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The 2017/ 2018 Too Little Too Late Group Build

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Posted by rooster513 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:40 AM

Rigidrider

 

 
rooster513

The 262 is looking great Doug! What are you using for paint?

 

 

 

Hey Andy...I,m using Model Masters acrylcs reduced with lacquer thinner about 50/50. 

 

 

 

What brand of thinner do you use?

-Andy

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Posted by rooster513 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:45 AM

I've got started on my Hasegawa ME262. The kit has gone together pretty much pain free but the pit has next to no detail but can't see much in ther anyway. I did add some belts made from masking tape to spruce things up a bit. I just need to remember to add some weight before closing attaching the gun covers in the front.Big Smile

-Andy

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:06 AM

Nice work Andy, is this the 72nd kit.

Shows how sparce there older kit cockpits are.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by rooster513 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:35 AM

Thanks Bish. Yeah it's the 72nd kit. It just has decals for the cockpit. I did some very simple scratch work to give it depth but it can't really be seen.

-Andy

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Posted by silentbob33 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:12 PM
I'm finally starting to get caught up everywhere on here and there's a lot of good stuff going on in here, too much for me to be specific with everyone. Keep up all the good work!

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:20 PM

rooster513

Thanks Bish. Yeah it's the 72nd kit. It just has decals for the cockpit. I did some very simple scratch work to give it depth but it can't really be seen.

 

I have a couple of their 262's but not built one yet. I was surprised to learn they all date from 1985, they have nopt re-tooled it since, just new parts or decals.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:54 PM

Andy... I'm just using plain ole lacquer thinner. Depending what I want the paint to do, I've used water, isopropol rubbing, 70% to 90%, Lacquer thinner, and even windex glass cleaner on occasion. That 72nd 262 your doing really looks like it has some detail too it. Its looking good... 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:00 AM

 

jack: You're doing some amazing work starting with the pilot and again with the use of those gun barrels in such small scale.

rocker: Man you are making me freekin' hungry with those dang ribs bubba!!!! Wow! I'm going to have get me a couple of racks of those this weekend now that you've shown that!! Looks like some good progress on the 262 fella!

Blackdog: It's surely great to have you in here and with another of Kurt Tank's beauties at that!!!! Really looking forward to seeing this one come together. Will be entering your entry in the intro.

Doug: You really bring alot to the show with your paint work. Only now I see that you're in the 1/72nd scale swing of things. Yes

Andy: Smokin' through that one right there!! Good lookin' set of seat belts you've got yourself there. I'll put you down in the intro as well buddy.

Everybody: I apologize for the absence over the weekend. Went out of town and the family still hasn't recovered yet. Thanks for hanging in there with me and being patient fellas. My wife doesn't have the energy she used to have before her aneurysm so I step in alot for her and take care of alot of the day to day chores and making sure our son is doing what he's supposed to do in school which proves to be a full time job in itself.

Fantastic work from everyone here and looking forward to more. You guys rock!

Edit: Andy and blackdog....your new entries are now in the intro post.

 

                   

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:18 AM

Really coming along nicely. 

What airbrush are you using for that fine work your doing ?

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:29 AM

Thank you ridgidrider. That all sounds like good solid advice. Really looking foword to this scheme being i have a acadamy 109-T i think. With the squiglys on top. Its a 109 with the extended wings for there navy. So the how to do it has bin on my mind.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:32 AM

Howdy bish. I have seen that desine on there ju- 88 night fighters.

Just a lot more of it.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:39 AM

Thanks mopar.

So far it's been nice haven't got to far into it. I picked this one over my Dragon ta-152 because this one has the back of the motor that can be seen in the wheel well openings. There's also the fact I would have to cut the hole front of the Dragon kit has to be cut off and replaced with another in the kit. Lol not sure I'm ready for that.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:40 AM

LOL...Joe, your a real funny guy! lol... No really. 72nds are too small for my aging a**. Although, sometimes a 72nd jet model is OK, since there about the size of a 48th prop plane. Any way... DECALS!!! 

As I apply decals, I'm also doing the weathering on this one... seems to be working out OK at this point.

So far so good, I was going to use chalk dusting on this one to show detail, but I can't find my fixative to seal it with. Any way the AK liquids seem to be doing what I wanted it to do. Well any way, thanks for looking and soon as this sets up, we'll start mounting them together. Take care all!

Doug

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:46 AM

blackdog62

Howdy bish. I have seen that desine on there ju- 88 night fighters.

Just a lot more of it.

 

Ye, and a lot of the aircraft used in the anti shipping role had it as well, usually in a light blue, thats what i was trying to do. I have got a Revell Fw 200 where one of the schemes has it. Now thats a lot of plane to cover.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:47 AM

blackdog62

Thanks moors.

So far it's been nice haven't got to far into it. I picked this one over my Dragon ta-152 because this one has the back of the motor that can be seen in the wheel well openings. There's also the fact I would have to cut the hole front of the Dragon kit has to be cut off and replaced with another in the kit. Lol not sure I'm ready for that.

 

Don't worry.....you'll get there.

                   

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:48 AM

Rigidrider

LOL...Joe, your a real funny guy! lol... No really. 72nds are too small for my aging a**. Although, sometimes a 72nd jet model is OK, since there about the size of a 48th prop plane. Any way... DECALS!!! 

