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Posted by Ted4321 on Friday, June 28, 2019 12:20 PM

I'll join and will also be dragging anchor.  It will be my first ship build and first attempt at PE.

Trumpeter 1:350 uss england.

T e d

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, June 28, 2019 11:44 AM

The Very model? The reviews are good and it comes with a lot of brass. 

I would still look at 1/700.  The law of cubes dictates that when you double the scale, the actual size of the object increases eight fold. 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by GAF on Friday, June 28, 2019 11:42 AM

Steve,

I normally don't do ship models, but this is one I may have to join because it is a project I've been wanting to try.  So put me down for a scratch-built USN CCB (Command and Communication Boat) from the Vietnam Brown Water Navy.  I'm not sure what scale yet, as it depends on what Vietnam era figures I can get for the model.  If you have any suggestions, let me know.  All the existing CCB models are made from resin and way too expensive for my pay grade!  You know (from the Race Into Space GB) that I like to scrounge! Big Smile

This is a subject kinda close to me as my brother served as radio operator on a CCB in Vietnam operating out of Dong Tam.  In February of 1969, his boat was hit by a mortar round and he was severely wounded.  He survived and received an honorable discharge because of his wounds.  He is well and alive today, and I want to build a model of the boat he served on.

Of course he doesn't remember what the boat number was, or even what Division he was assigned to.  Guess it wasn't that important at the time.  I need to do some research before I can begin to put something together.  This one will take some time.

Gary

PS> Put it down as 1/48th scale.  That will make her 15 inches long.  That's plenty big.  Will be searching for weapons.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 28, 2019 11:20 AM

Gamera

Thanks Bill! 

I'd be half-tempted to try one of the 1/350th since I've got a pile of photos of the 'Wisky' from various visits except that I can't seem to finish even a 1/35th tank or 1/48th aircraft. No way I need to take on a project that big.  

 

Thanks Gam.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 28, 2019 11:18 AM

Thanks Bill, excellent input. What do know about the 1:350 scale model I posted on today?

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 28, 2019 11:00 AM

Thanks Bill! 

I'd be half-tempted to try one of the 1/350th since I've got a pile of photos of the 'Wisky' from various visits except that I can't seem to finish even a 1/35th tank or 1/48th aircraft. No way I need to take on a project that big.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, June 28, 2019 10:37 AM

Bakster

Okay, here is question 1. I just found out the local hobby shop as an Atlantis 1:535 USS Wisconsin BB-64 battleship in stock. This is an old 60s kit. That being the case, old technolgy that made it. I did some research on the Trumpeter and it seems to be built pretty well. 

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  No pressure, just inquiring.

 

According to scalemates it's the umpteenth rebox of the Revell USS Missouri, I believe the oldest plastic ship model Revell ever released, around 1953; and probably one of the oldest plastic ship kits, period. Just a new name.

Just to put that in context, it was already almost a decade old when Revell released the USS Arizona.

There is a good selection of brass and 3D aftermarket, if only because it's been a popular kit for decades now. I wouldn't personally be interested though. Built OOB it's now pretty much a toy. I built a few of them when I was a kid.

I'm no expert on anything, least of all the Iowas, but I'm sure that there are differences between BB-61 and 64, most probably the bridge and secondary armament. 

As for decals, there wouldn't be much, other than the name and hull number and those are not too hard to find.

The Trumpeter 1/700 kit of the Missouri seems to be a re-issue of the Pit Road kit from back when. Those kits have their own issues, but are nice models when a little care goes into them. 

I'd be tempted to build that one. just decide on whether you want it WW2 or modernized.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 28, 2019 10:36 AM

Bakster

Gam, you mentioned a 350th scale available, which got me searching. 

Tempting... what a labor of love this would be.

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ridge-Models-Wisconsin-Version/dp/B07KGJSYJ8 

 

Oh wow, I was looking at the Veryfire kit. Looks like you may have a choice if you chose to go with 1/350th. 

https://hlj.com/1-350-scale-u-s-navy-battleship-uss-wisconsin-bb-64-vrfvfm350912

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 28, 2019 10:18 AM

Gam, you mentioned a 350th scale available, which got me searching. 

Tempting... what a labor of love this would be.

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ridge-Models-Wisconsin-Version/dp/B07KGJSYJ8

 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:11 PM

modelcrazy

 

 
Gamera
Unless you're doing a vintage build I'm not sure I'd even mess with the old Atlantis kit. With the new Trumpeter 1/350th one and there has to be a newer 1/700th kit out there I'd go with one of them. Plus the wierd scale will make it hard to find parts if you decide to add any aftermarket. 

 

Ditto

 

Yep, you confirmed my concerns exactly. More potential problems, and who knows if the decals will be any good. Just wanted to check because once and a while the older kits got it right.

Thanks for the input.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:59 AM

Gamera
Unless you're doing a vintage build I'm not sure I'd even mess with the old Atlantis kit. With the new Trumpeter 1/350th one and there has to be a newer 1/700th kit out there I'd go with one of them. Plus the wierd scale will make it hard to find parts if you decide to add any aftermarket. 

Ditto

Steve

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:33 AM

Bakster

Okay, here is question 1. I just found out the local hobby shop as an Atlantis 1:535 USS Wisconsin BB-64 battleship in stock. This is an old 60s kit. That being the case, old technolgy that made it. I did some research on the Trumpeter and it seems to be built pretty well. 

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  No pressure, just inquiring.

 

Unless you're doing a vintage build I'm not sure I'd even mess with the old Atlantis kit. With the new Trumpeter 1/350th one and there has to be a newer 1/700th kit out there I'd go with one of them. Plus the wierd scale will make it hard to find parts if you decide to add any aftermarket. 

