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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, May 15, 2015 5:42 AM

jimbot58

I am very saddened by the passing of B.B. King at the age of 89.

R.I.P. B.B.!

It is sad indeed.  Another legend has moved on.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, May 15, 2015 5:41 AM

jimbot58
Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Duke Maddog

Wow, guys, tremendous progress here. I like it.

Steve, that ship is looking great. I think tarps would have been on the guns if she was underway in rough seas to a home port out of a combat zone. I believe the tarps would have remained off if they were patrolling in an area where enemy activity was expected, despite the heavy seas. Hope that helps.

Jim, the Supercobra is probably hauling an ECM pod on the side. That is what that looks like.

Way to go guys! Keep it coming!

The unit I'm building is not actually a Super Cobra, just one of the early units used in SEA. The Super's were twin engine. I had the pod Identified as s SUU-11/A gun pod with yet another 7.62 minigun! More fire power!

I trial fitted the skids tonight, and uh oh! This isn't good!

I was fortunate that I hadn't cemented in the nose piece yet! I cut up some little pieces of a fishing weight, dropped them into the nose, and held them in place with a drop of CA! Much better now! Whew!

I'm glad I averted building a tail sitter! That would have sucked!

Jim

Hi Jim,

Once again thank you for sharing the info you found during your research.  And good save on saving your Cobra from being a tail sitter! 

Ken

A bit more information - I read on another website that those plates on the left are actually to protect the side from the muzzle blast of the 20mm cannon, which could actually rip holes in the skin! Don't know which version is correct, but I think this seems more plausible than covering up wires - Jim

HI Jim,

I agree with you, protection from the muzzle blast seems more accurate.  Thank you for the info!

Ken

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Posted by jimbot58 on Friday, May 15, 2015 2:29 AM

I am very saddened by the passing of B.B. King at the age of 89.

R.I.P. B.B.!

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:32 PM
Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Duke Maddog

Wow, guys, tremendous progress here. I like it.

Steve, that ship is looking great. I think tarps would have been on the guns if she was underway in rough seas to a home port out of a combat zone. I believe the tarps would have remained off if they were patrolling in an area where enemy activity was expected, despite the heavy seas. Hope that helps.

Jim, the Supercobra is probably hauling an ECM pod on the side. That is what that looks like.

Way to go guys! Keep it coming!

The unit I'm building is not actually a Super Cobra, just one of the early units used in SEA. The Super's were twin engine. I had the pod Identified as s SUU-11/A gun pod with yet another 7.62 minigun! More fire power!

I trial fitted the skids tonight, and uh oh! This isn't good!

I was fortunate that I hadn't cemented in the nose piece yet! I cut up some little pieces of a fishing weight, dropped them into the nose, and held them in place with a drop of CA! Much better now! Whew!

I'm glad I averted building a tail sitter! That would have sucked!

Jim

Hi Jim,

Once again thank you for sharing the info you found during your research.  And good save on saving your Cobra from being a tail sitter! 

Ken

A bit more information - I read on another website that those plates on the left are actually to protect the side from the muzzle blast of the 20mm cannon, which could actually rip holes in the skin! Don't know which version is correct, but I think this seems more plausible than covering up wires - Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:08 AM

jimbot58

Duke Maddog

Wow, guys, tremendous progress here. I like it.

Steve, that ship is looking great. I think tarps would have been on the guns if she was underway in rough seas to a home port out of a combat zone. I believe the tarps would have remained off if they were patrolling in an area where enemy activity was expected, despite the heavy seas. Hope that helps.

Jim, the Supercobra is probably hauling an ECM pod on the side. That is what that looks like.

Way to go guys! Keep it coming!

The unit I'm building is not actually a Super Cobra, just one of the early units used in SEA. The Super's were twin engine. I had the pod Identified as s SUU-11/A gun pod with yet another 7.62 minigun! More fire power!

I trial fitted the skids tonight, and uh oh! This isn't good!

I was fortunate that I hadn't cemented in the nose piece yet! I cut up some little pieces of a fishing weight, dropped them into the nose, and held them in place with a drop of CA! Much better now! Whew!

I'm glad I averted building a tail sitter! That would have sucked!

Jim

Hi Jim,

Once again thank you for sharing the info you found during your research.  And good save on saving your Cobra from being a tail sitter! 

Ken

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    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:05 AM

Gamera

Mike: It's good to have you back! Neat looking scheme on that 109.