As I apply decals, I'm also doing the weathering on this one... seems to be working out OK at this point.

So far so good, I was going to use chalk dusting on this one to show detail, but I can't find my fixative to seal it with. Any way the AK liquids seem to be doing what I wanted it to do. Well any way, thanks for looking and soon as this sets up, we'll start mounting them together. Take care all!

Doug

 

That is looking real good Doug.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:55 AM

:that:  I'll second that!!!!

                   

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Posted by rooster513 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:00 AM

Decals are really looking good Doug!

-Andy

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:02 AM

Really looking good. I really like the 2 color recognition band. It looks like your kit has the mounting for 2 extra gas tanks behind the front landing gear. 

I ordered my 262 kit because it showed those on the box art. But there not part of the kit. Bummer.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:34 PM

blackdog62

Really looking good. I really like the 2 color recognition band. It looks like your kit has the mounting for 2 extra gas tanks behind the front landing gear. 

I ordered my 262 kit because it showed those on the box art. But there not part of the kit. Bummer.

 

Guys , Thank you... As I said before, this kit isn't bad at all. Other then a few little flubs, not unseen with other kits.... I'd buy another. 

Black Dog, yes it does and yes I'll use then. I figure that lifting and carrying a Ju88, well, you better have xtra fuel! lol... If you have a couple of old bombs, use them, fins removed of course. If you look at a kit that comes with them, there is a decal that comes with it to apply to tank that says , Kien Bombe, (I think) which means not a bomb. lolol...Yeah, just take your time on the squiggles and they will be fine. Just make sure that you mix enough paint(and it won't take much) I always have issues where the paint is working wonderfully, I run out, then I cant get it mixed the same and its noticable! Then I have to go back over mostly everything again to get it the same! lolol... 

Thanks again all...

Doug

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, June 2, 2017 6:34 PM

Second update ...

Pilot and cockpit done - nothing really special with the kit, detail is sufficient given the scale.  Machine gun sub-assembly also in position.

Upper wing halves glued onto lower wing.  Before doing that, I did measure out and drilled holes to place some wire as a brace/post in front of the rads.  A bit more work sliding the wire through the upper wing, but at least here it is more sturdier with the thicker plastic than trying to drill a hole in the rad itself.  Plus, cleanup of the surface is free of any worries of marring surrounding detail.

The kit includes three types of rudders - for the 109 G-6/AS, the taller rudder without the extra trim tabs on the trailing edge is the one to go with.  Also removed the raised detail representing the actuator arm, replacing with stainless steel wire.

The underside fuselage intake is perhaps the one area requiring the most attention for backdating, as it needs to be the earlier shallow type.  I've made a start of cutting it open by scribing with a needle.  Razor saw would be quicker, but I find the blades too flimsy to give a straight cut.  A couple bulges in the forward end also need to be removed.

regards,

Jack

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:48 AM
Wow Jack that is amazing

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, June 4, 2017 7:16 AM

Jack... the radiator stiffeners are almost always WAY to thick and need to be cut out and replaced. I've always used a piece of plastistruct or evergreen round cut to fit.... I like your way better! Thanks for sharing.

Doug

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:09 AM

jack, looking very nice. I was a bit confused about the wire out the top of the wing, but thats a great idea.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, June 4, 2017 11:51 AM

Thanks guys - yeah, should of mentioned the wire protruding out of the top wing still had to be snipped and sanded flush.  The wire is .006 inch diameter, though I should of done the math beforehand.   Calculating that to 1/72 scale would make it almost  11mm, which I think is still too large, so should of gone with half that size I think?



Got a test fit of the wing and fuselage.  Topside seam looks near perfect, while on the underside, I may have sanded a bit too much, hence the white sheet plastic in place.  I want to achieve a near fit as possible to avoid any sanding.  There is some rivet detail missing (marked in red). 

Any idea what those square holes are?  They don't appear to be present in the line drawings I've looked at.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, June 4, 2017 2:51 PM

Dang Jack!! You're really putting alot of work into that bad boy. Are you going to display the engine cowls open or closed? There is an engine exposed you know. Wink

Those square ports are exhaust chutes for the spent ammo casings from the cowl guns.

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, June 4, 2017 3:50 PM

That would have been my guess was the spent shell dump. I think I read somewhere that the spent caseing was pulled straight back and at the rearward travel of  the extraction , the shell case would eject through the opening, and drop straight down and out, head end first. Those holes look large enough for the 12.5 mm or maybe the 20mm.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 4, 2017 3:54 PM

Yep, i would third that. There position and size certainly look like ejection ports. Surprised you can't find them on line drawings Jack.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, June 4, 2017 4:26 PM

Very nice indede. You must have some good resurched material.  I'm always amazed how other modelers are able to find such small wire or metal rods. I have purchased all my local shops have it just seems never small enough.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, June 4, 2017 4:31 PM

Lol once again i have posted before reading thr rest of the post.

It all looks fine to me. I resolve often to stretched sprue or even q-tips if it needs to be hollow so I can slide smaller sprue in the end. Like for those little fragile wind speed tubs that stick off the wings.

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