Old Guns Build. 30+ an older.... Lets show these Young bucks a thing or two!

nicholma

Member since
September 2003
From: New Zealand

Posted by nicholma on Monday, December 27, 2004 1:59 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900
[here's the link to the Aussie aircraft:

http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/australian.htm

Thanks for the link I found the NZ list as well. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Its given me some extra ideas for the ANZAC GB.

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"

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nicholma

Member since
September 2003
From: New Zealand

Posted by nicholma on Monday, December 27, 2004 1:47 AM

Sorry its a bit late but Yuletide Felicitations to you all.

I've just returned home from 7 days away and after unpacking (and opening a couple of delayed Chrissy presents) it was into "my" room and into our favorite pastime. I've now undercoated all the dozer and logging arch bits, and corrected a couple of imperfections the undercoating bought out. Maybe I'll have time for a picture or 2 tomorrow but she-who-must-be-obeyed is now talking about lifting the carpet prior to painting the bedroom. Now I'm fine with that but she has this mind-set that has me intimitely involved in the whole process!!

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:48 PM

cool Sean! I have been poring over everything today looking for one single pic of that Do17... that would be a sweet build (if somewhat off the wall) for the Aussie 05 build... may have to suffice to the Do24 if Jules doesn't pick it up... I figure he has dibs on the subject since he is the one who brought it up!

I can get some PBY RAAF decals pretty easy... won't worry too much about group markings and such as I am sure it didn't have much if any...

Like I said, this would depend a lot on what Jules does as he got me into this... Wink [;)]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:47 PM

Jules, heres a site with some info and a pic of the Dorniers.

It's not in RAAF dress, but since reading your post I got kinda interested to find out more, and in turn found alot of info about downed a/c from WW II here.
At least it gives you their designation numbers!

It's all good!

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-air-support/ww2-allied/raaf-others.htm

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:14 AM

Tweety i would say that the bell 47 is fringe building, I've certainly never seen a model of one, but then choppers arn't really my thing but i did build Airwolf as a kid.....
The only Chooper i've considered building is an RAAF Huey from the Vietnam war mainly because of the book SAS Phantoms of the Jungle which is full of praise for 9th SQD's bravery in extracting SAS patrols under fire.....

Tom thanks for the cool site Thumbs Up [tup]

I was hopeing to find a pic of these RAAF Dornier's but i havn't had any luck Sad [:(]

I'll keep looking because someone sometime must have taken a photo........Jules.......

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, December 24, 2004 8:42 AM

Funny thing you should bring that up Jules, I was browsing last night and saw a list of WWII aircraft for Britain, and the different countries of the commonwealth... Fairly interesting the Junkers and Dornier craft were used..

here's the link to the Aussie aircraft:

http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/australian.htm

Merry Christmas to all my friends here! And thanks for the honorable mention Sean! Wink [;)]

Hope your holiday is both fun and safe!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, December 24, 2004 3:08 AM

Is making the Bell47G a fringe build???

I so wanna be a fringe builder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, I reckon converting a D model to the G model is about as fringy as it gets.

Or is it stingy?, cause I'm too poor to actually buy a G model 47.

*ramble ramble ramble*

Merry Christmas all you Aussies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and Tom Tongue [:P]

)

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:38 PM

Hey Tom iI've got a colour plate of a Dornier Flying Boat in Aussie markings, you know the tri-motor one the DO-24......
It's A49-4 DQG from41SQD RAAF painted in Dark Earth - Foliage Green......
I think that you could call that fringe building cause I've only seen them in German markings...........Jules.........

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:03 PM

haha no, more of I wanna round out the builds... everyone has a favorite and usually it means the same group of planes.. (same with me, I usually like the ones they are doing)

But for group buiids I like to find something no one else is doing to help keep it in perspective...

::deep sigh:: ok... I'm a fringe builder... now what? Wink [;)]

Still waiting on that pic post of your next model! Ya know the one you spray with a regulated 155??? I saw your post in another thread about better painting with your Aztec, it was the same for me... until I got used to the 175, my Aztec kits were better than my 175 kits... slowly it has turned (quite a bit) in the other direction... just took some getting used to! and getting a 155 helped too! Next brush is a HP-CS Iwata! I promise I will bequeath my 175 to ya in my will! too bad I am only 38! by time you get it Badger will have the 796 out or something haha

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Tankmaster7

Member since
August 2004
From: Nowhere. (Long Island)

Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:32 PM

Fringe builder are we tho?

-Tanky

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:57 PM

haha I already pulled that one Tweety... actually we are keeping quiet and keeping off the good sites... in a wek or two she will get tired of watching it and go back to doing whatever it is she does... then it is business as usual if ya know what I mean...

