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AIRCRAFT - Mustang Ranch... P-51 Group Build--ends 12/31/04

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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, August 13, 2004 5:21 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHAAAAHHH HAAAAAAAAAAAAA Jeff, looks like'n you gotcho work cut out fer ya feller!! you best ta git you a good chaw o' tabaccy an' git busy!!

Wild Bill at' ar' za rootness tootness pony i believe i e'er did seed!! she a good un'. happy b'day friend. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, August 13, 2004 5:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

I am disappointed with the Verlinden Merlin engine. Fit is horrible and no exhaust stubs. I need to find a complete resin Merlin... where do I go??


You 'kin be dang sure I'll'a tell 'ya where'ta go, pard... Wink [;)]


Time for the Wolf to whip out an old maxim of his...

You're a modeler... DEAL WITH IT!!!! Tongue [:P]

Take that-thar steed'n rope 'em, Woodbeck; getcherself a gold tight hold and let 'em know who's the wrustler 'round 'yer parts...


Hey Pix...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, 'YA OLD GLUE SNIFFER

'Yer Stallion's lookin' mighty-fine, friend...


Jeeves, thanks for the email. I hadn't really gone through the Mustangs Mustangs site and so hadn't seen those images. I've got only a couple of that particular Mustang, so they were quite welcome additions to the collection.


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 7:20 PM
Heh wolfWink [;)]. I would and can if I had the materials but I cannot afford extra now. I'll see what I can do with the kit included parts. But for future reference where do I go to get full engine kits??
I don't think I can ever build another model without PE now... just amazing what they can do.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 7:59 PM
Well I think PE is amazing.....


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Posted by saltydog on Friday, August 13, 2004 9:30 PM
QUOTE: You 'kin be dang sure I'll'a tell 'ya where'ta go, pard...

Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Thumbs Up [tup]
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, August 13, 2004 9:51 PM
Jeff, Yep, the new sets from Eduard are amazin. Really great for lazy old guys like me.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by darson on Friday, August 13, 2004 11:19 PM
Hi Woodbeck,

For future reference, both Aires and Engines and Things do 1/48 Packard Merlins.

Darren
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Posted by saltydog on Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:08 AM
QUOTE: Really great for lazy old guys like me.


...................old, blind, and shaky!!!Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]Clown [:o)] just teasin' my ancient wonderful friend, your models always rock bubba. BTW, rock means "really good", i wasn't sure if you were up on some of the newer forms of speech!!LOL.

BTW, its plain cheating if you ask me!!Wink [;)] plus, i've never seen anything blue in any ref. photos that i have of the mustang pit. but, i've been known to be wrong once before in my life, and that wasn't my fault!!Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P] later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:34 AM
Ya alk'in to me pardner??
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 2:42 AM
Man, so many little itty bitty teeny tiny details... this bird is gonna take me a while... which is a good thing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:47 AM
Just in the nick of time, i'd like to join with a Tamiya P51D probably RAAF,i'm not sure an RAAF Mustang SQD operated out of Italy in 1945 so maybe that one,but it's definatly a P51D..........J.S
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:51 AM
Hey Chris, thanks for clearing that up. I really wasn't sure what "rock" meant. Smile [:)]. As far as being wrong once in a while, it's like I always tell my Son & Daughter ... " I only made two mistakes in my life "....

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by saltydog on Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:03 AM
Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Thumbs Up [tup] good one rick!!Wink [;)]
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Butz on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:34 PM
Hey Jeff,
The instrument panel is looking great so far..!!!! How do you like the AM stuff so far?? Well besides the engine accessories..Wink [;)]

wibhi2,
SOSDD, I hear ya.......... Same ol same ol for me!!
Flaps up, Mike


  If you would listen to everybody about the inaccuracies, most of the kits on your shelf would not have been built Too Close For Guns, Switching To Finger

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Posted by Butz on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:43 PM
Hey Scott,
WOW, I like the way your Stang turned out. What method did you use to apply the weathering??
I'm doing a Mustang from the same sqdn but its going to be in the markings of Capt perrons ship.
Flaps up,Mike

  If you would listen to everybody about the inaccuracies, most of the kits on your shelf would not have been built Too Close For Guns, Switching To Finger

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Posted by wibhi2 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Hey Chris, thanks for clearing that up. I really wasn't sure what "rock" meant. Smile [:)]. As far as being wrong once in a while, it's like I always tell my Son & Daughter ... " I only made two mistakes in my life "....

