HELICOPTERS - UH60 (Black)(Pave) Hawk (OPEN END) - FineScale Modeler - Essential magazine for scale model builders, model kit reviews, how-to scale modeling, and scale modeling products

adrake2

Member since
February 2004
From: Ft. Bragg, NC

Posted by adrake2 on Monday, September 26, 2005 5:41 PM

Looks great, Avus. Can't wait for further pics. Thumbs Up [tup]

-Aaron

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:28 AM

Okay, well...so far, I'm not that pleased with my progress on the Blackhawk. My attempt at printing my own decals failed miserably...they were completely useless and almost caused me to chuck the model across my workshop (which would have been bad). Anyway, after much pondering, I decided to go more with a "what if" scheme on this helo. Scream at me if you must, but I think it looks pretty okay.

Not the greatest pic, I was in a hurry to get out of the workshop and into bed...stayed up too late (you guys/gals know how it is!). Kitbashed the decals from my spares box. I have to say, it's my best masking job to date, but I can't take all the credit...99% of it goes to Black Magic. Big Smile [:D]

Anyway, I'll have it completed tonight for delivery to a friend on Friday (she doesn't care much what it looks like, as long as it's a Blackhawk). Constructive criticism is appreciated, but please, I know I screwed up already, so...

This is the last time I fudge on decals...next time I'll just spend the money and call Cobra!

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:42 PM

Sorry to hear you had a problem with the decal printing. What went wrong? They worked just fine for me.

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:48 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

Sorry to hear you had a problem with the decal printing. What went wrong? They worked just fine for me.

I think it was a combination of my printer (HP Deskjet 3470) and the paper (Testors).

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:20 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by knight667

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

Sorry to hear you had a problem with the decal printing. What went wrong? They worked just fine for me.

I think it was a combination of my printer (HP Deskjet 3470) and the paper (Testors).

What happened with them? What settings were you using, etc.? I have had no problems with Testors (or any other) decal papers. Explain what went wrong and maybe I can give you some pointers for next time. I print my own decals all the time and haven't had any major issues.

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:33 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

QUOTE: Originally posted by knight667

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

Sorry to hear you had a problem with the decal printing. What went wrong? They worked just fine for me.

I think it was a combination of my printer (HP Deskjet 3470) and the paper (Testors).

What happened with them? What settings were you using, etc.? I have had no problems with Testors (or any other) decal papers. Explain what went wrong and maybe I can give you some pointers for next time. I print my own decals all the time and haven't had any major issues.

Sure thing! Fed the paper in no problem, but when it printed it was kinda spider-webby looking...detail was severly lacking. Sprayed them (once dry, of course) with the Testors clear protectant that came with the Testors Decal Kit. Went to apply them and they looked awful. I'm wondering if my ink had gone bad or something like that...paper seemed find and my printers never given me any trouble before.

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:19 AM

I once (and then never again) used a white decal paper from Tauro Models (an Italian company): the ink on the surface coagulated leaving only black spots on the paper.
Now I bought Expert's Choice paper but i haven't tested it yet.

What's the resolution of your printer (I mean the dpi)?
Mine has 1200 dpi so it prints out even small details; your lack of details could be caused by that and also by the scale: as I mentioned 1/48 is smaller than 1/35 so the stencils details might get lost.

Besides that your bird looks very promising. Can't wait to see it completed!

Thanks adrake2. I'd like to make more progress but I only have Sundays to work on my helo!

Klaus

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:53 AM

Hmm, could be your printer and the resolution on it. May not have enough DPI to be able to do small items. Like I said, I have not had a problem with the Testors paper. I have a HP 6110 All-in-One Photo Printer that I use. Not sure of the DPI, but it is way up there, I can print minute things clearly.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Friday, September 30, 2005 10:19 AM

Finished the Blackhawk completely last night, and I have to say, I'm actually pretty happy with the results. Here's a few pics for you guys/gals:
Right side
Front
Right (pilot's side) detail
"Lead Slead" detail

Kit: 1/48 Academy MH-60K Special Services Blackhawk
Paints: MM enamels
AM: BlackMagic precut canopy masks
Decals: kitbashed from my spares box, including custom decals from my 1/35 ALIENS APC ("Lead Slead" and "Grrr" w/skull)

Thanks for letting me take part in the build!

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, September 30, 2005 3:05 PM

John,

Looks good to me, I like the decals that you added. Good job on the kit.

I have made very little progress on my kit, been very busy at work and kinda wrapped up in the FW190 that I have been building. Hope to make some progress on it this weekend though.

Thanks for sharing your build with us. Smile [:)]

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Saturday, October 1, 2005 3:26 AM

Great work knight667.

Agree with blkhwkmatt, the decals you chose fit perfectly on the helo.
I'm sorry the "self printing" of my decal sheet didn't work for you but anyhow you managed to make a great build.

Klaus

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 2:38 AM

Wow this thread was hard to find ... it was five pages back!!!!
Well, I managed to make some progress and have pictures to prove it.
First one shows the cargo roof third attempt; chatting with intruder_bass I decided that the first was not accurate and the second was too wide. This one should be fine.

Second shows the side walls (again thanks to intruder_bass). Only thing I realized that the curved part is to big I'll have to reduce it.

Klaus

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 9:49 AM

Beautiful work, Avus!!!

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Thursday, November 3, 2005 1:58 AM

Thanks knight667!

I'm afraid this GB is dying ... no one else posting except you and me.

