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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:21 AM

Rob S.

I got some progress tonight. I managed to get the 'cheeks' installed on the sides and front of the fuselage, IP for the rear, rear landing gear panel...THIS did not go that well. It was not a good fit and I'm gonna have to fill a large gap. I also spent a bunch of time sealing the belly and sanding/sealing the gap from the difficulty I had closing the fuselage halves. Anyway, a few pics as there's not much to see:

Note the huge gap at the rear landing gear bay cover.....Angry

I'm on step 41 of 98, so, almost halfway there AND I haven't really painted much yet Huh?

NINETY-EIGHT STEPS?!???!??!  Toast

Looking good though, love those big Soviet choppers.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:30 AM

VanceCrozier
I'm also going with the "Allied-Italian" markings,

That would be the co-belligerent forces. Most of the the Italians did not like the fact that they were allied with the Germans. Many had no problem fighting against them, while still not officially being an ally of the allies. See what I did there?

Your new guns look far better than the tiny specks of plastic the kit includes. My glue drop is often bigger than those specks.

Nice work and totally plausible.

Steve

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:26 AM

modelcrazy

VanceCrozier
I'm also going with the "Allied-Italian" markings,

That would be the co-belligerent forces. Most of the the Italians did not like the fact that they were allied with the Germans. Many had no problem fighting against them, while still not officially being an ally of the allies. See what I did there?

Your new guns look far better than the tiny specks of plastic the kit includes. My glue drop is often bigger than those specks.

Nice work and totally plausible.

YES!! co-belligerent, that's what I wanted to type. (I was posting this before my morning coffee had kicked in!)

Thanks!

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Posted by Rob S. on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:19 PM

HA!! Yup, she's got a gagillion steps for sure. She one big ugly MF!! Stick out tongue

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:21 PM

So you sayin its a BUMF instead of a BUFF?

Steve

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Posted by Rob S. on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:51 PM

Oh, yeah, she's defiantly the former, LOL!! Not gonna get any work in tonight. I've been up since 4:20, into work for 5 and got in this evening at 6:30...bit bagged and trying not to go to bed too early, but, it's gonna be hard...Sleep

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:21 AM

Tamiya light gray primer on the Reggiane…

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Need to let that sit before I start hitting it with final colours, probably give it a little buffing beforehand as well.

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Posted by Rob S. on Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:01 PM

Oh, yes, a good buffing. I find Tamiya gets a bit powdery as well...I rub down my whole plane before the next coat...good call

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:06 PM

Are you going to do do some camo or just green?

Steve

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Posted by Rob S. on Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:00 PM

So, I made it to step 44 tonite. Not much to photograph, just installed the front IP, sealed some gaps, put on a few greeblies and bonded the wings together.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 23, 2015 12:33 PM

modelcrazy

Are you going to do do some camo or just green?

Question for me? I'm doing the 2nd marking option:

...which is overall green, but the green has faded a great deal, and then the original markings have been overpainted with a fresh coat of green prior to the new markings going on. It's an interesting look.

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, January 23, 2015 12:35 PM

With the wings on (not glued yet, later) she takes on that sinister 'Hind' shape that makes me all warm inside!!! Devil

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 23, 2015 4:25 PM

Rob S.

With the wings on (not glued yet, later) she takes on that sinister 'Hind' shape that makes me all warm inside!!! Devil

Glad to see the pilot in there, this is actually a smaller machine that I had thought?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 23, 2015 4:35 PM

I'll bet the Star Wars guys patterned the Low Altitude Assault Troop Carrier after that Hind beastie.

Steve

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Posted by Nomad53 on Friday, January 23, 2015 5:46 PM

Hey all I'm back,

Trying to get back into the swing of things. Got some painting done. I have some touch-ups to do.

Doug

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, January 23, 2015 10:28 PM

modelcrazy

I'll bet the Star Wars guys patterned the Low Altitude Assault Troop Carrier after that Hind beastie.

You know, I never thought of that...they twin 'bubble' cockpits and downturned wings are VERY 'Hind Like'...thanks for that!!

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, January 24, 2015 3:07 PM

Ok, so, I'm starting to really struggle with this Hind. IF you wanted to seal up all the hatches and doors, you'd certainly go out of your mind. Very few of them actually fit. I'm trying to fit all hatches in place then tack them in place with a dot of white glue just to hold them in place for painting. WELL, that ain't happening. Nothing fits. Not having a good time.....Bang Head

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, January 24, 2015 7:34 PM

Spent all afternoon taming these hatches..almost there and then installed the flimsiest landing gear i think ive ever worked with....

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:28 PM

Here's what I've been contending with. Now, keep in mind, the hatches will ALL be posed open. I needed to pin them temporarily closed for the big paint job. Like I said earlier, if you wanted to pose them all closed, it would be a serious fight. Fortunately, they'll be removed after painting, then CA'd into place at the hinges. Still, it was not a fun afternoon mucking with these PIA parts.

