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                        AIRCRAFT, ARMOR, FIGURES, SHIPS - D-Day Group Build, 5-8 June 1944

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 30, 2004 5:29 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by thundergod

                        So I got this Question and it is was there british fireflies on D-day?


                        From a book ive got (sorry to those that are against research books) Sherman Firefly by Mark Hayward

                        "The Firefly did not come ashore in Normandy in the first wave of the assault due to the inability to be converted to DD configeration, because of the long 17-pdr gun interfering with the collapsible screen. Second wave units certainly had them and they were seen ashore very soon after the landings."

                        "Probably the first to see combat alongside DD and other 75mm Shermans were the VCs of the Staffordshire Yeomanry. They ran into the 21st Panzer Division's assault towards the British beaches near Caen on the afternoon of 6th June"

                        theres more in the book but i dont want to be linched Big Smile [:D]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:06 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by thundergod
                        1st krechowiecki armored reg.This one comes with the sheet I got with the turret along with 1st east riding yeomanry 27th armored brig.which has all an american star in the middle of a circle so did the brits use the star?


                        From my research it seems that the white star started out as an American symbol but was eventually adopted as an 'Allied' recognition marker, used by both the American and Commonwealth armies.

                        As a somewhat humourous side note I also found reference to Canadian units having a tendency to apply their stars rotated slightly off centre so as to distinguish themselves from Americans. I guess some things never change Smile [:)]
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:47 AM
                        I am officially counting down the days, counting today...


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                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 30, 2004 6:42 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeeves
                        there is a special D-Day issue from Time for $11--

                        Jeeves:
                        thanx 4 the heads-up !
                        i only found the regular issue (which has a D-Day cover & some good stuff) for $3.95
                        is the special issue all D-Day stuff,
                        & is it large format or the same size as usual ?

                        frostySmile [:)]


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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:49 AM
                        Rob I found this strange as well, A firefly with american and british markings, the other set is a no go they are the krechowieki 1st armored regiment dont have a digicam handy right now or I would show ya. these are the micro scale decals that came from CMD with the turret. I do appreciate your help. welp back to bogies.
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:17 AM
                        Thanks, now i know where to pick it up!
                        John
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                        philp
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                        • From: USA
                        Posted by philp on Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:10 AM
                        Guys,
                        I also have the Time D-Day book. Picked it up at Walmart for $9.89. Regular price is $10.99. It is very nice. I also saw it as a Hardcover version for $24.99 and our local Media Play (kind of like Barnes & Noble or Borders) had it on sale for $19.99.
                        Good luck on your builds.
                        Phil Peterson IPMS #8739 Join the Map http://www.frappr.com/finescalemodeler
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                        rebelreenactor
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                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:59 AM
                        Sorry to see you go Edog.

                        Will- I will try to get that book magzine thing that jeeves has and then i will scan it.
                        John
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                        shermanfreak
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:37 AM
                        Ron - Just to confirm, it does sound like you have a set of old DML Firefly markings, though the star and the name St George kind of throw me off a bit.

                        The Canadian markings for the 27th C.A.R. (Sherbrooke Fusilier Regiment) are good to go for D-day. They landed on June 6 and fought around Buron on the 7th.

                        The markings for the Northamptonshire Yeomanry may be able to be used for D-day too. But I've been unable to confirm their landing.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        shermanfreak
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:12 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by thundergod

                        The decals I have actually came with the turret and accesseries I dont have the originals (wish I did) which are the 27th canadian armoered regiment, a captured by german army, 3 troop, A squad(the 007 killer),

                        1st krechowiecki armored reg.This one comes with the sheet I got with the turret along with 1st east riding yeomanry 27th armored brig.which has all an american star in the middle of a circle so did the brits use the star? The tank name is St. George tank number 2, I dont seee the one you are talking about.


                        Hmmmmm .... let me check and see what you have there ... I'll get back to you.
                        It sounds as if you have the old DML marking set.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 29, 2004 5:12 PM
                        The decals I have actually came with the turret and accesseries I dont have the originals (wish I did) which are the 27th canadian armoered regiment, a captured by german army, 3 troop, A squad(the 007 killer),

                        1st krechowiecki armored reg.This one comes with the sheet I got with the turret along with 1st east riding yeomanry 27th armored brig.which has all an american star in the middle of a circle so did the brits use the star? The tank name is St. George tank number 2, I dont seee the one you are talking about.
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                        shermanfreak
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:50 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by thundergod

                        Thanks Rob for looking on the vc I figured youd come to the rescue seeing its a sherman.


                        No problem .... IIRC, the Vc that you have is the DML offering and comes with a set of decals for the 13/18 Royal Hussars who were involved with the landings on D-Day itself. I think you have the markings for "Carole".