Klaus

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 9:55 AM

I still have my Hokum to finish, so I'll be here for a bit longer. Big Smile [:D]

I had a GB die on me that I created...my "Fighting Ambulances" GB. Oh well, it happens. Sad [:(]

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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adrake2

Member since
February 2004
From: Ft. Bragg, NC

Posted by adrake2 on Thursday, November 3, 2005 4:41 PM

Avus,
It's looking good so far. Thanks for posting the pics. Hopefully I'll get a good digital camera from Santa this year so I can finally post some of my own.
My Prime Chance Greyhawk is nearly complete, but since I've last worked on it, I've bought an airbrush, greatly improved my modifying figures skills, and so on. I'll have to brush the dust off of it and get back to work.

-Aaron

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, November 3, 2005 10:21 PM

Avus, the roof and side bulkhead detail look great. Good job.

QUOTE: I'm afraid this GB is dying ... no one else posting except you and me.

Naw, I'm still here too. Just have to wade through a bunch of customers' build before I can get back to doing a helo. Thinking about either an early UH-60A in Grenada (for all those lower torsos from you Avus), a UH-60A MedEvac, or an MH-60G in three-tone sand camo. Decisions, decisions, decisions... Probably won't be till after the first of tehy year till I can ghet to one anyways.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Friday, November 4, 2005 1:56 AM

Success! A little provocation and the GB is back in business!

Thanks adrake2 and HeavyArty!
Hope to complete both this weekend. Next one I'll make molds since I also have a MH-60L to do and promised to some of you the cargo roof (and HGU-56 heads Wink [;)]

)

Klaus

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, November 4, 2005 5:01 AM

I'm still here as well, just been tied up with my other GB's that I have been trying to finish. I have a little more to do on those kits before I'll get back to my Medevac conversion.

Avus
The detail on your ceiling looks great!!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Monday, November 7, 2005 2:24 AM

Here's another update; this time regarding the figures that will go with the helo:
(you know the drill: click on thumbs to see full size)

I also completed the roof and the bulkheads but there is almost no difference with the previous pics.

Klaus

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DanCooper

Member since
March 2004
From: Belgium

Posted by DanCooper on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 4:29 PM

Cool, where did you get the figs ? Also, is that leadfoil you're using ?

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Avus

Member since
June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 2:21 AM

Hi Dan!

The figures are:

First one DML Modern US Marines with custom head and added med pack.

Second DML Modern US Marines legs (added BDU pockets), modified Delta torso, head from Nemrod's Blackhawk crew and the camelback is a resin copy of HobbyFan's OIF Marines.

Yes to make the straps I use lead foil either from vine bottles (we don't lack these here Wink [;)] ) or bought at LHS.

Klaus

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 6:40 PM

Avus, the figures look great. Good job. How are those heads and the roof molds coming? Can't wait to see them.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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Avus

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June 2003
From: Caput Mundi

Posted by Avus on Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:48 AM

Thanks HeavyArty!

I haven't made the molds yet since I want to make a mold of the bulkheads, too.
Once the molds are done I'll spend a week end casting for all the people who asked me for parts.

I was considering ask a company (Cobra Co. maybe) to have my parts cast professionally.

Klaus

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Trigger

Member since
February 2004
From: Moooooon River!

Posted by Trigger on Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:12 AM

Avus wrote:
Thanks knight667!

I'm afraid this GB is dying ... no one else posting except you and me.

I'm still checking in from time to time. I haven't had much time to get a workshop set in place to do any building that's more complicated than putting wing halves together. I hope to have the factory back up and running at 100% after the holidays, especially since an airbrush is high on my Christmas wish list.

------------------------------------------------------------------ - Grant "Can't let that nest in there..."

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:28 AM

Avus wrote:

Thanks HeavyArty!

I haven't made the molds yet since I want to make a mold of the bulkheads, too.
Once the molds are done I'll spend a week end casting for all the people who asked me for parts.

I was considering ask a company (Cobra Co. maybe) to have my parts cast professionally.

Sounds great. I agree that you should see if Cobra Company will cast/market them. I think they would sell.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

Check out my Gallery: https://app.photobucket.com/u/HeavyArty

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

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blkhwkmatt

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September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, February 24, 2006 2:00 PM

I'm still here as well, have been busy with a bunch of models that arent as near and dear to my heart as my medevac bird, but am still checking in from time to time!!!

oh and BTW, BUMP!!!!!

Matt

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Monday, December 18, 2006 11:00 AM

Well,

The move is complete, and my inprogress uh-60A medevac conversion survived mostly intact, however lokoing at it now I think that I'll go back and re-work some of the scratchbuilding that I have already done. I am debating adding all the wiring on the main rotor hub for the de-ice system, and some more details inside the cabin.

oh, and Bump, I found this on page 7!! Big Smile [:D]

matt

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, December 22, 2006 9:31 AM

Guess that today was pic day - here are some pics of where I stand right now. I have a bit of rebuilding to do after the slight damage from the move, but that is for another day.

and here is what I hope to have her look like in the end

I am not sure that I like the base color that I have, I want to represent a bird that is very sun faded and has all the oil/ hydraulic fluid stains/ dust of a bird in theater for a while. I have the MM Helo drab color but am not sure how to lighten it up, any suggestions?

Matt

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DanCooper

Member since
March 2004
From: Belgium

Posted by DanCooper on Friday, December 22, 2006 9:53 AM

She looks nice, Matt, despite the minor damage

I'm affraid I can't show any progress to my hawk myself, since she's been back in the box for over 6 months now, due to some other responsabilities.

Also, I might try to do something different with my kit, but that ofcourse will depend on when and how severely my wife crashes her RC Carboon (comparible with with is in the US sold under the name Hummingbird)

Have look here to see what I mean.

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