Even the doors don't meet in the centre. The engine cowling leaves a massive gap:

Other side, just a bad:

Gaps, gaps and more gaps:

And on top, the cowlings didn't meet in the middle:

All clear parts masked and ready for paint:

Chaff dispensers and rear skid:

Landing gear was fun. All components rely only on cement to fix in place. No real guide pins to speak of. Oh, and one of the Y arms was broken on the sprue: one if the bars was gone!! I had to scratch build a rod to match the other side:

I really don't feel like I got much done today, but, I think I'm close to principle painting after a bit of filling and sanding, tomorrow...finally!!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:24 PM

Eee gad those are serious gaps! I wonder if Revellogram does that on purpose so that all their engineering and detail doesn't go to waste.

Steve

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Posted by Rob S. on Sunday, January 25, 2015 5:56 AM

Yup..u are forced to pose the helo parked and all opened up..and that's fine. I suppose if u skipped ALL the engine componentry..the panels would fit better. Now, as a nitpick, why would the crew be sitting in full flight position with every hatch and door open? I think I'm being too critical Stick out tongue

Oh..and Steve..this is a blue box Revell Germany kit..and..I read somewhere that this was a Zvezda reboxing. That would explain some of my grief! I've done a few Zvezdas and was not overly impressed.

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Posted by Nomad53 on Sunday, January 25, 2015 6:56 AM

Wow Rob,

Good luck with those gaps. I know you will get it figured out. Still looking great as usual. Keep up the good work.

Doug

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, January 25, 2015 4:19 PM

Rob S.
Now, as a nitpick, why would the crew be sitting in full flight position with every hatch and door open? I think

Actually, I thought about that as well. I guess the guys are going through the mission in there head while the mechanics are working on it????

Steve

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Posted by Rob S. on Sunday, January 25, 2015 6:20 PM

Yup...let's go with that Steve!!! Anyway, all the nitpicking aside, I got quite the bit of progress on the Hind today. Principle painting's done and even some minor drybrushing. I am not going to weather this Hind much. My ref photo:

The paint job is solid and the cam is very clearly hard edged. Very little if any indication of any type of wear, AND, I imagine if the Cz Rep is sending their Hind to an international military meet, the paintjob would be near perfect, so, I'm dispensing with my normal weathering regime.

Anyway, now that I've sullied my modelling skills by showing a live photo of the subject, I'll get to my update.

Here's my forgetting to take photos, so, here's a shot of the entire airframe painted light grey and the start of masking for the upcoming blue/grey. I used a combo of silly putty and tape:

Blue applied. Too dark, but, too late to do anything about it Embarrassed:

And, now the OD green:

ALL three colours applied (I wonder if any shrewd looker will notice that the tail vert stabilizer changed colours Oops:

Here's the funky wavy demarcation line between the bottom of the fuselage and the tri-colour cam job, also, added the dark grey zone coming back from the massive exhaust nozzles:

Wings dry fitted. Still not going to glue them on until I clear coat and pin wash the whole thing:

That's it for now, sorry for the long, drawn out post!!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:14 PM

That look fantastic Rob! Yes

Most of the pics I've seen of Hinds don't show a whole lot of weathering. Mostly exhaust staining.

Steve

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Posted by flyerduke on Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:21 PM

Rob, that Hind looks sweet!

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Posted by Rob S. on Monday, January 26, 2015 5:39 AM

Thanks guys..it's getting' there. Any advise, Steve, on drooping blades on the main prop? I remember guys talking on another thread on ways to do it but it has been too long ago to remember Embarrassed

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, January 26, 2015 6:17 AM

Remember that the blades will bend more at the roots because of the weight causing a greater bending moment than nearer the tips where the weight is less.

I simply form the blades between my fingers, one at a time to a line on paper so they are all the same.

Here is my 1/72 MiL i did some time ago .Look at where the blades bend the most.

Theuns

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, January 26, 2015 7:26 AM

Rob S.

Bow Down  LOVE that camo Rob!!!

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, January 26, 2015 7:29 AM

Ahhhhhh - walking into work like THIS:

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Means I must've had fun this weekend.

My interpretation of faded Italian Olive Green for the topside colour…

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After I had applied that & checked it under my bench likes, it looked too gray, so I added a few drops of Tamiya GREEN, went back & hit it in a bunch of random spots. Subtle, but you can see some variations in person.

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Annnnd then the over-painting, which I did do as an over-paint. Now wondering if I probably should've reversed that, then masked off the darker areas. May have been easier. Still not happy with the tail, do I do some touch-ups, or blame it on hurried groundcrew?

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After I had the over-painting applied, it looked to be too much of a contrast to me, so I loaded up the faded colour & did some over-spraying to blend things a little bit.

Underside - note the wraparound on the leading edges...
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