Some sanding reveals that the TS13 affected only the enamel. The tamiy primer and plastic was not eaten.

I have used Alclad clearcoat over my enamel for years and it has not done anything to the paint.

I am just remembering that the propellant might have somthing to do with the hassles.....

Think I will just stick to clear acrylic again, its the safest option.

Theuns

Those look great guys!!! 

Theuns: Ouch that blows! No advice here, never used Tamiya rattle can paints. Good luck with the repairs, there's very few things I hate more than doing the whole blasted thing all over... 

Damn, that is nasty.

Isn't Tamiya a lacquer based product, and don't play nice with enamels?  From what I've just read, you can spray enamel over lacquer, but not the other way around - lacquer is very hot and melts the enamels.

regards,

Jack

Only tamiya clearcoat over humbrol enamle here, reacted in some areas worse than in others...

Theuns

O blimey, thats bad. I have a similar issue when i spray Alaclad primer onto enamel, but not the other way round. Furtunatly it was just a very small area.

Did you spray the only aircraft with the clearcoat.

Looking nice there guys, both coming on really well.

An update on the Tempest.  Here she is in Ocean Gray.

The interior of the gear bay doors.

I've got a set of masks on the way for the Dark Green. Never used them before, we'll see.  Thinking I might be able to adapt them to the Typhoon when I get to it.

I got the primer on, gave it a sanding with 4000 MM then did the preshading aswell as added some dark areas to "modulate" the paint and give it a slight faded patchy look, paint does not fade in a nice uniform way ,especially where the painter overlapped it with the spraygun.

. by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

In direct sunlight the effect is more clear than in this pic

DSCN1928 by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

Theuns

Here is the undercart, I like the way tamiya captured the complex feel of the mechanism.

. by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

Hoping to get primer on the airframe today.

Theuns

The inflight re-fueling capability would have certainly been added, they did so to the nimrod's and re fiited it to Vulcans for the Falklands. And i can imagine the TSR-2 being in use for that conflict. Not sure about a gun, seems a bit big for air to air combat or strafing runs.

Bish

One of those in Op Granby colours would be nice.

 

I was thinking the same thing.  I was thinking of adapting one of the shark mouthed Tornado schemes. I've also been thinking what kind of operational modifications they would have made over the years.  Would there have been a gun or two like the Tornado?  An aerial refueling probe would have to be added.  Would it be exposed like the Tornado, or retractable like the Tomcat? How much ordnance could you realistically hang?  In pics, it looks like the Tornado has six hard points on the fuselage.  The TSR-2 had an internal bay and wing hard points.  To extend the range, I'm thinking they would have stuck an auxiliary tank in the bomb bay, and added up to eight hard points (plus a center mounted fuel tank) under the fuselage.  Under the wings would be a fuel tank and a pod of some sort. It was originally going to morph into a swing wing, and that's a discussion for another time and place.

Ye, i noticed that as well. The kit is hard to get as well. All i could find was some re-released version with markings for what i think are japanese cartoon charectors. But it also comes with the original markings.

One of those in Op Granby colours would be nice.

Thanks for the help guys!  Went to the shop near work to pick up some yellow, ended up walking out with a new Airfix Typhoon as well.

Bish,

You're right about the Xtradecals What If sheets for the TSR2.  I remember seeing a pic here on the forum thinking "That's a nice Vigilante", then I realized it was a TSR2.  I looked for them on evilbay, they seem to be unobtanium at the moment.

Cliff, I think you are safe. 

I've posted on the British forum the question on the use lemon yellow  by the RAF, and there don't seem to any regular WW2 applications of it.  BSC (British Standard Colour) was set by their goverment, and were generally used by both civillain and military - this would explain the Lemon yellow in the chart alongside Golden Yellow.

In my searches I found this interesting table on scale effect of RAF paints:

https://www.cybermodeler.com/color/bs381c_comp.shtml

regards,

Jack

I normally just paint the leading edge strips and the warning tips on the prop at the same time. So I hope it should all be the same yellow. 

I've been using about the same colour as the smilies on this site... 

I didn't know that about the trainer yellow also being called IDyellow.

My thinking on it being differentto the roundels was that i thought the yellow on the roundels looks darker, but maybe i am getting it wrong, having the same colour would make perfect sense.

Xtracolour also has a a yellow it calls RAFRescue yellow, but i think thats for the SAR Sea Kings.

