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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:04 AM

Then that is a nasty little warhead, you certainly want to be on the good end of that one.

Steve, really nice work on that woodgrain. That probably wasn't easy and looks like its going well.

I have some shots I need to post on the Karl Morser but I updated my Mac and I Photo is different. I can't figure out how to get the pics in my Photobucket?

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:52 AM

Theuns, cool scratch building on the tripod mounted warhead.  Yes

For sure, adding a figure would give it a semblance of scale.

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Steve, you definitely achieved the look of wood on those pieces.  I've looked at few photos of original cannons, and found some did have multiple sections, while others it was just the base platform that appeared separate from the sides.  I'd suggest google images of the ship or historical place your modeling here?

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Jack

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:20 AM

Thanks Jack,

We probably have seen the same pictures, namely the ones on the Constitution, Victory and some forts. I've also looked at completed models, however most show the same kit I'm working with that does not have any woodgrain similar to those shown on the ships. It looks to me that they have been painted so many times that it looks like a solid piece.
Oh well, I think segmented wood looks better, so here are some shots I took this morning prior to running off to work.

Steve

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:24 AM

that is some really good wood look you got there ,all thumbs way up.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:32 AM

The wood looks great to me Steve. Fixing the seam on the metallized barrel there looks like it will be interesting.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:42 AM

Steve, I think that looks right on.   If you want a little more detail, add some bolts to the topside to indicate how the sections are held together (or does the kit provide for this?). 

Check out this 3D rendered piece, nice bit of reference I'd say:

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/max-naval-cannon/336504

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Jack

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:52 AM

Shoot, I wish I has seen that before I scribes all those lines. It looks like the trucks are only 2 pieces, dang it. I was thinking about some bolts and no the kit doesn't provide any. I will grab some hex sprue pieces and cut them for bolt heads.

I have 2 questions.

1. Does anyone have any ideas for the rope. The kits rope looks good, but the kit is so old and moved around so many times, that the rope if all frazzled.

2. Does anybody have any ideas for the ramrod swab. The kits ramrod is all plastic and I want to replace the swab similar to this I found on images.

Steve

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:03 PM

Steve,

 

Not sure if the head of a cotton swab (Q-Tip) would be any good for the ram rod?

 

 

 Bruce

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:18 PM

That was my wife's idea.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:44 PM

modelcrazy

That was my wife's idea.

 

Good! Great mind's think alike.lol

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:20 PM

was that the ram-rod used to compact the charge or the wetted rod to make sure that ere no hot spots still left in the cannon?

I do agree a cotton bud would work well :-)

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:28 PM

How about a short section of pipe cleaner? It kind of a structured thing.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:40 AM

Theuns,

The ramrod did both jobs with two different ends.

I will try both ideas to see which one looks more like wool.

I finished sanding and painting the barrel tonight and will have pics tomorrow.

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM

Aha, that makes sense .two tools in one :-)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:25 AM

I worked a little on the barrel last night and painted it. It looks like I need to do a little more work on the locating pin dimples at the center of the barrel.

I went with the cotton idea to see if that would work, especially since my wife suggested it and follows my work. So I attached some cotton to the ramrod plastic swab with some thin acrylic medium. Hopefully it will look plausible as a swab when it dries. It will defiantly look better than a blob of plastic.

All in all, this is a pretty neat little kit, that lends itself to some fun improvements.

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:11 PM

The swab looks pretty decent to me.

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:25 PM

Dumb question from me - would the full size barrel be a casting of bronze or similar? If so I think the mold seams you have would actually be scale then? I am sure if they made the barrels by casting they would not waste time to pollish it out...?

Just asking since I know nothing about these cannons

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:45 PM

I read somewhere that the naval cannon barrels were bronze to resist corrosion from the salt and lower weight, however, all the 24 pounders I can find have black barrels. I don't know if those are bronze or iron. I would assume iron. I'm going with black because that's the only examples I can find.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, June 19, 2015 7:06 AM

Steve,

That swab looks even more realistic than what I first envisioned. Good job!

 Bruce

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, June 19, 2015 11:58 AM

Thanks Bruce, I those are my thoughts as well,

Well I fixed the barrel and went out and bought some twill twine to replace the rope that came with the kit. It won't be long now, I just have to put everything together.

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 19, 2015 1:11 PM

Looks good from here!

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, June 19, 2015 1:25 PM

and from here :-)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:57 AM

Here's my update.

I'm completed with the assembly, I just need to attach the rope and place it on a base.

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, June 21, 2015 1:07 AM

that look the biz! Very nice

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, June 21, 2015 10:29 PM

I'm done with the 24 Pounder. It was a real joy to build this kit. Everything fit well and besides some filling on the barrel, there were no real problems. The kit was a little lacking in the detail department, however it lended itself to several enjoyable upgrades. It's a shame it is not produced at present, as far as I know.
I am seriously thinking of hunting down Palmer Plastic's Civil War Cannon and Gatling Gun to add to the collection.

Here is the finished product.

Steve

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:21 PM

stunning, the ramrod looks perfect. What is that lever on the right side for? Was that to elevate the barrel?

Theuns

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Posted by Rob S. on Monday, June 22, 2015 5:18 AM

Inspiring build Steve! Very cool....well done! YesCoolYes

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 22, 2015 7:26 AM

Looks terrific Steve, I'd swear the carriage was actually made of wood!

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, June 22, 2015 8:39 AM

Steve, now that turned out really great, fine job with the wood simulation, and brilliant idea for the swab - awesome! Yes

regards,

Jack

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, June 22, 2015 9:25 AM

Steve,

Looks fantastic! It looks like real wood, and the swab looks perfect. And I really like the base, brings the whole presentation together very nicely!

 Bruce

 

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                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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