Oh, and my apologies- it's Wisconsin- for some reason I keep wanting to add an 'o' in there to spell Wisconsion... Dunce 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:08 AM

goldhammer

I'm in way deeper than oars....need the bilge pump and bailing buckets, and that probably wont be enough. 

Lol.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:06 AM

Okay, here is question 1. I just found out the local hobby shop as an Atlantis 1:535 USS Wisconsin BB-64 battleship in stock. This is an old 60s kit. That being the case, old technolgy that made it. I did some research on the Trumpeter and it seems to be built pretty well. 

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  No pressure, just inquiring.

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:02 AM

I'm in way deeper than oars....need the bilge pump and bailing buckets, and that probably wont be enough.

 

Dug the Gato out and found the 20's, wrong base mounts on them, but don't think my scratch work will sufice to deal with it, so they may keep the "cone" bases rather than the open mounts.  And no 5 incher, now remembering that he had issues making it then and I never reordered it that I remember.  Have to go back in and see if still available.

**EDIT**  Have to reorder the 20's, now available with the Mk10 bases.  He makes a 1/350 5"/51, have to see if he worked out the bugs on the 1/72.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:57 AM

modelcrazy

Bakster and Gam, don't worry bout it. This GB is for newbies more that for us sea dogs who already have one in the shipyard at all times.

Any questions just ask.

 

Great to hear. Thank you Admiral.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:55 AM

Gamera

Steve:I think the four Iowa class battleships are pretty much the same though. So walking around the 'Mo' is close to the same as the 'Wisky'. I looked and only the 'Mo' and 'Wisky' got the late '80s era missile launchers so there is that difference between them and the 'Iowa' and 'New Jersey'. 

Bakster: I haven't built a ship kit since I was a youngster. This is going to be interesting... 

I'll have to go though the stash and see what I've got. I know a 1/700th 'U.S.S. Yorktown' I picked up in the museum giftshop after touring the carrier. A 1/700th LST that my uncle served aboard during the Second World War. And a 1/350th Dragon modern missile cruiser that I toured during the IPMS Nationals when they were held in Virginia Beach/Norfolk. 

 

Ok then, we are in the same boat! Get the oars out..

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:54 AM

Bakster and Gam, don't worry bout it. This GB is for newbies more that for us sea dogs who already have one in the shipyard at all times.

Any questions just ask.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:34 AM

Steve:I think the four Iowa class battleships are pretty much the same though. So walking around the 'Mo' is close to the same as the 'Wisky'. I looked and only the 'Mo' and 'Wisky' got the late '80s era missile launchers so there is that difference between them and the 'Iowa' and 'New Jersey'. 

Bakster: I haven't built a ship kit since I was a youngster. This is going to be interesting... 

I'll have to go though the stash and see what I've got. I know a 1/700th 'U.S.S. Yorktown' I picked up in the museum giftshop after touring the carrier. A 1/700th LST that my uncle served aboard during the Second World War. And a 1/350th Dragon modern missile cruiser that I toured during the IPMS Nationals when they were held in Virginia Beach/Norfolk. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:46 AM

Gamera

Interesting picks... I've actually walked around on the U.S.S. North Carolina, Alabama, and the Wisconsion... Wink 

It’s fate, brother Gamera. It is a sign that the winds of this GB shall be fair and blessed.

Yes, the badges look good!

Like the ominous firepower of these ships, we have an impressive group of ship builders here, myself excluded. This is my first warship. As being the greenhorn, I will look to you folks for advice along the way. 

I hope you guys will not annoyed by my dragging anchor. Surprise 

Looking forward to the build!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:26 AM

Gamera

Interesting picks... I've actually walked around on the U.S.S. North Carolina, Alabama, and the Wisconsion... Wink

 

The badges look good! Yes

 

The only big gal I walked was the Mo, moored behind the Arizona, fitting tribute IMO. Drove past the Bama while driving a Simi, couldn't stop, just saw it from the road Super Angry

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:22 AM

GMorrison

Out of a big stash of models; I'd list the three most probable:

1/700 Niko Resin Brooklyn Class Light Cruiser

1/700 Dragon CVL USS Monterey

1/700 Dragon Cleveland Class Light Cruiser

One of the Lt Cruisers would be great to see.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:16 AM

Interesting picks... I've actually walked around on the U.S.S. North Carolina, Alabama, and the Wisconsion... Wink

 

The badges look good! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:24 AM

Out of a big stash of models; I'd list the three most probable:

1/700 Niko Resin Brooklyn Class Light Cruiser

1/700 Dragon CVL USS Monterey

1/700 Dragon Cleveland Class Light Cruiser

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:08 AM

Saw the badges, they're great.  Don't know how much of all that brass I'll end up using.  Doubt I'll use the hull plating but might use the decking but that's tbd.   I think I gave around$60 for it.

The 144 shears gave me fits until I finally tossed them.  At least this time they're twice the size

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:37 PM

BTW, I also have the badges up as well.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:35 PM

goldhammer
Have the complete Big Ed PE and brass props and the 5" and 20mm's from shapeways.

That had to set you back.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:59 PM

Lol.  Hoping it will find a home in the state veterans office in Salem.  They have a few items in a display area and case in the main lobby.  She is a monster at 52 inches long, may have to break out the old autobody paint gun for it.

Have the complete Big Ed PE and brass props and the 5" and 20mm's from shapeways.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:25 PM

OK crew, I got you down.

GH, I didn't realize what you signed up with until I added you Yes You're going to need that RV to keep in in when you're done. Wink

Bruce, Ooo, I want that one.

Bakster, I look forward to that one. I want it as well.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:09 PM

I am from Wisconsin, so I might as well build the USS Wisconsin.

 

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