Regards, Rick


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........
Then I've only made one.....the rest are errors in judgement
3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:02 PM
I am loving these little PE parts. may not ever build another bird without them. Hey Wolf I ordered a Packard build rr merlin from engines and things, Moskit exhaust and a second order of Mr. Surfacer stuff because it seems they dont restock very often Tongue [:P]. Now thats dealing with it Approve [^]
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:06 PM
Jeff, hoe do you like the Gunze Mr. Surfacer ?

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Jeeves on Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:01 PM
Don't remember who was thinking of doing Stars Look Down-- but I saw these on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=5910961361
Mike
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

I am loving these little PE parts. may not ever build another bird without them. Hey Wolf I ordered a Packard build rr merlin from engines and things, Moskit exhaust and a second order of Mr. Surfacer stuff because it seems they dont restock very often Tongue [:P]. Now thats dealing with it Approve [^]

Well, that's not what I meant, but... Wink [;)]


Looks like I've been doing too much modeling and other stuff; haven't updated the list-o-wrustlers and have lost track of who-done-did asked to be'a part-o this here posse...

So I'll be spending a bit of time figurin' it all out and the list WILL be updated tonight...I promise... no, really...


MUSTANG RANCH GB - Town Records



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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:26 PM
Mighty fine lookin' panel you got there, woodbeck !

Ah dun started me tah paintin' the old gal today. Them thar tailplanes and wingtips is gonna be a-painted in yeller onest th' white be cured. I used me some o' that thar Model Master semi-gloss white. The nose wuz dun painted wit' Insignia Red, and anit-glare panel iz MM O.D.

Ah'm a gonna havta finish all these here colored areas, decals & topcoats & all, 'fore I kin begin ta paintin' th' 'luminum on the wings n' such. Seein's how th' fuselage iz a-gonna be dun in that thar Alcad Chrome, ah gots tah dew that last.

Here's how she's a-lookin' today, podners.


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Posted by wibhi2 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:55 PM
Now pix, why did ya do it thata way? As opposed ta t'other way round.
enquirin' minds wanna know'd.
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Posted by darson on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Just in the nick of time, i'd like to join with a Tamiya P51D probably RAAF,i'm not sure an RAAF Mustang SQD operated out of Italy in 1945 so maybe that one,but it's definatly a P51D..........J.S



J.S

3 Sqd RAAF operated the Mustang Mk.III and Mk.IV out of Italy late in the war and the Mk.IVs that were flown by 3 Sqd were P-51Ks. The only external difference between the P-51D and the P-51K (that I know of) was the propeller, the P-51K was equipped with a four-bladed Aeroproducts propeller.

Aeromaster do a decal sheet for 3 Sqd (RAF Mustangs II), but it is not accurate. The spinner should be red not blue as described. If you are looking for an Aeroproducts propeller, then check out the very nice one that Ultracast do.

Cheers
Darren
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:11 AM
Ah'm a-doin' it that way cuz ah'm a-usin' Alcad 'Luminum on the wings, which'll be dulled (n' masked). The fus 'lage is a-gettin' Alcad Chrome. Ah can't mask over th' gloss primer (even fingerprints'll show) or Chrome, so it's a-gonna have tah be dun last. Them thar tailplanes n' wingtips is a-gonna be gloss yeller n' black checks. Thar's also un area 'round th' stabilizer fillets which'll be Chrome. Hope this sheds a lit'l light on th' sits-e-a-shun, podna !

Ah'll put in here a pichur a what she's a-gonna look like.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:18 AM
got a little progress done. Gonna clean up the thin or bright spots and get those halves together by Monday.





-Jeff
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 AM
Left hand side console so far. Don't worry about the washed out paint, only need to retouch a small bit of it.. it's all hiddin 'cept for a small part, and a flat coat will even it out.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:07 AM
On this Tamiya stallion do I have to put the tail w'eel in when I puts the 2 halves togther or can I wait. Can't a'see it in the directions if'n I can wait or not.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:44 AM
Oh my, how did I miss this thread!!!

