GMorrison

Or use the brass barrel itself as the wire.

 

Or use the brass barrel itself as the wire.

GMorrison

At 1/700, a sixteen inch rifle barrel is about 0.035 inches outside diameter.

Another thing to try would be to use two of the barrels as your conductors. The big ball of fire would mount on the ends, and you might drill a hole in the end of each just enough to get a piece of brass wire in there.

 

goldhammer

I was thinking more of the fiber optic for the barrels on Bak's 1/700.  HF's 1/350 would be a possiblity to drill his 1/350 barrels.  On the 1/350's might get enough from an LED in the turret through the barrel to do the trick.

 

Here is the thing... in my case and at this scale, it'll probably be easier to fit micro wires into the gun barrels, and then hang an LED outside of them within the plume. I'd probably try cutting a trench, lay the wires in, then seal them up with CA or something. Then reshape the barrels so they are round again. Past experience showed me it is really difficult to keep micro drills going straight. Having just viewed GMs post, that is a pretty good idea too about the wires. Using two barrels, I could make the trenches smaller to accommodate only one wire per. That is a very good idea. 

I just took a look at my 1/350 barrels, they have enough meat to cut a hole through them, 1/700 may be a lot more of a challenge. 

But, do you all think having sound with the fire lighting effect would be cool?

At 1/700, a sixteen inch rifle barrel is about 0.035 inches outside diameter.

Another thing to try would be to use two of the barrels as your conductors. The big ball of fire would mount on the ends, and you might drill a hole in the end of each just enough to get a piece of brass wire in there.

I was thinking more of the fiber optic for the barrels on Bak's 1/700.  HF's 1/350 would be a possiblity to drill his 1/350 barrels.  On the 1/350's might get enough from an LED in the turret through the barrel to do the trick.

Sorry for not being so active in any GB's as of late. I have been waiting for this GB though. I really like the diversity of kits that everyone is building. I may have more than one, time will tell.

I have been pulled into outside work around the house. I have also went a different tangent recently working more on some larger scale resin figures. My current project (90mm Achilles) should be done soon and then I can start building within this GB.

I am going to commit to build my 1/350 Banner Arizona. I believe I got everything and anything that was made to improve her (deck, barrels, some resin details, countless sheets of P.E., etc.).

Please add me to the list, THANKS!

Ben

Yeah, you might be able to drill a 1/700 16" barrel.

If you can drill the brass out to accept a fiber optic, then let it extend out from the end of the barrel enough to anchor you cotton wool (or whatever) without sagging....you should get 360* effect if the smoke and flame is thin enough.

goldhammer

Thought just hit me....how about some fiber optic for the barrels.  Painted on the outside wouldn'tshow the light, but should give enough off the end to light up just enough.

 

For me, that is the idea, and I plan to use brass barrels so the brass should be able to hold the light. Please bare with me, this will take me some time to get a prototype built. And I still have to start my British Flag build, which now may end up with this effect too. 

Thought just hit me....how about some fiber optic for the barrels.  Painted on the outside wouldn't show the light, but should give enough off the end to light up just enough.

modelcrazy

 

 

Bakster

Will you be doing a water dio too? I hope you do!

 

 

But of course.

 

 

Bakster

In 700th scale the guns are DANG small. I would typically run the wires through the guns to conceal them, not sure that is doable at this scale.

 

 

 

Gamera

hat sounds FRIGGIN' AWESOME!!!  Sorry to shout but I am inspired... 

LOL. Again, dang it!

hogfanfs

I've had the same thoughts, but I think 1/350 would be much easier than 1/700. I'm going to be doing some lighting testing soon on some Star Wars Bandai kits. Hopefully, this will enlighten me enough on the complexity of lighting the guns on a ship.

That sound great, HF. Yeah, I'd think 1/350 should be easier in terms of wiring it. There might be a possible advantage with the 1/700, that being scale. On the smaller ship one LED could really light up a gun plume. Smaller scale, smaller plume to light up. I could be wrong, just kind of rings to make sence. Either way it will be an interesting project.

Gamera

I have seen people do the muzzle flashs and smoke from battleship guns with cotton wool and paint but so far not seen anything try to use LEDs. 

I really want to see how this goes. 

 

I have seen people do the muzzle flashs and smoke from battleship guns with cotton wool and paint but so far not seen anything try to use LEDs. 

I really want to see how this goes. 

I'll definitely be watching that to see how it goes on lighting a 1/700.

The Admiral is going to go through a good supply of acrylic gel on a 1/350 NC.

This is going to be a great time for all of us.