Same thing happened the last time we got a new internet monitor.. just keep quiet and be all business like and you're clear free till the next time!

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just wait till I tell my mom I'm adopted! usually it's the other way around!!! Propeller [8-]

I feel the same.. it's great clowning around with yall... some people take it to the extreme one way or another... it's nice having people you can relax with.... makes the whole thing more fun! And as a proud Aussie I am looking forward to the GB! Problem is, dysfunctional me has to find something that not only noone else is doing, but something half the people never knew flew with the RAAF! Laugh [(-D]

I just gotta be me!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:58 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

You guys are right, alot more yakking goes on here, instead of quick answers, we actually have time to dwell on the topic.

topics like the relative merits of cow-tipping versus roo racing? and the right blood alcohol content to perform either correctly? yeah, that's right... a real cultural exchange we got going on here! bringing out the best in our cultures and all that stuff!

that's the reason I stay around... if all we did was talk modeling it'd be a dull place indeed!

Great point Tom, yes it's all well and good we discuss modelling, thats what these guys made this site for, and we are eternally grateful to them for it Bow [bow]

, but I for one do not like the idea of limiting my conversation with people like Jules, Mike, Darren and all the Aussies and adopted Aussies (yes YOU Tom Wink [;)]

) to modelling only.
Some very smart people here, and intelligence is something alot of conversations lack these days.

QUOTE:
I'm not going anywhere Jules... if I don't post for awhile it's because I've been busy, or because my work put in a new internet monitoring server and I am paranoid... so far FSM isn't blocked, so I am laying low until the newness wears off of it and I can go back to posting from work! right now my boss is acting like the internet gestapo and running in our office every 15 minutes "I saw you went to Office Depot... doing shopping for Christmas?" and my usualy reply "I was looking for memory for one of the assistant director's computers"

Hey Tom, if your boss is sooooooooooo worried about productivity, then ask him/her how much time have they wasted monitoring your actions????????[:0] Evil [}:)]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOH I'm a trouble maker aint I!!!!! Evil [}:)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:34 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

You guys are right, alot more yakking goes on here, instead of quick answers, we actually have time to dwell on the topic.

topics like the relative merits of cow-tipping versus roo racing? and the right blood alcohol content to perform either correctly? Wink [;)]

yeah, that's right... a real cultural exchange we got going on here! bringing out the best in our cultures and all that stuff!

that's the reason I stay around... if all we did was talk modeling it'd be a dull place indeed!

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I'm not going anywhere Jules... if I don't post for awhile it's because I've been busy, or because my work put in a new internet monitoring server and I am paranoid... so far FSM isn't blocked, so I am laying low until the newness wears off of it and I can go back to posting from work! right now my boss is acting like the internet gestapo and running in our office every 15 minutes "I saw you went to Office Depot... doing shopping for Christmas?" and my usualy reply "I was looking for memory for one of the assistant director's computers" Wink [;)]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:48 AM

here here guys i really enjoy talking to you blokes here, and i sincerly hope you never think to hell with this i'm not going to post anymore because it just wouldn't be the same without you Thumbs Up [tup]

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:35 AM

PHEW!
Thought I was on my own, hanging here and in the Aussie modellers section.

You guys are right, alot more yakking goes on here, instead of quick answers, we actually have time to dwell on the topic.

It's cool!!!

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:17 AM

agreed on that Jules... I only go in now and again to see some pics... but mostly prefer to hang around the group build section to chit chat... a lot more friendly!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:05 AM

Sounds like your on a bit of mission there Tom.........

Tweets I'll pop on over to the A/C forum and give it a little bump for ya Thumbs Up [tup]

thats one thing i've noticed about the A/C forum, topics move at a very fast rate and it's next to impossible to have a decent conversation, thats probably why i spend most of my forum time here in the GB threads and Aussie modellers, because i can have decent conversations with fellow members My 2 cents [2c]

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:53 AM

well that little wdgeon I decided to use for this group is a bit frustrating.... it's a 70's kit I got off ebay and one of the few US Coast Guard things I found out there so went for it...

gaps were incredible in the body but nothing compared to the floats.. .the plastic is misshapen and mis-molded in a few places with me having to actually use putty to fill areas the plastic didn't flow to. So far it's starting to resemble (vaguely) an actual aircraft so we'll see... I have until Sat morning to finish this as it was meant for my dad (he's in the USCG Auxillary) but being he's retired USN as well he might get an SBD for Xmas instead Wink [;)]

(my USN A/C GB kit)

Being there is next to no detail on this plane I don't think I am dtracting from the little detail it did have by my sanding and such ( with a few raised panel lines here or there... ) so we'll see..