Jim: Very cool, ok the Supercobra isn't quite an Apache but yeah she's armed to the teeth!

Steve: Yow man! She's coming along great. I've got a couple ships in my stash but so far haven't had the guts to tackle them- you're making it look easy though.

Ok, I did get a little done over the weekend, painted the props for both the Wildcat and Hellcat. So all the yellow on the kits is out of the way, which makes me very happy!!!

Congratulations Cliff on getting past the milestone!  Smile 

Ken

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    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:03 AM

jimbot58

Well, tonight I sat and did research to learn more about just what I was building!

First, I had no idea what these panels were that get cemented to the left side of the aircraft:

I thought they were armor plates or something.

Seems they are actually part of the XM35 gun system. The panels cover the added wiring for the operation of the gun, which consists of a 20mm canon mounted under the left stub wing and 900 rounds of ammunition carried in the pod fairings mounted over the skids.

The gun:

Seems that this machine is armed to the teeth! Along with the cannon, it also carried a 7.62 mini-gun in the chin turret with 4000 rounds of ammo, and a 40mm grenade launcher with 300 rounds. Not to mention the rocket pods carried at the end of the stub pylons!

The only thing I can't identify is the pod carried opposite of the 20mm on the inside station, starboard side:

I'm going to pop over to the helicopter forum and post a query there. I don't think it's a weapon.

Jim

Hi Jim,

Thank you for sharing your research with us.  I have said this before, I think the research is just as much fun as building the model.

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:00 AM

modelcrazy

A little more done this weekend. I painted the Hull (I still need the black boot top stripe) and sat the sub-assemblies on the deck to see how everything fits. I am' very pleased with the results. I'll take everything back off and do some more deck and hull painting, install AA guns, the catapult , rigging and railings, but I just wanted to give an update.

Steve

Hi Steve,

It looks great so far!  Your hard work shows.  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:58 AM

mikeymize

  Hey Jim, good to see you're making progress in spite of all the annoying things you have to do on your week-end. I did the same kind of stuff on my days off as well; laundry, yard work, etc. I do have some pics of my new build though so at least I'm making some progress. LoL!

Hi Mike,

I always liked the Bf-109, even as a kid.  I wish I knew how many I built.  Interesting paint scheme with the "eyeball".

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:53 AM

jimbot58

Hey gang!

Well the weather here has been a major PITA with nearly 2 weeks of non-stop rain! The ground is saturated and the result is that we have had a lot of street flooding, and homes affected! The creek near my house overflowed Friday night, forcing the both the streets leading to the south of my house to close forcing me to drive several miles just to visit the Walmart that I can see from my house! (The creek is between me and Wally-world). This was followed last night by several inches of wet snow falling overnight causing downed trees and power outages!

The rains have stopped for now, but they are still waiting for the rivers to crest, and many places down stream are a concern as they wait for the surge to reach them.

After getting my washer fixed and getting my flat tire repaired I was finally able to sit down and make some progress at the bench!

Mostly worked on the Cobra. It's finally starting to take shape!

Sadly, I haven't had time to work on all the other projects on my platr!

Jim

Hi Jim,

Your Cobra is looking very nice!  (As always!)  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 7:16 AM

So she's just a Cobra eh? Nice save there with the nose weight - gee that's annoying to find out you've got a tail-sitter after everything is closed up.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:38 AM

Duke Maddog

Wow, guys, tremendous progress here. I like it.

Steve, that ship is looking great. I think tarps would have been on the guns if she was underway in rough seas to a home port out of a combat zone. I believe the tarps would have remained off if they were patrolling in an area where enemy activity was expected, despite the heavy seas. Hope that helps.

Jim, the Supercobra is probably hauling an ECM pod on the side. That is what that looks like.

Way to go guys! Keep it coming!

The unit I'm building is not actually a Super Cobra, just one of the early units used in SEA. The Super's were twin engine. I had the pod Identified as s SUU-11/A gun pod with yet another 7.62 minigun! More fire power!

I trial fitted the skids tonight, and uh oh! This isn't good!

I was fortunate that I hadn't cemented in the nose piece yet! I cut up some little pieces of a fishing weight, dropped them into the nose, and held them in place with a drop of CA! Much better now! Whew!

I'm glad I averted building a tail sitter! That would have sucked!

