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Second Annual USAF Vietnam Group Build

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:12 PM

Thanks TAD. I was so pissed that I forgot to photograph the damaged nose guns but just thought about repairing the damage. This is the second model I drop this year. The other one was a 1/35 Eduard Hetzer that I was building for the Tank Hunter GB and dropped it loosening the front gears and transmission inside the tank. I had to carefully cut the front bottom armor plate to glue the parts then re glue the armor plate to the hull.

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 6:58 PM

Wow, PJ, that had to suck majorly!!  Glad you were able to save it; can't even tell which barrel is the replacement!

TAD

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 6:46 PM

Hey Mike,

Looks like you are really coming along!!  Big difference!Yes

Dave

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:09 PM

Thanks MC. I just hope the dropping thing is an isolated case.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 9:43 AM

Good save PJ.

Steve

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:36 PM

mailwalker

Just an update to show that I am still at it.

Here is the forward control panel. Much better I think than before. Still some to do on it. My references showed some of the dials to have a black mounting "box?", some were just a black ring around the dial. Thats what I am trying to portray.

Here is the cockpit mocked up still working on it also, But it is also better than my first attempt IMO.

Here is the ammo bay. I expect it to really pop once it gets some weathering done.

Slowly but surely I will get there, guys! Thanks for all the tips and comments.

Mike

Sorry about that.  I accidently hit the post button before I wrote anything!  Oops 

Hey Mike, that is looking really nice!  Great job!  Yes  Yes  I'd say your honing your skills very well!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:33 PM

mailwalker

Just an update to show that I am still at it.

Here is the forward control panel. Much better I think than before. Still some to do on it. My references showed some of the dials to have a black mounting "box?", some were just a black ring around the dial. Thats what I am trying to portray.

Here is the cockpit mocked up still working on it also, But it is also better than my first attempt IMO.

Here is the ammo bay. I expect it to really pop once it gets some weathering done.

Slowly but surely I will get there, guys! Thanks for all the tips and comments.

Mike

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Posted by mailwalker on Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:21 PM

Just an update to show that I am still at it.

Here is the forward control panel. Much better I think than before. Still some to do on it. My references showed some of the dials to have a black mounting "box?", some were just a black ring around the dial. Thats what I am trying to portray.

Here is the cockpit mocked up still working on it also, But it is also better than my first attempt IMO.

Here is the ammo bay. I expect it to really pop once it gets some weathering done.

Slowly but surely I will get there, guys! Thanks for all the tips and comments.

Mike

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:39 AM

Hi Everyone,

Today's date is an important one.  It was on this date, November 1, 1955, that the American Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) for South Vietnam was created.  Here is an excerpt from the online Wikipedia:

"The MAAG was reorganized from covering all of Indochina into MAAGs for each of the countries (Cambodia, Laos, South Vietnam). General Samuel Tankersley Williams was the chief of the newly created MAAG.[37] Due to the creation of the MAAG for Vietnam on this date, in 1998 after a high level review by the Department of Defense (DoD) and through the efforts of Richard B. Fitzgibbon's family, November 1, 1955 became the earliest qualifying date for inclusion of American combat deaths on the wall of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial."

So this date is considered by the United States government to be the date that the Vietnam War began.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 31, 2014 8:04 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I made a purchase tonight and I thought I would share since it is a Vietnam era model.  It is the new Italeri 1/32 F-104 A/C Starfighter.  Completely new tooling and lots of detail.

You can read the review here:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/it/kit_it_2504.shtml

Wow, what a kit! Let's see...you should be about 94 when you get around to it... Big Smile.  Looks like fun though! Congratulations!

Russ

I would guess closer to 104!  Big Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 31, 2014 8:02 PM

plasticjunkie

Ken

That looks like a fantastic model just as an OOB build. Too bad some panels were not left off to expose part of the engine. That cockpit looks very detailed!

I agree with you on the detail.  I don't think I will need to buy any aftermarket parts for this one!

Ken

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Posted by mailwalker on Friday, October 31, 2014 6:02 PM

Tal Afar Dave

Hey Mailwalker,

Russ is right; we are all on this hobby journey and all of us still have room to grow and learn new techniques.  As far as dry brushing goes it's okay to pre-treat your bristles with a little thinner, but you want to make sure your brush is almost completely dry.

