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Posted by waynec on Thursday, August 6, 2015 3:31 PM

jibber

Wayne for a detective I sure miss a lot of things lately, but I'm going to paint everything German Grey but I plan on keeping the gun pretty clean while the carriages a bit dirtier and I'm going to modulate the paint a little. I've seen photos of these guns is pristine condition and "field rough" so I think i'll go for something in between. I would think with such large support personnel, they would keep these expensive pieces clean and operational.

Terry  

 

i agree with that. these mortars aen't always dirty and will be a nice change. i like color modulation. you using oils? i have a set of COMART acrylics, 10 shades of gray, i am going to try out on my TYPE XXVII

looking at rail cars around here it looks like the trucks just have an accumulation of road grime. i plan on doing the same thing with my dark yallow K-5. guess i best get back on it.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, August 6, 2015 7:11 PM

Wayne i'm going to use Tamiya german grey as my base then a mix of light grey and a blue to get my color, if it not right i'll add some white. I've used this combo before but not on such large panels and parts so we'll see. I'm saving the oils for pin washes and weathering. I like the idea of having all those shades in gray, one of those would certainly be right, but I like spraying either all Tamiya or MM, I dont think i've ever mixed them as final coats.

 

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:48 PM

Terry i do that with Vallejo paints. get my base color in the airbrush and add a drop or two for a lighter bor darker color. the bottles are also droppers so it's real easy. i lightened the dark yellow on the K-5 and sprayed just overhead to give some contrast. the gun carraije will be slightly lighter and the gun will be slightly darker.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 7, 2015 9:26 AM

I've been trying the colour modulation thing- you start out dark and then gradually lighten the paint as you work your way up the model from the shadows like the trucks underneath into the sunlight like the top of the barrel. 

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Posted by jibber on Friday, August 7, 2015 3:04 PM

I think thats a perfect way of doing it, i'm going to try a few things before I jump into it but I have a while yet.

How COOL is this sprocket...and its made to have a cover over it. Gives me a rash to even think about hiding it. Anyway some suspension and a lot of wheels on the main gun that measures out at about 13".

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Posted by jibber on Friday, August 7, 2015 3:08 PM

One more shot, I can't help it. Look how deep the gear grooves go, i'm going to find a way of displaying it without a cover, maybe a couple mechanics kneeling down to grease it up?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 7, 2015 3:10 PM

That is way cool Terry,

I wonder if that is on the 1:72 scale version.

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Posted by jibber on Friday, August 7, 2015 5:11 PM

No it isnt, but I think detail like this makes the Trumpeter kit light years ahead of Dragons.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 9, 2015 5:09 PM

Wow, that is some impressive detailing there on the drive sprockets Terry. Don't blame you for leaving the covers off.

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Posted by waynec on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:41 PM

hey MC

 

can i jump in here with an OTS TOXSO SCUD? been working on it for OTS and GW1 GBs. yes i still intend to do the other 2

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Posted by waynec on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:42 PM

jibber

No it isnt, but I think detail like this makes the Trumpeter kit light years ahead of Dragons.

 

i have heard that is true for the 1/35 K-5 RR guns and is the reason i will pay more for the Trumpeter 1/35 HEMMT PATRIOT.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:05 PM

waynec
can i jump in here with an OTS TOXSO SCUD?

You got it. I updated the roster.

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Posted by waynec on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:07 AM

Lesson 1. look very closely at the tire halves. while it appears the 3 slots are 120 degrees apart and the same size i don't think they are. sorta forced one, second and third went smoothly so i looked at the tread and saw the error on first, pried it apart and fixed it. same with fourth. there is an axle that needs to be inside due to a spacer on the one tire half. i just glued it since i don't want the wheels turning. also there are left side and right side tires and mounts so keep them segregated. when the slots are correct the fit is fine. this doesn't even qualify as an annoyance just a head's up and a nice early warning to moi to dry fit and RTFI.

second set of tires went together fine. no paint instructions for interior but am going with pale blue per DML kit. black chassis amnd khaki/sand exterior with white missile

there are 4 subsections along the chassis. the first and third have interiors and opening doors so they are awaiting a paint decision. this is the second section located behind the cab. for some reason they left the back of the storage boxes open. it probably wouldn't be seen in travel mode but would be in launch mode. i added some styrene, glued the tops on, and filled the gaps with white glue and a Q-tip.

tried thinning the 3M Bondo with acetone before filling seams on the SCUD. looks good but i haven't painted the seams to check. will do that today. givern this is OTS i will use Tamiya fine surface primer instead of my usual. cost A LOT more but can use the HobbyLobby 40% coupons.

here is the missile and both sides of the control room (Section 3). closeups show what will be seen with the hatches open. picked up some Vallejo blue/gray which is a very light gray with a hint of blue. may add a bit of blue to it just to ad some color. missile will be pale gray instead of white and i have seen piucs where they are the same color as the TEL.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:37 AM

Terry,

That is odd about the rifling. I'll have to check the OTS, as Wayne calls it, Hase kit to see if it's the same. I can't wait to see the finished project.

