2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

Thanks Jack.  The MM 02 I used to re-spray looks a lot like the swatch you posted.  Now the 66 that I used from Vallejo is a good bit darker than the swatch.  I don't know, maybe I'm just splitting hairs here.  Both paints went on nice.  I just like using acrylics.

Craig

jgeratic

RLM 02 is described as a grey with some green in it.  This same colour was also used on the exterior as the lighter shade for the two tone camouflage of 1940, so going straight grey won't be correct either.  

I found this colour swatch, which I think is fairly accurate:

I haven't come across any negative reviews for Vallejo's shade, though one modeller did make the comment that:

t's the wierdest colour; looks grey when viewed next to green, green next to gray and brown in the bottle.

I've also read  there was more than one company producing paints for the Luftwaffe, so there would be some variance.   It's possible the bottle of Vallejo you have is a victim of the above occurrence, in that the colour is a bit off?   You can also try taking the eyedropper off the top so you an get a stir stick in there just in case shaking wasn't enough.

regards,

Jack

Allen109

mustang1989, SchattenSpartan : I was looking at the kit/builder roster, noticed only one of my entries is listed.

 I plan on submitting two for the group build- 1/32 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6 and the 1/72 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6.

RLM 02 is described as a grey with some green in it.  This same colour was also used on the exterior as the lighter shade for the two tone camouflage of 1940, so going straight grey won't be correct either.  

I found this colour swatch, which I think is fairly accurate:

I haven't come across any negative reviews for Vallejo's shade, though one modeller did make the comment that:

t's the wierdest colour; looks grey when viewed next to green, green next to gray and brown in the bottle.

I've also read  there was more than one company producing paints for the Luftwaffe, so there would be some variance.   It's possible the bottle of Vallejo you have is a victim of the above occurrence, in that the colour is a bit off?   You can also try taking the eyedropper off the top so you an get a stir stick in there just in case shaking wasn't enough.

regards,

Jack

OK guys.  I re-shot the cockpit parts with Testors MM RLM 02 enamel.  It's definitely a touch lighter.  It sprayed well, but I really hate the smell of enamels.  I used the flash on the bottom photo.

Craig

mustang1989, SchattenSpartan : I was looking at the kit/builder roster, noticed only one of my entries is listed.

 I plan on submitting two for the group build- 1/32 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6 and the 1/72 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6.

It could be my poor photo, but the Testors MM RLM 02 (2071) that I have does look a shade lighter.  Also, the Testor paint doesn't have as much of that OD tint to it.  I'd hate to repaint.  I really like the way the Vallejo goes on.

modelcrazy

Flyerduke,

It looks a little dark for RLM 02, but I'm not an expert like most of the guys on this build.

Craig, having seen Steve's post, he is right. 02 is a light grey colour. If you have Tamiya paints, XF-22 is not a bad match.

Flyerduke,

It looks a little dark for RLM 02, but I'm not an expert like most of the guys on this build.

Now ya got me thinking.

mustang1989

Man that would be cool to open that panel. I opened one up on a build I did about 9 years ago and scratch built some radios and ran elevator/ rudder control cables so you could see them through the opening.

While not the best build in the world, it did add to the detail of the finished model. Just don't forget the backing plate with the twist lock holes for the panel.

Man that would be cool to open that panel. I opened one up on a build I did about 9 years ago and scratch built some radios and ran elevator/ rudder control cables so you could see them through the opening.

While not the best build in the world, it did add to the detail of the finished model. Just don't forget the backing plate with the twist lock holes for the panel.

Thanks for the input Jack and Bish.  I'm gonna leave out the radio gear.  May come in handy for another build.

I started shootin' some paint this afternoon.  I'm pretty much going by what the instructions call for.  If there is an obvious error in my choice of paint color, I hope someone would point it out.

I painted the cockpit floor RLM 66 per instruction.  Also, I shot some RLM 02.  Looks like a majority of the cockpit will be RLM 02.  The paint I'm using for RLM 02 is Vallejo model air (FS34201).  It has kind of an olive drab tint to it.  Is that right?  I really like the way the Vallejo MA paint goes on.  Very smooth and clean.  Next is the flat black (Tamiya).

Craig

Nice start Craig, and I will second jack. Unless you are having that panel open, just leave the radio, might come in handy for another build.

Doug, sounds like you have a bit of work to do, but it all adds to the accomplishment. Looking forward to it.

Hi guys, great starts on those that have posted.