After I paint the base coat, I let it dry for a good while.  Then I get my wide, soft brush and dip it in the paint enough to cover the bristle tips.  Then I lightly drag it across a textured paper towel or napkin to remove most of the paint.  Once most of the paint is gone, the remaining paint will form a more defined pattern and only attach to the very highest point of your model. (Like the knobs, switches, and buttons on your side panels).  Once I've got the paint down to that small amount, I transfer it to the model itself.  

Looking at your pictures, it looks like you are getting the technique, but maybe you're applying a little too much pressure on the brush and the bristles are doing into the work deeper than you wanted.  Try using a lighter touch and work in one direction at first- left to right, or up and down.  It takes a little practice, but you'll get there.

I also like to find good pictures of what I'm trying to replicate and will have a picture of the actual item from a book, or pulled up from my internet file on my computer to capture the actual 'look' of the item.

You can also use 'washes' to give those small details more 'pop' and visibility and to add shadows in areas where they'd appear on the actual item.  And maybe one of the guys on here can explain 'color modulation' techniques......(Still struggling with that one myself.!!)....like I said, always something we can learn!!!Big Smile

Good luck with your Super Sabre!


TAD

Thanks,  Tal Afar for the tips. Being as I am on the learning curve, I have since repainted the base coat on everything and have begun repainting the details. It's looking much better. Hopefully I'll get enough done soon to post some progress pics. Great tips and encouragement, I appreciate it. Thanks again!

It doesn't matter that you ARE the best, but that you DID your best!

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 31, 2014 5:02 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I made a purchase tonight and I thought I would share since it is a Vietnam era model.  It is the new Italeri 1/32 F-104 A/C Starfighter.  Completely new tooling and lots of detail.

You can read the review here:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/it/kit_it_2504.shtml

Wow, what a kit! Let's see...you should be about 94 when you get around to it... Big Smile.  Looks like fun though! Congratulations!

Russ

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, October 31, 2014 6:44 AM

Ken

That looks like a fantastic model just as an OOB build. Too bad some panels were not left off to expose part of the engine. That cockpit looks very detailed!

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Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:10 PM

Hi Everyone,

I made a purchase tonight and I thought I would share since it is a Vietnam era model.  It is the new Italeri 1/32 F-104 A/C Starfighter.  Completely new tooling and lots of detail.

You can read the review here:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/it/kit_it_2504.shtml

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:23 AM

Thanks gents!

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:46 PM

Looking really good there, PJ.  It's all coming together nicely!!

TAD

2022 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:58 PM

plasticjunkie

Striker

It would be cool if you do find that picture.

Did some work on my Invader. Cleaned up the big props and assembled and cleaned up all the weapons.

Everything was fitting great until I got to the top fuselage aft panel that created a step on one side.

Tenaxed a thin piece of plastic card and when dry I sanded and blended the thin strip. Problem solved.

The inside rear nacelle wall has a nasty seam.

Matched the shape to my scribing template and made a thin plastic piece to cover the aft bulk head

 

No more seam.

Got the wings together and attached to the fuselage. Now to let them cure propped up with the correct dihedral.

Nice work Plasticjunkie!!  Yes  Yes  And thank you for taking the time to show how you fixed those problems.  It is beginning to look like a Counter Invader.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:55 PM

Striker8241

Well no, not the same markings. I don't recall those actually, although I think I have a picture somewhere. Was interesting to watch the crew unfold and drop out of the various compartment hatches.

Russ

I agree with Plasticjunkie.  If you can find that picture I would really like to see it too!

I have some pictures of the B-26K on display at the USAF National Museum.  I will try to post those tomorrow.

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:09 AM

Well no, not the same markings. I don't recall those actually, although I think I have a picture somewhere. Was interesting to watch the crew unfold and drop out of the various compartment hatches.

Russ

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:47 AM

Thanks Striker. Funny if the markings I'm using are the same as in the one you saw land at Takhli even though mine was based at Nakhon Phanom. Tail number was TA 646 which also served in The Congo in 1967.