Bakster

 You know what I'd really like to do? I'd love to do a water dio but with the added element of the guns firing. Like how you had made the gun turret flame on the tank you built? Similar to that, only more like a ball of flame. It looks doable. I think that the biggest problem is concealing the wires. In 700th scale the guns are DANG small. I would typically run the wires through the guns to conceal them, not sure that is doable at this scale.

I've had the same thoughts, but I think 1/350 would be much easier than 1/700. I'm going to be doing some lighting testing soon on some Star Wars Bandai kits. Hopefully, this will enlighten me enough on the complexity of lighting the guns on a ship.

Bakster

Will you be doing a water dio too? I hope you do!

But of course.

Bakster

In 700th scale the guns are DANG small. I would typically run the wires through the guns to conceal them, not sure that is doable at this scale.

Bakster

Bakster

I am thinking a possible diorama on the Wisconsin build. What’s with me and dioramas!

 

 

Really  Water?

 

Steve--I thought I'd move the conversation to your GB  thread.  Yes sir, a water dio. I am waffling back and forth on it but I'll probably end up doing it. Will you be doing a water dio too? I hope you do!

You know what I'd really like to do? I'd love to do a water dio but with the added element of the guns firing. Like how you had made the gun turret flame on the tank you built? Similar to that, only more like a ball of flame. It looks doable. I think that the biggest problem is concealing the wires. In 700th scale the guns are DANG small. I would typically run the wires through the guns to conceal them, not sure that is doable at this scale.

Anyway--those are a few ideas rolling around in my noggin.

PS: Last night I worked on cleaning up my bench from the X1 build. My bench is cleaned up and ready to go. I also cracked open the model kit for first looks.

 

 

That sounds FRIGGIN' AWESOME!!! 

Sorry to shout but I am inspired... 

Bakster

I am thinking a possible diorama on the Wisconsin build. What’s with me and dioramas!

Really  Water?

Steve--I thought I'd move the conversation to your GB  thread.  Yes sir, a water dio. I am waffling back and forth on it but I'll probably end up doing it. Will you be doing a water dio too? I hope you do!

You know what I'd really like to do? I'd love to do a water dio but with the added element of the guns firing. Like how you had made the gun turret flame on the tank you built? Similar to that, only more like a ball of flame. It looks doable. I think that the biggest problem is concealing the wires. In 700th scale the guns are DANG small. I would typically run the wires through the guns to conceal them, not sure that is doable at this scale.

Anyway--those are a few ideas rolling around in my noggin.

PS: Last night I worked on cleaning up my bench from the X1 build. My bench is cleaned up and ready to go. I also cracked open the model kit for first looks.

That's an excelent idea GH. What a beautiful display that would make.

I don't have a place for her either.  Asking our state VA main office if they would take her as a permanent display, and explaining what boat it will represent.  Still going to have to get another plaque made for the base.

That whole project looks fun GH. I had a chance to win that monster as a door prize at EagleQuest but didn't drop enough on the tickets to qualify. I figured I did't have to room for it or the 1/200 Arizona that was also there.

Just got an email that my deck "hardware" has shipped from Shapeways.

Was looking at the hull halves....going to be fun making the supports and epoxying them in for the finial mounts.  

Got 8 bottles of Tamiya XF-69 a year ago in preparation for painting the monster.

Thanks for the info GM.  The box and instructions are in Japanese and several other asian languages, no English, but the kit does look really well molded.  Not a lot of surface details, but I have a lot of PE to add that sort of stuff.  

I agree GM, especially with some PE you can make a 1/700 look good. I just still really like 350 but have a ton of 700 as well. You're right about the space though.

modelcrazy

It's hard to tell from the box Scott but I'll bow to GM's knowlage and put it down as a Fujimi.

The world of 1/700 ship models started in Japan. There is a famous Waterline Series, which was originally a collaborative effort by Tamiya, Aoshima, Hasegawa and Fujimi.

At some point Fujimi split off, and started boxing kits under the Sea Way Model label.

Pit-Road is another Japanese company, and now Dragon and Trumpeter the Chinese companies are in. I've built a Tamiya kit that was a rebox of a Pit-Road kit, and am working on a Dragon kit that is also an ex Pit-Road kit. They in turn have a brand named Skywave.

I always thought I'd skip this scale as it's pretty small, but I now love it. The models take up so much less space, cost a lot less, and build up much more quickly. And with few exceptions they are all high quality.

 it is the 1/196 scale kit....

I also looked at my Arizona kit, and I'm gonna add it.  The hull and main deck are assembled, but in a terribly messy way, so I am gonna fix all that!

GMorrison

 

 

Justinryan215

An open ended group build?  That's right up my galley!  

I will probably go with Revell's USS Constitution.  

 

 

 

Awesome! Which kit?