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Trigger

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February 2004
From: Moooooon River!

Posted by Trigger on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:08 PM

I'd like to point out for all those you haven't seen this yet: intruder_bass is doing a mega-super detailing of an MH-60L over on the Helicopter forum: http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42713

He's got lots of cool stuff going on over there with his build, not to mention the fact that he's actually making progress!

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DanCooper

Member since
March 2004
From: Belgium

Posted by DanCooper on Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:43 PM

Holy cow, I can't believe I missed this intry just went to see that link on the helicopter forum ; that guy is just terrible !!!

It's terrible of him to make us feel like NOOBS Big Smile [:D]

As we sometimes say in Belgium :"chapeau..." (which is actually a french word we took over, meaning : Hat)

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Monday, July 18, 2005 7:20 AM

well I figured that this GB thread needed a bump so I pulled my Hawk kits open an began the process of scratchbuilding the Medevac Kit. I have the carousel built - think that I might build another with what i have learned after the first copy. I have also opened the right pilots door and added detail to the seat( ie the side armor plates) and the 5 point harness. I have added the WSPS detail to the windscreen and have begun to install it all in the fusalage. I'll try to get some pics up this week. On my Kilo - I have put together the Robbie tanks for the cabin and the ammo system for the mini guns. I will be scratchbuilding a bunch of details for the outside of this nightstalker bird.
I have decided that the Medevac bird will represent one of ours as it was during OIF II last year, should make an interesting diorama.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, July 23, 2005 10:31 AM

blkhwkmatt,
The litter rack sounds great. Would llike to see some pics since I also plan on using the diagram you sent me to build it in 1/35 for an Academy MedEvac UH-60A. Looking forward to seeing the pics.

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blkhwkmatt

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September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Monday, July 25, 2005 2:19 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

blkhwkmatt,
The litter rack sounds great. Would llike to see some pics since I also plan on using the diagram you sent me to build it in 1/35 for an Academy MedEvac UH-60A. Looking forward to seeing the pics.

HeavyArty,

No problem, might be a few days before I have the chance to post anything due to being busy with some civilian ed. stuff right now. Never fear though I shall post some info soon.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, July 25, 2005 4:18 PM

QUOTE:
HeavyArty,

No problem, might be a few days before I have the chance to post anything due to being busy with some civilian ed. stuff right now. Never fear though I shall post some info soon.

No problem, sounds great.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, August 12, 2005 3:23 PM

High time for a progress BUMP -

Here are a couple of shots of my first attempt at the Medevac carousel config in my 1/48 hawk. I also added side armor to the pilots seat from .010 card stock and some wire and harnesses to the kit seat from foil.

Notice that it is not complete yet, some of my measurements were a bit wrong so the sides ended up too small, I will be adding more to the sides and working on the top soon.

Anything that you guys might have to say would be great to hear.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:05 AM

Outstanding work blkhwkmatt!
Could I ask for a copy the diagram of the litter. I'm working on a Pavehawk and plan make a Stokes litter to place in the cargo bay.

My progress is the following:
- Completed the PJ figures
- Completed the HGU-56 conversion (nedd to make a silicon mold)
- Completed the ammo box modification
- Started working on the fighter pilot conversion
- Started working on the cargo ceiling conversion (thanks Intruder_Bass)
(Will post pics next week end)

Klaus

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:49 PM

Great work blkhwkmatt!

My MH-60K is coming along...very slowly. Benn on holiday for the past 2 weeks, so I didn't get much of anything done then, plus I've been torturing myself with my Dragon MAZ-543. Anyway, hoping to get more progress going soon...pictures to follow!

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:41 PM

Thanks guys for the comments, I have the litter pans built somewhat - think that they may be a hair too long and dont have the handles on the ends yet but - I shall continue to slave away on it. I have the carousel installed in the cabin now and am working on the driveshaft covers that I'll be posing open to expose the driveshaft going to the intermediate gear box.

Hope to post some pics soon.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:29 PM

As promised, a progress pic. Not much at the moment, but it's something. Added the rest of the windows last night, hoping to get some seam work done tonight:

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 1:23 PM

Here's my MH-60K Blackhawk, all primed and ready to be "olived". Smile [:)]

Hoping to paint tonight, at least the top of the aircraft.

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Thursday, September 8, 2005 3:48 PM

John,

Looks good so far, cant wait to see more of your pics.

I have the basic color on my Medevac bird, will be working on the weathered, greased, etc. colors soon.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Friday, September 9, 2005 2:02 AM

Wow somebody making progress ... and what a progress!
Great work knight667!

I hope to continue my work ont the pavehawk this weekend. Let's hope that at least this time it will work out.

Klaus

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DanCooper

Member since
March 2004
From: Belgium

Posted by DanCooper on Friday, September 9, 2005 8:26 AM

Hehe, I was starting to think that this build was jinxed, but obviously at least one member is working on this.
I'll continue to work and concentrate on it, when my other projects are done, just remind me not to join GB's untill I finished this one Big Smile [:D]

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Friday, September 9, 2005 10:30 AM

Got the top half painted OD yesterday, hoping to do the underside tonight, Future tomorrow, decal on Sunday, dullcote Monday and give it to my friend (who I'm building it for) by next Friday. Big Smile [:D]

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, September 12, 2005 7:13 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by knight667

Got the top half painted OD yesterday, hoping to do the underside tonight, Future tomorrow, decal on Sunday, dullcote Monday and give it to my friend (who I'm building it for) by next Friday.

