100th Anniversary of WWI GB

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Bish

I am not all that keen on stretched sprue. I used to use it for antennas. But I find it sags after a while and getting the right thickness is not always easy. I prefer either fishing line or E-Z line. I may well use the latter for my build here.

This is the kit I have.

Wait just a minute!!!  that's the kit I have!   Lol

John

John, ye, I think we spoke about that earlier in the thread. Either that, or there is 3 of us doing it. But its so long ago, I forget now. Will have to go back and check.

Wow folks, thanks for all the helpful suggestions! Rigging up a Nieuport doesn't seem so daunting now! Rudratt, you are correct! I am going to build Eddie's 28'. When I picked up the kit I was really hoping it would have his markings, and what do ya know? They're the only option to use!

EZ line is what I use as well.  I drill the holes before painting, and before the wings are attached to the fuselage.  In the last 1/72 bipe build (pictured below), I also tried a similar product from Uschi.  Just below the main wing between the inner struts is some of their fine rigging (0.02mm).  They also carry standard (0,03mm) and superfine (0.01mm).   I find their product is actually round in profile compared to EZ line.

My method is to drill location holes, but not completely through the plastic/resin parts.  They are merely a pocket to hold a drop of superglue,and that should dry relatively even with the surrounding surface.  

The rigging wire is cut one segment at a time, and it's length is shorter than what is required, by a few millimeters.  Once one end is firmly set,  the other is stretched into position with tweezers, holding it there for  a minute or so while the glue sets.  

As long as you are careful in not dropping glue where it's not required, there is no clean up afterwards.

regards,

Jack

Bish

I am not all that keen on stretched sprue. I used to use it for antennas. But I find it sags after a while and getting the right thickness is not always easy. I prefer either fishing line or E-Z line. I may well use the latter for my build here.

This is the kit I have.

John

I just pull it tight until I think its thin enough. I used it on the 0/400 I built last year and I use it on most of my aircraft antenna's. For antenna's, I drill a hole through the mast and a hole in the tail. I pass it through the mast and then use CA to secure it to the tail. Once dry I pull it as tight as I dare and then glue it in place, I just have to hold it tight for a minute or so until the glue is set and then trim it. I will basically do the same for the rigging.

Cool - that's basically the same kit I'm doing for this Group Build, just a different boxing.  How do you get your E-Z Line thin enough to look good in 1/72?  I've used it on and off for bits of rigging in 1/32 and it certainly lives up to it's name.

I am not all that keen on stretched sprue. I used to use it for antennas. But I find it sags after a while and getting the right thickness is not always easy. I prefer either fishing line or E-Z line. I may well use the latter for my build here.

This is the kit I have.

Yes, indeed.  I think it might even have been the stars on the top of this Jenny.

As for other methods, I guess there's always stretched sprue but I'm too ham-fisted to able to get consistent line thicknesses.  I'm sold on the fishing line method.

What Eduard kit are you working on?

I was thinking a drop of CA but wasn't sure if it was that obvious. The Eduard kit I am building has one piece wings, and I was thinking something like that would be the best way. In fact, I can't imagine there is any other way to do it.

Sounds like you learnt the lesson the hard way with the decals.

Hi Bish - I use individual segments for each line, cut comfortably oversize.  On one end I put a knot - usually two to three ties to get a big enough "bunch" of line to act as a "bumper".  I then pull the line thru the hole I drilled thru the wing (usually passing thru the lower wing from the underside) until my "bumper" gets caught.  A drop of CA at the knot secures the line on that end.  I then pass the line thru the next hole (usually in the upper wing), pull it thru the wing.  I then hold tension on it and hit it with a drop of CA, usually on the top of the wing.  That completes both ends of one wire.  Then you repeat for the next wire, and so on...and then you drink coffee!  AFTER doing the wiring...

The next day I'll come back and carefully slice off the exposed wire nubs, sand if necessary, and do touch up painting.  One thing I learned the hard way - do any decals that are on or near the rigging holes AFTER the wiring is done and sanded smooth.  Ask me how I know this...

Chuck, do you do the whole rigging with one piece of thread, or individual thread for each strand. If the latter, how do you secure the other end.