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:06 PM

Hey Mailwalker,

Russ is right; we are all on this hobby journey and all of us still have room to grow and learn new techniques.  As far as dry brushing goes it's okay to pre-treat your bristles with a little thinner, but you want to make sure your brush is almost completely dry.

After I paint the base coat, I let it dry for a good while.  Then I get my wide, soft brush and dip it in the paint enough to cover the bristle tips.  Then I lightly drag it across a textured paper towel or napkin to remove most of the paint.  Once most of the paint is gone, the remaining paint will form a more defined pattern and only attach to the very highest point of your model. (Like the knobs, switches, and buttons on your side panels).  Once I've got the paint down to that small amount, I transfer it to the model itself.  

Looking at your pictures, it looks like you are getting the technique, but maybe you're applying a little too much pressure on the brush and the bristles are doing into the work deeper than you wanted.  Try using a lighter touch and work in one direction at first- left to right, or up and down.  It takes a little practice, but you'll get there.

I also like to find good pictures of what I'm trying to replicate and will have a picture of the actual item from a book, or pulled up from my internet file on my computer to capture the actual 'look' of the item.

You can also use 'washes' to give those small details more 'pop' and visibility and to add shadows in areas where they'd appear on the actual item.  And maybe one of the guys on here can explain 'color modulation' techniques......(Still struggling with that one myself.!!)....like I said, always something we can learn!!!Big Smile

Good luck with your Super Sabre!


TAD

2022 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

 ]

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:16 PM

modelcrazy

Thanks Russ,

I need to get Photoshop.

You can do the same things with MS Paint that comes with windows. Click on Start -->All Programs --> Accessories and select Paint. You can also download a free trial copy of Snag-It, which has some editing tools in addition to capturing images.

Photoshop is pretty expensive. However, if you want Photoshop, try to find a copy of Photoshop 7 on eBay. It's an earlier version that has all you need for photo enhancement and more, plus it has its own built in browser - unlike the crappy add on browser that comes with later versions.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:05 PM

plasticjunkie

Got the office done. Did some shading and washes then made some belts from wine foil and secured them to the seats with Future. I then shot everything with Alclad clear flat.

Most of the interior details will be very hard to see once the fuselage is closed and the canopy is attached.

Very nice wiork, Plasticjunkie! I like the way the console turned out. BTW, I didn't realize there was a K model of the B-26. Checked it out online and learned these were the ones used in Vietnam. I saw one land at Takhli AB, Thailand back in 69.

Keep up the good work!

Russ

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:59 AM

Thanks Russ,

I need to get Photoshop.

Steve

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:16 AM

mailwalker

Well after several family emergencies keeping me busy, I finally have gotten a chance to do something.

Keep in mind I am no expert, just wanting to learn and get better.

I have some cleanup to do on the olive drab and of course more paint to add, and I have got the fuel

tanks and armament glued up. Not satisfied with the smudginess of the controls. Pointers?

Here is my first attempt at dry brushing, not real satisfied. Any tips? I always dip my brush in thinner before painting to make it easier to clean, is this a mistake?

Nice job, Mailwalker!  I know what you mean; I've yet to get there myself.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:41 AM

modelcrazy

I'm ready for decals, weathering and finishing touches.

Hi, MC,

I touched up your image a bit in Photoshop to bring out the detail on your exhaust. Very nicely done! You've done a great job on this build!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:06 AM

plasticjunkie

Great job Steve, they both look fantastic. Excellent job Dude! BeerBeer

Got the halves together and discovered some low spots that required some filling and sanding. The halves went together fine and the join line disappeared but those low spots created a problem.

I'm debating leaving the bomb bay open or not. The 609th used the early M 31 Cluster Bombs so I have to scratch build two of them so it depends on how they come out.  I have some good reference pictures and diagrams showing these early CBU type loads.

http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34145&start=555

Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you can see them ready to be delivered as care packages to Charlie!

http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34145&start=270

Looks like you are doing a great job handling those defects!  Yes  Yes  And thank you for the links, I have book marked them for future reference!

Ken

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