Craig -  I wouldn't bother with the radio, unless you plan to have the fuselage access door open, as that is the only way it will be visible.  

regards,

Jack

I got started on my 109 shortly after midnight.  I washed the trees and airbrush dried the parts.  Removed most of the cockpit parts for the first couple steps.  After a few hours of sleep, I started to assemble some of the cockpit parts early this morning.  The parts are loosely assembled (no glue) to check for fit.  May paint some later, but I can't go too far till the PE set I ordered arrives.

I also have a bit of a dilemma.  The radio gear is included, but I don't think it will be very visible.  So I'm not sure I will build it.  The pic shows what I'm talking about.  Thoughts on what I should do?

As always, any advice along the way is appreciated.

Craig

Nice job on the mug design Clemence.  Thanks for that.

Happy New Year everyone.

Steve

Morning Bish... Yeah, I ran across one at a flea market one time and decided to give it a try, and was really impressed with the kit over all. The one glaring fault with the kit is the oil cooler fairings have a brace dead center and it is WAY too wide and needs to be cut out and replaced with about a .020 thou. round piece of plastistruct. Also on these kits, the canopy is a horrible fit and I always wind up inserting a .015 thou. strip of plastistruct around the edges of the pit just to get them to fit properly. I don't see this one being any different. Next the landing gear struts can be described in 3 words...weak, weak, and weak! I have bought some white metal legs but will first try to reinforce the plastic ones with pins and epoxy, several other issues (Minor) arise but are easily dealt with. It sounds like a terrible kit but it really isn't, Its well detailed and actually a good build and fit.

Doug

Thanks guys.

Doug, really looking forward to that Matchbox kit. I have not seen one of their 32nd kits before and they may not be the most accurate company, but I think they are some what underrated. That engine looks nice.

Morning all (early) ! And Happy New Year!!!

Started a little earlier, but all very basic at this point... Bish, Man, I cant WAIT to see that engine! That is going to be so cool!!! Well, lets get going here.

Again, I will kick off GB with one of my good ole Matchbox kits. I have the PE and goodies for it but lets see what we can do with or without. Many times, I change direction in the midst of a build, depending on how its going, I will be starting with the engine, and hope to have it complete by tomorrow night (I think).

I know there are some inaccuracies in these kits and from past builds will try to resolve as many as possible, but most all kits do have them. I still like these old kits and add them to my stash as often as I feel the need if the price is right, Looking forward to being amazed by this large and talented group we have here. I know there will be many breath taking builds to admire!

Take care all!

Doug

Nomad68: Glad to have you on board man! And he busts out the big stuff! Awesome!!

Mike:Looking forward to pictures!

flyerduke:After seeing your build in the Carrier GB, I'm really anticipating what youre going to bring to this GB!

Bish:Man this engine is going to be out of sight! Great start and great detail on this one!

I also got started this morning, here is a small initial update. I started on the bulkhead between cockpit and engine. There are not many parts to this. This is my first all resin kit and I am taking it easy. There are of course no locating tabs so checking placement is important as is checking the instructions. I almost fitted one part in the wrong place and trying to remove resin secured with CA is not pretty.

So this section is now ready for primer, the MG's and ammo belts will be fitted later on.

I also removed the pour stubs from the prop blades and sanded off the base of the prop hub, this will be painted as they are and assembled after wards.

And that's it for now. I have a couple of other kits I want to get some primer on this weekend, so will do these parts at the same time. 

Happy to say I'm underway!  Starting work on the 'pit.  I have the Aires one, but the kit offering looks right up there with it, so I'll use the Aires set as a guide to beefing up the kit office.  Chances are I'll be swiping some of the actual resin and PE parts from it as well. Should have some pics up tomorrow.

It's 34 minutes into the new year here in Arizona.  Time to get to work.  Just waiting for the Eduard  interior PE set for my E-7 to arrive.

I would like to join the build I will be starting a Airfix 1/24 scale 109E, I will paint it like Adolf Garland plane

Looks like I'll take that first post of the year and of the GB kick off. Let's do this!

Ummm............fellas.............I think this one may top the Butcher Bird GB

I took another look at the lineup. It's really gonna be quite impressive.

Can't wait to see that daimler, Bish!

Well Greg, it's actually 3 AM here right now. I got started on my Royal Class and managed to get the cockpit assembled. I'll paint it up tomorrow after I got some sleep and post some pics of that.

I sit waiting with bated breath for the first WIP pic here. Surely it must be midnight somewhere.. ......

.....will it be Bish???

I have my kit out and got the instructions printed off tonight. I will be making a start in the morning when all nice and fresh, which will probably before you have even hit midnight. Can't wait to get at this engine.

Clemens, what else can I say but thanks man! That mug design is awesome!

....and boy is that entry list growing.  Largest GB I've been a part of by far. Can't wait to start cutting some plastic on this one......only 8 1/2 hours for those on the left coast.