Rocker - for 1/72 bipes, I've had good success drilling holes thru the wings, passing a piece of nylon monofiliment knotted on one side (i.e.  - fishing line) thru the holes until the knot stops (usually on the underside of the lower wing), and then gluing both ends.  You'll need to then carefully trim the exposed portion of the thread and touch up the paint, but remember these holes are tiny do the touch up isn't too bad.  Here's an example on a Jenny:

rocker, are the wing split between top and bottom halves or all in one piece. If the latter, I would like the answer to that one. If the former, when I did the Airfix 0/400, I painted the inside of the wings i.e. the bottom of the top win and top of the bottom wing. Then I fitted these and rigged it, then added the outer wing surfaces and then painted those.

A whole Week!  egad, the excitement is almost too much 

Big Blue

one week to go....

I should probably ask this now before the GB kicks off......whats the best way to put rigging onto a 1/72 biplane? ? I have a few ideas floating around in my brain but if anyone has any suggestions I'm totally open to hearing them!

one week to go....

Absolutely.  That helps a bunch! =]  It was pretty much what I thought I was reading, but it helps to hear confirmation from someone that's already confronted the problem. Many thanks.

bvallot

sheptr, I've read this a few times now.  I have the Eduard Sopwith Camel at 1:48 for this GB.  What I read was that you swap the back struts with the front struts.  Which struts are they specifically speaking about?  I have looked into my kit already to brainstorm what I'll need to change or work on more carefully, but I haven't dry fitted anything yet.

It's the interplane wing struts (the struts under the roundels). Basically, Eduard reversed the numbering on them in the instructions, and labeled the front struts as the rear struts, and vice versa. They are two different lengths, so if they are reversed the upper wing won't fit on the lower wing.  

The struts themselves are pieces B9 and B19, but I don't remember which is which. Regardless of what the instructions say, the shorter ones go in the front, and the longer ones go in the back.

I also highly, highly recommend a biplane jig. It is nearly impossible to line up the 8 free-standing struts and get the top wing on straight without it.  

Hope that helps!

sheptr

I'm chomping at the bit to get started.  Building an Eduard Camel in the meantime.  As long as you swap the struts [...]

sheptr, I've read this a few times now.  I have the Eduard Sopwith Camel at 1:48 for this GB.  What I read was that you swap the back struts with the front struts.  Which struts are they specifically speaking about?  I have looked into my kit already to brainstorm what I'll need to change or work on more carefully, but I haven't dry fitted anything yet.

I'm chomping at the bit to get started.  Building an Eduard Camel in the meantime.  As long as you swap the struts, its a fairly easy build.  First time I've ever done any true rib shading, as well.

Plasticjunkie, nice! The first biplane I ever built was Eduard's Nieuport 17 and it was fantastic. The N16 has the same plastic in the box. It falls together for sure, and there is just enough rigging to make it interesting.

Can't wait to see what you do with it!

Alan,  glad you were able to find the Macchi kit.  The list has been updated.

rocker,  great shot of the Nieuport.  Those look like Rickenbacker's colors.  Is that the scheme you're going for?

I managed to find a Macchi M.5 so put me down for that build.  It seems to be a fairly simple kit with a nice resin engine. The hard part is going to be rigging this thing.  Hopefully I can start it in a week or two.  I may also do a 1:48 Sopwith Camel. 

I did indeed! They'll come in handy as good reference photos!

F'n A!!  How 'bout that.  =D   Hope you took lots of pictures.  

I'm actually pretty excited too.  I've always wanted to do a WW1 bird but was never sure I was ready for it.  Plus, I'm trying to get through this Pacific theater of aircraft series first...but I figure one or two here and there can't hurt. =]

Hell!! I might even start practicing my wood painting early that way when I start I can hit the ground running.  =D

plasticjunkie, the list has been updated.  Looking forward to the Nieuport. 

Copy that, Rob.  We're at 32 and counting.  I'm so pumped for this GB that I can't seem to wrap my head around any other kits from the stash.

Wow, that roster`s growing quite quickly, eh guys? This is going to be epic!!

GS

Please put me down for an Eduard 1/48 Nieuport 16. The last Eduard WWI plane I built was a joy so this one will hopefully be as good.