HELICOPTERS - UH60 (Black)(Pave) Hawk (OPEN END)

Nevermind not thinking of me Trigger74.
Could you please send me the .psd file, so I can do what YOU should have done!!!Thanks!

albymoore welcome! If I guessed your quote right, you like Stagate SG-1.

Trigger,
There are six(?) pics of Prime Chance Greyhawks in the SEAL book, but they're all b&w. As for OPC Greyhawks, I couldn't find anything on them either. Even the reading material is vague at best.

Avus
Hopefully that e-mailed .psd corrected my earlier oversight.

Adrake
I'll keep an eye out for a Grayhawk and if I find anything I'll share it.

Hi Trigger,
Great looking Yanshuf GB banner! Thank you!

Last night was spent adding some Eduard photo-etched goodies to the cockpit, I'll take a pic and post it later on today when I get home from work. I hope to have the cockpit and troop area ready for paint this weekend. My big query right now is finding out what type of gun(s) the Israelis arm their Blackhawks with. I'm not sure if they use the same type found on other H-60/S-70 variants or if they arm them with indegenious made weapons. I'm hoping they carry 7.62 M134 Miniguns, as that would look tough.

Cheers,
Albert

Thanks Trigger74!

As you can see I made my badge, but I don't know if I'll keep it because you can hardly see the helo.
On the other hand it is the picture that inspired the diorama I want to make (as you said before Trigger).
What do you guys think: is it appropriate as a GB badge?

Yup, that's the shot I remember and that's pretty close to the cropping I would have used (I would have pulled back a little, but that's just me). Looks fine to me.

I sent you two psd files? Man, I need a vacation BAD!

I started on mine last night, applying Eduard and Cobra Co. details. There's not much I can do until I clean up my work bench. I'll post some pix up this weekend.

At the moment I haven't done as much as I would liked. I'm working in the cockpit, but I do not follow the same sequence as in the manual, so for me that is not step 4, but step 2.
I'll post my first pics, somewhere during the weekend.

btw, mine will be without AM.

QUOTE: Originally posted by DanCooper At the moment I haven't done as much as I would liked. I'm working in the cockpit, but I do not follow the same sequence as in the manual, so for me that is not step 4, but step 2. I'll post my first pics, somewhere during the weekend. btw, mine will be without AM.

There are steps and sequences?

Yeah, but I guess that's because they can't print the instruction multi-layerd on the paper

Here's my first in-prog pic. I may remove the seat mounts and attempt to make new mounts from styrene rod, just have to get past my laziness. Seeing as the doors will be closed, I'm not sure if it will be worth it.



Cheers,
Albert

And yes... the first pic has arrived, good start Albert, you're already a head of me , I hope to be able to post my first pic tomorrow...

To the hawk-builders ......

I don't know if this is right for all the Hawk-variaties, but in the Academy-kit for the Pave-Hawk there are three antennas namely the vertical front of the gunners, the horizontal on the left tailboom, and the dish aft the rotor assembly.
The instructions say to install all three of the antennas but only one should be installed because in reality, they are just improvements, when they installed a new type, the older one was removed

Well, here is my first pic. I haven't got much yet, but I'm always slow in the beginning

QUOTE: Originally posted by DanCooper To the hawk-builders ...... I don't know if this is right for all the Hawk-variaties, but in the Academy-kit for the Pave-Hawk there are three antennas namely the vertical front of the gunners, the horizontal on the left tailboom, and the dish aft the rotor assembly. The instructions say to install all three of the antennas but only one should be installed because in reality, they are just improvements, when they installed a new type, the older one was removed

Yeah, I think that has something to do with the block standards, at least on the USAF's HH-60Gs doesn't it? I'll have to look thru my notes.

I picked up Squadron's UH-60 Walk Around yesterday, but haven't had a chance to go thru it. Also ya'll might want to look out for a book from Steve Tomajczyk simply titled "Black Hawk." It's pretty current and covers all of the American S-70 variants - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0760315914/qid=1094520262/sr=ka-2/ref=pd_ka_2/103-2513527-3964642

QUOTE: don't know if this is right for all the Hawk-variaties, but in the Academy-kit for the Pave-Hawk there are three antennas namely the vertical front of the gunners, the horizontal on the left tailboom, and the dish aft the rotor assembly. The instructions say to install all three of the antennas but only one should be installed because in reality, they are just improvements, when they installed a new type, the older one was removed

Dan, Im not sure this is correct, at least as far as US Army 60s go. Im a hawk fixer in the Army and heres what I know. The gunners window antennae is the DF ant. and is on all hawks. The ant running the length of the tail cone is the HF ant and is being installed as an MWO on all the fleet and the"dish" ant on the APU doors is installed on some birds as required, so they all have different purposes and arent removed.
Mog

In the Block 152 USAF Pave Hawks, "The flush mounted VHF/FM antenna on the leading edge of the vertical tail was deleted along with the VHF/FM homing antennas located aft of the pilot and co-pilot's doors (black vertical towel rack looking antenna). These were deleted due to the instalation of a new VHF-AM/FM whip antenna on top of the vertical tail, and is easily distinguishable due to the lack of black paint on the forward leading edge of the vertical fin (even though some of the fin leading edges are still painted black even when the antenna has been removed)."

and...

"SATCOM was also added, and in future Pavehawks I'm told that the HF antenna along the left lower tail boom (long towel rack) will be removed due to SATCOM taking over the long range secure Comm role"

(Many thanks to Salbando for that info.)

That's why Mogwa's seeing somethine else on his Hawks. BTW - Mogwa, are you participating in this buid?