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:19 AM

They are there Jules, probably fallen back onto page 4 by now.
Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:05 AM

Hey Sean i just went to the Aircraft forum assuming that you posted up pics of your 109 there but i couldn't find em..........
Are you going to post them up to show the rest of the community.......

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:30 PM

Thanks for that Tweets, I was quite concerned about not having the wash in the decals, i would apply the wash wait for it to dry and then wipe it off and then watch it come straight out of the panel line's over the decals.......
I'll try that way of doing it on the Mustang.......And thanks for the goodies i always love getting model stuff in the mail, I'll let you know when it gets here Thumbs Up [tup]

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:09 AM

Oh, heres my weathering kit.

I am surprised how much you can do with so little.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:06 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Geez i go away for a couple of days and miss all the action

Tweety great looking work mateYouv'e caught the haggard and weathered look of those late war 109's very nicely
just a couple of Is the spiral on the spinner a decal? and what do you use for to wash, for some reason i have trouble getting the wash to stay in the panel lines over decals.......

Tanker love the MarderI didn't realise they were built on the panzer 11 chassis, for some reason i always thought they were built on the 38 ton panzer.....

Once again great work fellas and thanks for sharing
Cheers Jules.......

Jules, the spiral is a decal, set down with Micro Sol over Pledge.
For washes I use artists oils mostly.
Sometimes their finish is a little 'grainy', so I turn to the MM Raw Umber.
After that, the rest of the weathering is done with pastels mostly.
In this case, I used smoke to enhance all the panel lines and for the heavy exhaust stains, then used pastels, black with a touch of white ground in, for the rest of the panel line weathering.

Worked pretty well I reckon.
As for the decal weathering/panel line problem, I used to have the same issue.
Now days I place the decal on, set it with Mico Sol, and while its still softish I slice along the panel line.
2 or 3 more light applications of Micro Sol, and after the final one, I use my finger nail to really 'push' the decal into the panel.
Then I wash as usual.

Works every time, but you have to be patient and wait for around 30 minutes after applying the Micro Sol before touching the decal, otherwise the decal will tear.

BTW, have sent some stuff to you today, lemme know when/if it gets there Smile [:)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2004 4:52 PM

Geez i go away for a couple of days and miss all the action Shock [:O]

Tweety great looking work mate Thumbs Up [tup]

Youv'e caught the haggard and weathered look of those late war 109's very nicely Approve [^]

just a couple of Question [?]

Is the spiral on the spinner a decal? and what do you use for to wash, for some reason i have trouble getting the wash to stay in the panel lines over decals.......

Tanker love the Marder Thumbs Up [tup]

I didn't realise they were built on the panzer 11 chassis, for some reason i always thought they were built on the 38 ton panzer.....

Once again great work fellas and thanks for sharing Big Smile [:D]

Cheers Jules.......

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:17 PM

Geoff, I love the camo net on that Marder Approve [^]

Good looking build you have there!!!

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:50 PM

Well...... to be honest Geoff... it's ugly... really really ugly... hahaha but I always thought those Marders were... ! Wink [;)]

Good job! I like the camo netting you added... I can imagine that barrel slowly rising waiting to let loose with that killer cannon! To be honest I am not an armor person but I almost picked up a Marder today.. in fact I might still... of course the Hobby Lobby 40% sale ended today but oh well... I was there and not only did they have the H and M versions of the Marder III both by Taimya, they had the brass casings and 7.5 cm shells, ammo boxes, jerry cans, etc... etc.. etc... could have a complete dio worth of stuff for pretty cheap!!!

But alas I digress...

great job! I am almost finished with my SBD so can get working on my Widgeon for this build... might pull a fast one and forget the Widgeon and try to get something in during Jan.. the BoB GB starts then but I can work something in during the meantime, I have till May to finish it.. the holidays are just too cramped for time!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:28 PM

well... not QUITE finished yet, but i figgered I post these..... need to finish the decals and the weathering and mounting the pioneer tools and then the figures.......

comments/critisism welcome by all means

http://gallery119051.fotopic.net/c371854_1.html

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:36 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Look good tweety! nice and dirty! By the way, I saw a glass of what looks like paint thinner in one pic... have you been drinking that stuff again? I thought you were on the wagon?

Most days I'm fine Tom, but when you lose bits to the carpet monster, well, the wheels fall off the wagon Wink [;)]

Between you, me, and the fence post, it's the only reason I stick with modelling.
Ain't nuttin' better than knocking back a cool jar of thinners between spray sessions![:0]
One for me!
One for the brush!
One for me.................

Alien [alien]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:18 PM

Look good tweety! nice and dirty! By the way, I saw a glass of what looks like paint thinner in one pic... have you been drinking that stuff again? Wink [;)]

I thought you were on the wagon? Laugh [(-D]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:12 AM

tweety---- looks GREAT! nice job.

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