Wayne,

You’re moving right along. I had an Al-Husain Scud at one time but sold it. Wish I had it now for Stick's GB.

I still haven't gotten the hobby room up and running. We moved from a 5 BR 2500 sq. ft. house to a 3 BR 1400 sq. ft. house and I still have boxes everywhere. I am moving boxes from storage to the house and from the house to storage in the evening after work. I have unpacked some of the hobby room boxes (at least I have a hobby room now) but am so beat in the evening I just don't have the stamina to get in there. My Pulmonary Fibrosis doesn’t help as I only have about 60% lung capacity now and just get worn out quickly. The wife gets on me about working too hard, but I just want to get finished so I can relax with a model in the evening and don't have all this work hanging over my head. Besides, we need to be out of one of our storage units by the end of August.

 

Oh well, maybe I should listen to her. What good will my models be if I have a heart attack getting to a place where I have no more work.

Steve

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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:17 AM

Steve go easy, theres nothing more important than your health.

Wayne from the photo it looks ike the wheels are just fine.

 

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Posted by waynec on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:18 PM

jibber

Steve go easy, theres nothing more important than your health.

Wayne from the photo it looks ike the wheels are just fine.

 

DITTO take care of yourself and listen to her ,Steve. 

Terry the wheels are fine. the comment was intetnded for other builders. as mentioned, once i figured out the pin slot thing the right side 4 wheels were a snap. some seam sanding but that gives a worn look to the tires.

interesting on the chassis, the front 4 wheels turn but i guess they are alligned internally or electronically. no tie rods like on the BdW 6x6 FUCHS.

no easy way to turn them on the kit. IIRC the SS-25 is the same way. may be a Soviet design thing or i am too used to trucks. 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:14 PM

Very cool stuff guys!

Steve: I know what you mean about wanting to get stuff set up but she's right- don't push yourself too much.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:44 AM

Thanks guys, my wife got very upset with me last night when I came home and started working in the garage (103 deg. F). I promised her I would only work on the hobby room until Saturday.

Terry,
Since I was in the hobby room last night and restocking my stash. I opened the OTS Hase Karl. I found the barrel and guess what? The rifling’s are straight on that one as well. Do you suppose the riffling’s were straight on the actual gun?

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:01 AM

That's interesting, I wonder if considering the shell's size the barrel only had a slight amount of rifling- so little that it looks straight??? 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:44 AM
That would seem to make more sense. Why would you have rifling’s in a bore if they were straight?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:45 PM
There does seem to be a slight twist in the rifling’s.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 14, 2015 11:37 AM

That's one big honkin' breech!!! 

Hmm, it is discernable from the photo you posted Steve. Dunno why they molded it that way unless it's easier to mold straight lines maybe??? 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 14, 2015 12:56 PM
That's OK. To solve the problem I'm going to drape a tarp over that gaping maul on my build so the rifling's won't be seen

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Posted by waynec on Friday, August 14, 2015 1:17 PM

modelcrazy
That's OK. To solve the problem I'm going to drape a tarp over that gaping maul on my build so the rifling's won't be seen
 

i wouldn't worry about it. no one is going to be able to get that close to see and wouldn't know if it was correct or not even if they could see it.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 14, 2015 1:40 PM

Yeah, your right. But a tarp may look cool anyway.
You know, I need to start looking for a 1/72 crew for the gun and locomotive.

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Posted by jibber on Friday, August 14, 2015 7:44 PM

Thanks for that photo Steve. I dont think itll be a big issue, i'm going to have it in the rested (down) position and you may not be able to see much. 

I got more work done today but forgot to take photos, I was to busy watching the PGA at the bench. The wheels are on, the hulls are together and the gun is built. Tomorrow I shoud start on the cradle and making my ties.

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Posted by jibber on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:41 AM

I have an update with quite a few photos. I've been working on the main gun and carriage mostly along with making some railroad ties and bed to take a break from the bench. 

Here are the pics that show some awesome detail in this Trumpeter kit, minor putty work, some tedious PE and dry fitting of the main parts. One thing to note is the working gear in the cariage that matches the bottom of the gun to allow for smooth elevation.

 

Lot of work left to do....Terry

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:30 PM
Terry, Nice looking beast. Really coming along. That is one massive gun. You are really making me want to start on mine.

Steve

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