I've checked the literature in my library concerning yellow markings, and they have kept it straight forward and refer to it as just yellow and nothing more.  Personally, I see no reason why it should not be the same yellow as used for roundels?  My reasoning is that it would make it simpler for the factory, MTU and local ground crews to just have to deal with one type of yellow. 

This colour chart is interesting for it's entry on Trainer Yellow for the RAF, also known as Identification Yellow, and used for insignia:

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_uk.htm

There is a 1943/44 listing here of both a Lemon and Golden Yellow in use for the RAF, but I notice that in the Soveregn Authentic Colourcoats they only have one yellow.

regards,

Jack

I just use Testor's Model Master yellow. You might want to look around online for colour photos just to be sure. I think it did fade a little with the sun too. 

I am not sure on the exact colour for the yellow, i have seen several discussions as to why but not which colour. I am certain its not the same as the yellow around the roundels. I think just a standard yellow would suffice.

I have the new Airfix Lightning F.2, looks a very nice kit. That TSR.2 would be nice, there used to be some interesting what if markings by Xtradecal for that as well.

Alrighty then, Beamont's mount it is. What color yellow would be used for the leading edges on the wings?  Since I've been building the Tempest, I've decided I need a Typhoon.  Now I need a Lightning (I have the TSR already). One of the local hobby shops I go to has the new tool Airfix Lightning (and the Supermarine Swift).   Will have to be very careful the next time I'm there.

Yeah I think Jack's right there- it's the angle of the photo and the perspective that makes them appear angled. In any case she should make a very sharp looking model. 

lewbud

  What made this one attractive is that while I was looking up info on Beamont, I came across a picture of him standing next to this aircraft.  What's in usual about this aircraft is that in the picture (taken from above and to the rear at about 5 o'clock), the invasion stripes are angled in towards the prop, rather than running parallel to the fuselage. 

 

Thanks lewbud. So there is a 72nd kit of that, didn't realise. The Reapers wingspan is about 11inches, so a good size. But not as much as that RQ-4.

The RAF has had the Reaper since 2007 and they were flown out of Creech AFB in the US, but i think they are now flown from Waddington.

can't wait to see that tempest. You should deffinetly do beamonts mount. Some pilot. Fkying throug the war from start to finish. Worked out how to bring down V-1's, became a test pilot which included the Canberra, Lightning and TSR-2 and then lead international testing of the Tornado.

Bish, 

The Reaper looks great, didn't know the RAF flew them.  I've got the Platz 1/72 RQ-4B in the stash.  It comes with USAF, NASA, and Luftwaffe markings. I was going to build it in NASA markings but two things stopped me.  The first is its footprint. While not a large fore and aft, it is a wide model. Its wingspan is about the size of a B-17, I don't have that kind of real estate available in the display case.  The second is that the NASA birds are preproduction A frames, which means they have a shorter wingspan and fuselage.  This means purchasing a Unicraft kit.  But I digress.

Steve, 

The Fury looks good.  Keep it up!  The RAF built some lovely biplanes in the interest period.

Work is moving slowly on the Tempest.  Painted the underside today with Tamiya's Med. Sea Gray out of the rattle can. Nothing really pic worthy, but one was taken.  I had to order decals as the kit ones were not usable, they came today.  Torn between two aircraft. The first was flown by Wing Commander R P Beamont, primarily because it has a yellow spinner.  The other was flown by Flt. Lt. A.R. Moore.  Nothing really stood out about this plane in the color profiles on the decal sheet.  What made this one attractive is that while I was looking up info on Beamont, I came across a picture of him standing next to this aircraft.  What's in usual about this aircraft is that in the picture (taken from above and to the rear at about 5 o'clock), the invasion stripes are angled in towards the prop, rather than running parallel to the fuselage.  Never done invasion stripes before (outside of Academy's horrid decals on their P-51B).  Might be interesting.  Stay tuned.

Looks pretty cool to me SteveCB. 

Sounds like the usual old Airfix. But as long as your enjoying it.

Bish, it's a simple kit, but it takes some work to clean it up.  I spent some time filling in ejector holes on the lower wings.  The instructions say you can display the engine, but the engine bay doesn't look any like what the real thing does.  It's fun, though.

Looking nice Steve. How you finding it to build.

Here's the Fury as of yesterday.