                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 11:50 PM
                        Thanks Rob for looking on the vc I figured youd come to the rescue seeing its a sherman.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 8:44 PM
                        Well I havent gotten to the grocery store yet so could one of you guys scan it for me?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 8:13 PM
                        I am sorry guys, but I think I had better pull out of this build for now. I was going to do a Marder III M with a few of you, but I think I have too many other projects to finish up before I start one more kit. Once again, sorry…Disapprove [V]
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                        Jeeves
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                        • From: Saratoga Springs, NY
                        Posted by Jeeves on Friday, May 28, 2004 7:53 PM
                        Oh...and more importantly...no ads Wink [;)]
                        Mike
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                        Jeeves
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                          February 2003
                        • From: Saratoga Springs, NY
                        Posted by Jeeves on Friday, May 28, 2004 7:49 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor


                        I just looked on page 60 of the time magazine, and didn't see the picture. i did see a picture of a rager who scaled point du hoc but that is it. Is there more that on magazine?

                        to clear this up i will descrbe mine, and you (jeeves) tell me if it is like yours.
                        Mine has 89 pages counting the ads.
                        3 articles on D-Day.
                        And when you open up the cover you see a picture of a red car.
                        is this the same magazine?


                        Sorry bro-- this isn't the same thing. It's called D-Day 24 Hours that Saved the World with an Introduction by Tom Hanks. At 154 pages, it's more of a book really than a magazine. The picture is actually of an artifact at the D-Day museum...maybe you could email the museum and have them send you a pic of it?
                        Mike
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                        shermanfreak
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, May 28, 2004 6:14 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by thundergod

                        So I got this Question and it is was there british fireflies on D-day?


                        Firefly Vc were used during the landings .... I'll need to root through some of my references to confirm if they went in on D-Day or D+1 or D+2.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, May 28, 2004 5:26 PM
                        Shermanfreak, ur in.

                        I just looked on page 60 of the time magazine, and didn't see the picture. i did see a picture of a rager who scaled point du hoc but that is it. Is there more that on magazine?

                        to clear this up i will descrbe mine, and you (jeeves) tell me if it is like yours.
                        Mine has 89 pages counting the ads.
                        3 articles on D-Day.
                        And when you open up the cover you see a picture of a red car.
                        is this the same magazine?
                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 5:17 PM
                        Thanks rebelreenactor.
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, May 28, 2004 5:06 PM
                        For the couror of dirt imnot sure, but i can make some guesses. The weather was wet and cold, and it is on the coast. so probably a darker color.

                        I got the time magazine and i was wondering what page has the grappling hooks on it, so i can scan it.
                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 3:30 PM
                        Thundergod I think there was but I know there were DD tanks and the funnies so I'm pretty sure ther was.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 11:13 AM
                        Does anyone know what colour the earth would be around Juno Beach? I'm going to be doing a dirt road as part of my diorama and would like to make it as realistic as possible. Thanks.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 10:21 AM
                        So I got this Question and it is was there british fireflies on D-day?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 7:41 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeeves

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by ddayomaha

                        i haven't found any pics of those grappling hooks(ponte Du Hoc) yet does any body have any ?


                        Hey bro-- go to your local supermarket or store right now (actually- this is good advice for all in the group build)-- there is a special D-Day issue from Time for $11-- it is awesome and on page 60 is a picture and little caption of your grappling hook...if I had a scanner I'd scan it in for you..but the whole thing is the best issue I've seen on the 60th anniversary...although I haven't gotten my FSM yet LOL


                        thanks Jeeves! No off to my local Jewel...Oh sorry I forgot Jewel trademarked...Off to my local food product grocery store.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 7:34 AM
                        Jeeves & Rebel: Thanks for the clarification & reassurance. I'm new to the forum as you can probably tell & I haven't quite learned the ropes yet. So..... one Hawker Typhoon coming right up. In about a month, that is.
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:50 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by shermanfreak

                        Count me in John ..... I probably have too many other builds on the go, but what the hey.

                        I'll be doing an M4 Sherman as it looked when it hit the beaches on D+1.



                        A Sherman? Boy I never suspected...Wink [;)]. You are full of surprises.Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

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                        shermanfreak
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                        Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:30 PM
                        Count me in John ..... I probably have too many other builds on the go, but what the hey.

                        I'll be doing an M4 Sherman as it looked when it hit the beaches on D+1.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        rebelreenactor
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                          October 2003
                        • From: Clovis, Calif
                        Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:15 PM
                        i'll see if i can get it and get it scanned.
                        John
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                        Jeeves
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                          February 2003
                        • From: Saratoga Springs, NY
                        Posted by Jeeves on Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:58 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by ddayomaha

                        i haven't found any pics of those grappling hooks(ponte Du Hoc) yet does any body have any ?


                        Hey bro-- go to your local supermarket or store right now (actually- this is good advice for all in the group build)-- there is a special D-Day issue from Time for $11-- it is awesome and on page 60 is a picture and little caption of your grappling hook...if I had a scanner I'd scan it in for you..but the whole thing is the best issue I've seen on the 60th anniversary...although I haven't gotten my FSM yet LOL
                        Mike
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