FYI - The NYANG's 106th RQS will be featured on the Discovery Wings channel this week:

"Last Hope at Sea"
Tuesday, Sept. 14, at 9 p.m.
Repeat: Wednesday, Sept. 15 at 8 am

http://wings.discovery.com/tuneins/lasthope.html

Should get so see plenty of Pave Hawks, Herks and PJs in action

To bad we don't have the discovery-channel here

I didn't get much work done last weekend since it was a holiday here in the States. Tried to make up for it this past weekend. Pix are a little poor since I was borrowing a new digital camera and trying to work out the bugs in it.


-Aft view of cockpit. Dry fitting the aft console and seats. Seats, center and aft console are from the Cobra Company Pave Hawk detail kit. I'm going to have some trouble fitting the right seat's collective. The black is Tamiya's NATO black, which while not as light as Aircraft Interior Black, has a slight off-black tint to it and is slightly faded. It looks great on my 1/72 MH-101's rotor blades There's going to be a lot of dry-brushing in here too.


- Forward view of the same. I'll paint/detail the seats, collective and consoles each individually before installing them. Space is tight and I'm wondering if my helicopter crew will fit inside. After I'm done up front, I'll finish up the aft cabin.


- Interior Ceiling. I've begun detailing it with sheet styrene, strip styrene and Eduard's photoetch details. Will cut out holes in some area of the top and box off those areas. Not sure if I'll install wire clusters or not. Very complex area that I'm not looking forward to detailing but hopefully should be worth the effort.
- Tail Rotor. Basically this is assembled. There may be a few Eduard's parts to install, but I'll probably paint it this week.
- Main Rotor Head. Dry fit here, most assembly and some detailing completed. This is more complex than the tail rotor, but hope to have this done within the next week or two, including painting.
- Cowling, fore and aft. Installed Eduard's details.


- Fuselage. Some photo-etched details


- Interior Fuel Tank. My first big mistake - the 210th RQS usually flies with only one of these installed, not both. Good news is, I can steal the parts from my DAP kit to make a single tank with.

I know I said that I'd post some pics, but i'm trying to complete my Hind before starting on the Pavehawk. If all goes well i should be done this week-end.

BTW next week i should get those ammo chutes I've been waiting for!
Keeping my fingers crossed!

Okay, I'm done with the cockpit now I just need to finish the rest. I just need to do some more drybrushing and I'll jump over to the rotors.

I'VE GOT THEM ... I'VE GOT THEM!
Today I got my ammo chutes!!!
Now I'll have to catch up with you guys. Maybe this sunday I'll get the Pavehawk out of the box again and continue my work on it.
BTW nice work Trigger74 and balta1.

Thanks Avus

I was down in Atlanta this past weekend and I saw some of your unit-of-choice's herks and Hawks sitting out the latest hurricane on the Dobbins ramp. I couldn't tell the Hawk's colors from the angle and distance, but was still cool nontheless.

I finally found my resin front control panel, so that little delay can be overcome and I can get back in gear...

Looking around i stumbled on a Blackhawk Crew (in 1/35):



It's made by a french company Nemrod; their page is here:
www.historex.com

Thought this might iterest some of you. With some modifications they coud fit my diorama.

Those are cool, they'd work better than the old DML Helicoptor crew. Have you ever bought from them before?

Hey Trigger,
Just saw the post about the Antennae thing. The deal is Im talking only about regular old Army line unit 60s. The USAF is a different story. Guys like task force flying MH's could have anything on there acft, but the assualt batts get pretty much the same mods and need approval from way on high to have much else. Besides we're to poor for all that fancy stuff. hehe Anyway when is the end date for this GB ? Id like to get in, but im crunched for time at the moment. Will be better by the end of the month, so if theres enough time left I'll dive in.someone lemme know...
BTW here is a pic or two showing the distance in inches that the gear can move during a high intensity landing (crash) and in flight. Any ?s lemme know. HTH everyone

MAIN GEAR





TAIL GEAR




Thanks
Mog

Thanks a lot Mogwa!
One thing only: could you show us a bigger version of the main gear scheme. You can read "DIUS" on the left; I suppose it's "RADIUS" and that could be very helpful.

Actually I won't be using this information on this GB but for my BHD-Dio wich I will start, when ... the next year ?!

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mogwa Hey Trigger, Just saw the post about the Antennae thing. The deal is Im talking only about regular old Army line unit 60s. The USAF is a different story. Guys like task force flying MH's could have anything on there acft, but the assualt batts get pretty much the same mods and need approval from way on high to have much else. Besides we're to poor for all that fancy stuff. hehe Anyway when is the end date for this GB ? Id like to get in, but im crunched for time at the moment. Will be better by the end of the month, so if theres enough time left I'll dive in.someone lemme know... Thanks Mog

Regarding the antennae thing: Yeah, that's what I figured. I only know more about the AF -60s than the Army's birds and I didn't want to sound like I was commenting about all S-70 models.

This GB ends 1 December 04. Check out my last in progress pic post, I haven't done a whole lot since then, so if you jump on board now, you won't be the only one here playing catch up.

P.S. - I still haven't found those 'nooga airshow pix from '92, but I know I snapped a few pix of that Dustoff and some of 'em had the flight crew milling about!

Ok here it is. Click the pic. It looks much better then it does in my post.




HTH
Mog

Hey everyone, it looks like I've got to do a little housecleaning on my image server soon. Reorganize, streamline and such. How many of ya'lls S-70 GB badges are linked to that page? They may need to be re-linked and I want to minimize the hassle.

BTW - welcome aboard Mogwa