Hope it is not too late, but OD Green is not correct for a US Army helo. Standard UH-60L is US Arny Helo Drab, it is a dark green, almost black. Testor's Model Master has the color in the bottle. For a 160th SOAR MH-60K, the color should be flat black with dark OD Green markings. See Pics.

Black MH-60L/Ks

Also, the upswept ESS wings were only a prototype and never approved/purchased by US Military. All current MH-60Ks use the standard downswept ESS wings.

Helo Drab Green Prototype MH-60K

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:08 AM

Well, ratspit. Disapprove [V]

Thanks for the heads up, Gino. That's what I get for following the directions with the kit. Here's what the box art looks like, FYI:

So I'll strip off the uprights then (don't feel like scratchbuilding at all) and repaint. Looks like US Army Helo Drab is FS34031, does that sound right to you? I'm almost positive my decals are in black, unfortunately. Here's my dilemna: my LHS doesn't carry much, certainly not the MM paints in the 2000 series. I'd have to drive 40 miles to the nearest one that carries this paint. My alternative is to order it, but that's nuts to pay shipping for one bottle of paint...unless I need something else. I could order new decals from Cobra Company and do the helo in black, but it would be cheaper to order the paint. Suggestions, thoughts?

Note: whoever can guess where "Well, ratspit." came from wins two points. Big Smile [:D]

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:25 AM

I just did some more research and found these pictures:

Those look like operational helos to me...with the same sort of fuel-wings that I have on mine. Granted, my color is still wrong, but the fuel tanks look right to me...

Anyone?

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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Awood23

Member since
May 2003
From: Belgium

Posted by Awood23 on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:59 PM

Suggestion for the color Knight.... try mixing your own? should be too hard, maybe not 100% accurate but worth a try. Olive drab with liberal amounts of flat black?

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:37 PM

Sorry, the pics you have are of the test bird. See the orange probe sticking off the refueling probe, it is a test probe for airspeed, crosswind, etc. and other data. The upswept wings were not bought by the US Military.

For the Helo Drab paint, that is the correct FS #. If you can't get the MM one, you could follow Awood23 suggestion for the paint as well. If you look back through the UH-60 GB posts, I believe that someone has actually given the mix ratios to mix it yourself. If not, just post in the helo forum and someone will answer up pretty quickly.

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:47 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

Sorry, the pics you have are of the test bird. See the orange probe sticking off the refueling probe, it is a test probe for airspeed, crosswind, etc. and other data. The upswept wings were not bought by the US Military.

For the Helo Drab paint, that is the correct FS #. If you can't get the MM one, you could follow Awood23 suggestion for the paint as well. If you look back through the UH-60 GB posts, I believe that someone has actually given the mix ratios to mix it yourself. If not, just post in the helo forum and someone will answer up pretty quickly.

Gino, thanks for the confirmation on the wings; I'll rip those off tonight. I can order the paint...I guess I'll just have to order something else to hit the $10 minimum at Great Models. Big Smile [:D]

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:46 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by knight667

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

Sorry, the pics you have are of the test bird. See the orange probe sticking off the refueling probe, it is a test probe for airspeed, crosswind, etc. and other data. The upswept wings were not bought by the US Military.

For the Helo Drab paint, that is the correct FS #. If you can't get the MM one, you could follow Awood23 suggestion for the paint as well. If you look back through the UH-60 GB posts, I believe that someone has actually given the mix ratios to mix it yourself. If not, just post in the helo forum and someone will answer up pretty quickly.

Gino, thanks for the confirmation on the wings; I'll rip those off tonight. I can order the paint...I guess I'll just have to order something else to hit the $10 minimum at Great Models.

Helo Drab would look O.K., but these aircraft, Kilo models, are only used by US Spec Ops, i.e. 160th SOAR and are usually in flat black, like almost all 160th SOAR birds. You may want to get the CC SOAR decals. Send me an email and I will send you a decal file designed for 1/35 SOAR birds that Avus and I developed. All you would have to do is reduce them to 73% for 1/48 scale and print them out onto white decal paper. You have to use white so the decals do not dissappear into the black fusalage color. The decals have a black surround that hides the white decal film. I used them on my MH-60L DAP, you can see it here: http://photobucket.com/albums/v231/HeavyArty/MH-60L%20DAP/

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:52 PM

Gino, sent you an email. Thanks for your help!

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:24 AM

A little update on my progress. Didn't have much time to work last night, but I managed to rip off the wings and clean that up and then paint the helo flat black, or at least the top half. I'll turn it over this evening and paint the underside.

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:23 AM

Here's the updated pics:

Ripped the wings off, painted it black. After this pic, I painted the details (landing lights, strut shocks, etc.) and then Futured it. Hoping to decal tonight (got the Testors Decal Set over the weekend).

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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adrake2

Member since
February 2004
From: Ft. Bragg, NC

Posted by adrake2 on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:20 PM

Looks much better to me. I've always prefered the black Nightstalker paint to standard US Army Helo Drab. It just looks much more aggressive to me. My 2 cents [2c]

Thanks for the pics John.

-Aaron

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:51 PM

Looking good so far. Can't wait to see how the decals come out. Keep us posted.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 2:24 AM

Again, great work so far knight667.
I'm curious to see how the decals turn out reducing their size.
In 1/35 some of the stencils are barely readable; hope that in 1/48 they won't turn out a mess.

Klaus

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Monday, September 26, 2005 9:06 AM

Yipee!! I managed to make some progress last weekend!
Here's a pic of the cargo ceiling I'm making with help of intruder_bass' scheme.

Hope to complete it next WE.

Klaus

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HELICOPTERS - UH60 (Black)(Pave) Hawk (OPEN END)