Is it to late for me to add my name to the list?? I looked at the first page and it seems like Aug 15th is the deadline. I'm 55 minutes into August 15th...

Well, I'll assume that you'll let me in.... if there's a revolt, I'll quietly back out of the saloon doors and mosey on over to the next bar that will take me...

I'm building the Hasesawa 1/72 Jumpin'Jacques P51D. Started on it in late July. Here's the box:



Here's a couple of shots of what she looked like a couple of weeks ago. I'm not adding any details to the kit, other than some scratch seatbelts.




Here's a crappy shot of the prop. I'm trying to show some subtle weathering on the prop. I did this by using Humbrol flat black, which dries relatively slowly. After it was dry to the touch, but not cured (a few hours) I used a fine scouring pad to add some soft weathering to the paint. I like it, and it's not overpowering for 1/72 scale.



Here's what it looks like after a bit of work tonight. A few notes:
- I used Humbrol flat aluminum metalizer for the finish. I'm not sure I really like the paint for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the 'grain' of the paint seems to coarse for 1/72. It went on nicely and looked smooth/consistent, but seemed a bit out of scale. Second, it rubbed off when you touched it. I never had any problems with finger prints, but over time, I'm sure the edges would rub through from handline. I ended up puting a coat of future over it before the decals for fear that the decals wouldn't stick, or that the finish would get messed up. This changed the look of the NMF, but I'm OK with how it looks. It's more 'silver' than NMF now, but I decided to finish it off anyways.
- I haven't built too many kits, but I thought the decals in this kit were awesome. All of the invasion stripes are decals and there are 3 or 4 that go together to go around the fuselage. They fit extremely close and I only used a tiny bit of black paint to touch up a couple little spots. The 'star' is a separate decal from the stripes, and I really liked that the area underneith the 'star' is white on the invasion stripe decal. This way, you don't see any 'line' through the decal.
- I had a bit of trouble with the yellow symbol on the tail of the plane. I used a few different decal solvents (including solvaset) and it's still got some minor silvering in it. Can't really see it in the pics, but it is there, trust me. All of the decals had either Mr. Mark Softer or Solvaset applied to them, and worked well.
- FYI, almost all of the markings on this plane are decals. The anti-glare panel in front of the windshield (olive drab) is about the only paint (other than the alum.) on the plane. Oh, and the wingtips are painted blue as well, but the tail is a decal.



One thing I did before the 'future' and the decals went on, was add some weathering to the aluminum paint. As I mentioned, the Humbrol metal-cote was delicate, so I dragged a fine scouring pad over the alum, thinking it would make it look like it had some light weathering. It's difficult to see in the pic, but it's subtle and personally I like it.




Not much left to do, but I'm planning to put an overall flat coat on the finished product. I'll wait for the decals to dry, then shoot it with Testors Dull Lacquer. I'm going to try to improve the guns a bit too. Should have this one done in a couple of days (barring an unforseen catastrophe!!!)

Murray
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Sunday, August 15, 2004 3:02 AM
Alrighty, I updated the list-o wrustlers earlier tonight, just in time to edit again...

Murray, you made it in after the bell... Wink [;)]

By the way, 'ole Jacques looks mighty fine...


Woodbeck, all that AM stuff works wonders, doesn't it? Coming along nicely...


Pix, coming along, looking good and nice approach on the Alclad.

I really envy you. In reality, I have probably as much time as you do (right now, anyway) but I wish I could crank 'em out like you do. I guess that's the price I pay for having too many interests, hobbies and other things to do... Disapprove [V]


I updated the Town Records with some images in 'General Shots', 'Warbirds' and 'Gun Camera Stills'.

I'm also still working on some images for those who're building specific ships; 'Salem Representative', 'Detroit Miss', etc.


This build is now officially locked up; no more participants will be accepted...


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 3:05 AM
That thar is one fine loo'ing Stal'ion. I gots to tell ya that that ole 'edline is yonder at the day befor'n new years. So's I thinkin you's have 'nough time to join this here builder and maybe m'ken ano'r alsos.
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