make links etc are gone. Anyone else having this problem. To see if it happens again this post has 4 parts separated with spaces.

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 6:54 PM
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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 11:24 AM

Thanks Blue... I love the eindecker! Might just try to build one some day, its just that Ive never really had alot of experiance with WWI aircraft.

Doug

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Posted by Big Blue on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 7:54 AM

John: The albie looks great, I can't imagine trying to rig at that small a scale.

Doug: Nice to see you back in the saddle, as it were.  It looks like you've made a great start.  I have a 1/32 D.VII waiting for me when I finish the Eindecker.

Mike: Thanks for the supportive comments, they are always appreciated.

I have made some further progress, and will get pictures posted soon.  Keep up the good work all!

Blue

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 6:37 AM

And let the 1/72 scale rigging begin! Bang Head

Should be a blast!  lol

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 4:56 AM

Thanks... its a nice kit, but I forget that these were not large aircraft and to me its more along the scale of a 72nd scale in comparison.  The instructions are at times a tad confusing, so alot of dryfit and second looks are required, ha,  It wont be highly detailed above and beyond the nice detail already built into the molds, but I think its a good kit.

Doug

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:15 PM

John - very nice work on the Albatros.  WWI birds had some very colorful plumage,  and the Albatros just may have led the pack when it comes to that catagory.

Doug - nice to see ya back in the saddle.  I love the D.VII and will be watching this one closely,  especially since I've yet to build Roden's D.VII (just WnW's and Eduard's so far).  I really like what I see so far on this one! Yes

Mike

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:37 PM

Alright friends... after all the BS with my build disappearing I finally got to start the 1/48 Roden Fokker DRVII.

Man, even in 1/48, its small to the SPAD. (1/28th) But I have another SPAD ordered and it looks like plenty of time to complete, so, Heres the little Fokker...

Not a whole lot done this weekend, but some of the main components...

Doug 

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Posted by falconmod on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:46 AM

Got a little more work done on the Albatros.

painting the green tail feathers and gray body is next.  Surprise

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, September 1, 2014 8:20 PM

Wanted to check in and see what you fellas have been up to, and brother am I impressed!!

Blue, the Eindecker looks better with each update ( that 'pit looks so real I'm tempted to climb in and take 'er for a spin),  and I'm gonna have to try your turnbuckle method too - good stuff!

Rob, it's been a lot of fun watching your progress on the Roland.  That 'pit looks top notch, especially the woodwork.  Thinking I may have to pull mine off the shelf for this GB when the Tripe is done.

Rocker, great stuff with the Nieuport.  Would love to see some close-ups of the 'pit and the engine if you got 'em.

Wayne, excellent work on the base.  Groundwork is not my strongpoint - wish it was, because it adds so much to a model.

Work has been steadily progressing on the Tripe.  The engine is done and the fuselage buttoned up with the lower wing attached.  Should have some pics up either later today or tomorrow.

Mike

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Posted by Rob S. on Monday, September 1, 2014 8:11 AM

I've always been nearsighted...can't see finer detail on the TV from my hobby bench, but, for some reason, never needed correction close up. That Roland 1/32 pit is quite larger than an entire 1/72 fuselage, so, for me the scale is gigantic!!

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Posted by Big Blue on Monday, September 1, 2014 7:56 AM

Dale: I can't answer for the others, but I can tell you my eyes aren't up tot he task anymore either!  I bought a cheap pair of 3x magnifier reading glasses at Walmart... dirt cheap, but they work.  Takes some getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, they make a big difference.

I have 1.25 readers for, you know, reading, so I wind up swapping back and forth as I swing over to the computer to check a reference photo or the like.  I'm sure its pretty humorous to watch me....

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Posted by 65ss on Sunday, August 31, 2014 9:11 PM

Rob that "pit" looks great, I really like the wood grain!

Rocker I can't wait to see that cammo!

Wayne that base sure does set that tank off nicely!

Blue Your "pit" is also looking great!

Now I have a question for all you biplane guys-how can you see to do all that great detail work? I don't think my eyes would be up to the task anymore!

Dale

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Posted by waynec on Friday, August 29, 2014 4:10 PM

Big Blue

I'll give it some thought Wayne, but have a stack of biplanes to work through first!  There is a fine line between a stash, and a wife-distressing pile, and I am trying to stay on the right side of it.

i have a bunch of GBs too so not before the first. i would do something for the GROUND ATTACK GB. if you can still fit both cars in a 2-car garage you're ok. 

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Posted by Big Blue on Friday, August 29, 2014 3:53 PM

I'll give it some thought Wayne, but have a stack of biplanes to work through first!  There is a fine line between a stash, and a wife-distressing pile, and I am trying to stay on the right side of it.

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Posted by waynec on Friday, August 29, 2014 3:41 PM

Big Blue

Looks nice, Wayne.  I have yet to attempt a base for any of my models, but it is on the to-do list.  

I'm willing to bet that your aircraft builds would turn out better than my attempt at armor would!

hey blue i don't think so BUT i would be willing to do an airplane OR helicopter if you do a tank. this sounds like it could be an interesting albeit small GB in the future.

how do we decide? i have a few helos including a couple of 1/35 BLACKHAWKs and a number of 1/72 4 engine aircraft. the 1/32 BF-110 might be a bit much.

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Posted by Big Blue on Friday, August 29, 2014 2:28 PM

Looks nice, Wayne.  I have yet to attempt a base for any of my models, but it is on the to-do list.  

I'm willing to bet that your aircraft builds would turn out better than my attempt at armor would!

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