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, May 11, 2015 10:53 AM

Duke Maddog
I think tarps would have been on the guns if she was underway in rough seas to a home port out of a combat zone. I believe the tarps would have remained off if they were patrolling in an area where enemy activity was expected, despite the heavy seas. Hope that helps.

I already came to that conclusion thanks to MikeF6F's post in the WIP thread

"I wouldn't cover your excellent work with tarps even if it makes sense with your planned display.  While knowlegable ship types will know what is covered and why, any casual viewers of you model will miss the fact that there were guns mounted all over the ship.  That of course, is one of the distinguished characteristics of a WW II USN ship anyway.

Besides, the ship was on a special mission and may have been at a constant high state of readiness and may not have had anything covered at all."

I like that, and I think someone else posted "a fast ship going in harm's way"

Thank you for your complement and answering the tarp question. I will cover the small boats and tuck the planes in the hangers though.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, May 11, 2015 9:47 AM

Wow, guys, tremendous progress here. I like it.

Steve, that ship is looking great. I think tarps would have been on the guns if she was underway in rough seas to a home port out of a combat zone. I believe the tarps would have remained off if they were patrolling in an area where enemy activity was expected, despite the heavy seas. Hope that helps.

Jim, the Supercobra is probably hauling an ECM pod on the side. That is what that looks like.

Way to go guys! Keep it coming!

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, May 11, 2015 7:11 AM

Mike: It's good to have you back! Neat looking scheme on that 109.

Jim: Very cool, ok the Supercobra isn't quite an Apache but yeah she's armed to the teeth!

Steve: Yow man! She's coming along great. I've got a couple ships in my stash but so far haven't had the guts to tackle them- you're making it look easy though.

Ok, I did get a little done over the weekend, painted the props for both the Wildcat and Hellcat. So all the yellow on the kits is out of the way, which makes me very happy!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Monday, May 11, 2015 1:55 AM

Well, tonight I sat and did research to learn more about just what I was building!

First, I had no idea what these panels were that get cemented to the left side of the aircraft:

I thought they were armor plates or something.

Seems they are actually part of the XM35 gun system. The panels cover the added wiring for the operation of the gun, which consists of a 20mm canon mounted under the left stub wing and 900 rounds of ammunition carried in the pod fairings mounted over the skids.

The gun:

Seems that this machine is armed to the teeth! Along with the cannon, it also carried a 7.62 mini-gun in the chin turret with 4000 rounds of ammo, and a 40mm grenade launcher with 300 rounds. Not to mention the rocket pods carried at the end of the stub pylons!

The only thing I can't identify is the pod carried opposite of the 20mm on the inside station, starboard side:

I'm going to pop over to the helicopter forum and post a query there. I don't think it's a weapon.

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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    September 2010
  • From: California
Posted by mikeymize on Sunday, May 10, 2015 10:32 PM

Steve, for heaven's sake slow down; you're making me feel bad! Seriously, It looks phenomenal you've obviously put in a lot of work and it shows!

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:26 PM

A little more done this weekend. I painted the Hull (I still need the black boot top stripe) and sat the sub-assemblies on the deck to see how everything fits. I am' very pleased with the results. I'll take everything back off and do some more deck and hull painting, install AA guns, the catapult , rigging and railings, but I just wanted to give an update.

Steve

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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  • From: California
Posted by mikeymize on Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:11 PM

BTW, although the pics sideways, that's the scheme I'm doing, mostly cause I like the "eyes" on the beule . Also, the camo looks to be fairly easy!

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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    September 2010
  • From: California
Posted by mikeymize on Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:10 PM

  Hey Jim, good to see you're making progress in spite of all the annoying things you have to do on your week-end. I did the same kind of stuff on my days off as well; laundry, yard work, etc. I do have some pics of my new build though so at least I'm making some progress. LoL!

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


  • Member since
    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, May 10, 2015 12:16 PM

Hey gang!

Well the weather here has been a major PITA with nearly 2 weeks of non-stop rain! The ground is saturated and the result is that we have had a lot of street flooding, and homes affected! The creek near my house overflowed Friday night, forcing the both the streets leading to the south of my house to close forcing me to drive several miles just to visit the Walmart that I can see from my house! (The creek is between me and Wally-world). This was followed last night by several inches of wet snow falling overnight causing downed trees and power outages!

The rains have stopped for now, but they are still waiting for the rivers to crest, and many places down stream are a concern as they wait for the surge to reach them.

After getting my washer fixed and getting my flat tire repaired I was finally able to sit down and make some progress at the bench!

Mostly worked on the Cobra. It's finally starting to take shape!

Sadly, I haven't had time to work on all the other projects on my platr!

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

  • Member since
    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:27 PM

mikeymize

Hey guys, I've finally got wi-fi at my house so I can let you know I'm on board. I'll be building the Bf-109 G-6 in 1/48 by Eduard. It's the Profi-pack one that's got all the PE stuff and masks, which I'll definitely be using as I'm going with the old style canopy as opposed to the Erla type. I'll have some pics up soon. I know I'm a little behind the power curve but I think it'll be okay.

I wouldn't worry about the "power curve". I don't think any of us other Steve has been able to accomplish much lately. Today is my day off and what am I doing? Running all over town to find parts for my washer, only to find out all that was wrong was a loose wire! ( I put the new part in anyway - I didn't want to drive back across town AND pay a 25% restock fee!) Now that I got it all back together, I can start my laundry before I go out again to have a tire repaired!

What happened to weekends to have fun and relaxing? Grrrrrrrrr!

Steve: Again great stuff there! Yes

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, May 9, 2015 1:47 PM

mikeymize

Hey guys, I've finally got wi-fi at my house so I can let you know I'm on board. I'll be building the Bf-109 G-6 in 1/48 by Eduard. It's the Profi-pack one that's got all the PE stuff and masks, which I'll definitely be using as I'm going with the old style canopy as opposed to the Erla type. I'll have some pics up soon. I know I'm a little behind the power curve but I think it'll be okay.

Hi Mike,

The front page has been updated.  Nice to know we will be hearing from you again on a more regular basis!

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, May 9, 2015 1:43 PM

modelcrazy

Here's tonight work. I painted the structure and antennas and installed the guns and halyards. Next, I'll work on a minor structure aft of this one and install all the sub assemblies onto the hull.

I was thinking of making some tarps for the guns since she will be in some spray. I saw some pictures of her in the Mare Island drydock in '45 with tarps over the guns. I suppose they were to keep foreign matter and welding slag off, but it got me to thinking. What do you guys think?

Steve

Hi Steve,

How many times can I say "WOW"!  Great job, it looks really nice!  Yes  Yes 

I wish I could answer your question about tarps, but ship building is not my forte.

Ken

  • Member since
    September 2010
  • From: California
Posted by mikeymize on Saturday, May 9, 2015 1:30 PM

Hey guys, I've finally got wi-fi at my house so I can let you know I'm on board. I'll be building the Bf-109 G-6 in 1/48 by Eduard. It's the Profi-pack one that's got all the PE stuff and masks, which I'll definitely be using as I'm going with the old style canopy as opposed to the Erla type. I'll have some pics up soon. I know I'm a little behind the power curve but I think it'll be okay.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Friday, May 8, 2015 1:50 PM
modelcrazy

jimbot58

Arggghh! I almost chuckled at that!

No, I was just thinking how a simple photo like that could be a national security risk in those days!

Yeah, sorry, that was bad form on my part. After I posed it I thought I should have rephrased that.

The series of photos I found, point out several changes to the ship with added for gun directors, radar, guns, etc.
Releasing photos like that could be devastating for the fleet. 

No worries! Sorry no smilies. I'm on a work computer and they don't work here! And yes, I'm getting paid for this! Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Friday, May 8, 2015 1:46 PM
Gamera

Lol, just watch out for time-traveling Japanese Wink

Happens all the time in Hollywood! Ha Ha!

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 8, 2015 11:34 AM

Lol, just watch out for time-traveling Japanese Wink

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, May 8, 2015 8:18 AM

jimbot58

Arggghh! I almost chuckled at that!

No, I was just thinking how a simple photo like that could be a national security risk in those days!

Yeah, sorry, that was bad form on my part. After I posed it I thought I should have rephrased that.

The series of photos I found, point out several changes to the ship with added for gun directors, radar, guns, etc.
Releasing photos like that could be devastating for the fleet. 

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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Posted by jimbot58 on Friday, May 8, 2015 12:12 AM

modelcrazy

jimbot58
Cool how the photo was tagged as "Not to be released for publication" Security was no doubt still tight then, and after all "loose lips sink ships!" Jim

Oh no, do you think I put the ship in danger?

Arggghh! I almost chuckled at that!

No, I was just thinking how a simple photo like that could be a national security risk in those days!

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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