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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 21, 2005 11:04 AM

That's funny Rick, in practice I've found the green a finer consistency, and swear by it myself. I find the nail polish remover and cotton swab method works well for clean up on the green, but has made a hedious mess when I used it with the white.

But, as always YMMV

Sean

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, January 21, 2005 10:29 AM

Squadron White is supposed to be finer grain than the Green, but I never found any real difference between them.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Friday, January 21, 2005 8:59 AM

I used Swanny's techinque of using fingernail polish remover to smooth down the putty immediatly after applying it. He recommended white, so that's what I used. Worked well.

Bob

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Friday, January 21, 2005 8:53 AM

I have never used the white putty but I thought the difference was that the green was faster drying than the white?

Started working on my Hasegawa He 111 last night. After building that Huma kit for Mad Komet Day this kit is a real pleasure to work with. Won't be using much of that putty at all! Big Smile [:D]

Dave

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KINGTHAD

Member since
May 2004
From: Dallas

Posted by KINGTHAD on Friday, January 21, 2005 8:30 AM

Bob I will have to agree with tweety on the putty, one is coarser than the other but I cant tell a difference (IMHO).

Thad

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Friday, January 21, 2005 8:29 AM

Sean-Thanks for the info and recommendation.

The wing to fuselage gaps aren't quite as bad as I had initally thought after starting work last night. However, the engine to wing gaps are bad, along with the general fuselage fit. Oh well, it will give me something to do on a cold snowy evening.....humm..maybe a diorama of a crashed He111...nah.

Bob

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, January 21, 2005 7:44 AM

Bob, I think the grade of the putty is the differance.
Ones coarser than the other, but I'm not 100% sure.
I use Tamiya putty, always have, always will!! To date it has never let me down.
I'm on my second tube now, and I have been back into modelling for 3 years I think.

Jules I just remembered something I did on the Sabre!
I'll post it on the Aussie GB.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Friday, January 21, 2005 7:07 AM

"So what stage is everyone else up to??"
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--Sean--

Putty generously applied to the He111-hope to sand tonight. Still need to mask off the canopy & such. Maybe get it primed this weekend. Still tossing around thoughts as to how to achieve the night camo scheme.

Quick question for the group-what is the difference between Squadron's green & white putties, other than color? Or is there any?

Thanks

Bob

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, January 21, 2005 4:54 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cossack

I found my Africa build ... I bought myself a Saetta off eBay (great source for 'hard to find' models) ... so that will be it. Maybe I am joing Tweetys band of "Those Who Appreciate Difficult Cammo Patterns" - Tweets - we need an acronym!!

We do need something, cause the camo on my 109, after I finished with the mask making etc, really seemed quite easy Big Smile [:D]

But, The 129 I plan to do for the Nth African GB will have a camo pattern from HELL!!!

I have ALWAYS wanted to find a plane I liked so I could finally get the squiggle camo monkey off my back, and it will be the 129!!

Going to Pledge the 109 tonight, and maybe get some decals on by Sunday if things calm down round here Angry [:(!]

So what stage is everyone else up to??

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Friday, January 21, 2005 4:43 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

OOPS, Sorry Mike, I thought you were saying they were expensive, which at $5.00 USD per seat they kinda are, but worth the money IMHO. I use Cutting Edge quite a bit also, as their quality is also very high & they have a much broader product offering than Ultracast. But both are excellent.

Regards, Rick

I've just received their Hurricane seat/armour set, wheel bay insert and replacement flight surfaces for my build, and they are truly gorgeous.

What's more with the current exchange rate they only cost me £14 including shipping across the pond!!!!!!! Big Smile [:D]

Now I just need to clear a couple of builds and get on with the Hurricane!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:53 PM

I found my Africa build ... I bought myself a Saetta off eBay (great source for 'hard to find' models) ... so that will be it. Maybe I am joing Tweetys band of "Those Who Appreciate Difficult Cammo Patterns" - Tweets - we need an acronym!!

Paul

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:17 PM

Yeah right. I try that line on my wife, but it doesn't work.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:57 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Osher, if you want a Sitfire floatplane, look at the 1/24 Trumpeter kit. Tempting, but I have no idea where I'd put it after I built it.

Regards, Rick

Thanks Rick! As my wardrobes are overflowing with boxes of huge kits (I went through a phase of big is best), I know the problem. Still, in December I went on a 1/144 kick, and at least they are a little bit smaller.

Tomorrow (Saturday) I go to the model shop to collect the PE for the BoB GB, and I will try, honest, not to buy more. (last week I went to buy 1 tin of paint... OK, so the Tamiya kits were going cheap in the 2nd hand bit, really!)

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:27 PM

Osher, if you want a Sitfire floatplane, look at the 1/24 Trumpeter kit. Tempting, but I have no idea where I'd put it after I built it.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:23 PM

OOPS, Sorry Mike, I thought you were saying they were expensive, which at $5.00 USD per seat they kinda are, but worth the money IMHO. I use Cutting Edge quite a bit also, as their quality is also very high & they have a much broader product offering than Ultracast. But both are excellent.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:04 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Mike, I never said Ultracast was inexpensive, but they are excellent quality. I'm sure you'll be happy with their product. I've ordered from them numerous times & their sevice is first rate. I also like Cutting Edge, but they are even more expensive than Ultracast.

Regards, Rick

Rick

I think they are fairly inexpensive Smile [:)]

and will certainly order a pair of seats. Should spice up the Monogram kit immensely!!

CE is good, I used a CE resin seat in a Italeri F-5E and was blown away by the detail

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:55 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Osher, I think your right. Looked in the box of a PM kit & it had 3 sprues with no parts & 4 tubes of filler . Never actually tried to build one though. I did tackle a couple of FM kits, but never again in this lifetime.

Regards, Rick

LOL! Sounds about right! Big Smile [:D]

Actually, it's a pity as they produce some interesting kits, including a Spitfire floatplane, and a 1/72 Flagon. Actually, the Flagon can (with filler, files, scratchbuilding and patience) be made into a really nice model (I built one in December).

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:45 PM

Osher, I think your right. Looked in the box of a PM kit & it had 3 sprues with no parts & 4 tubes of filler Big Smile [:D]

. Never actually tried to build one though. I did tackle a couple of FM kits, but never again in this lifetime.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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osher

Member since
April 2003
From: Edgware, London

Posted by osher on Thursday, January 20, 2005 4:42 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Whine away Thad, it's very good for the soul. Not as good as gnashing teeth & beating head against wall. Save that for your first Fonderie Miniatures kit .

Regards, Rick

Ever tried a PM kit? More filler than model! My vote for the worst kit ever is the PM Dagger/Nesher/Mirage III

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:04 PM

We perfect our skills at whining if nothing else Sigh [sigh]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:55 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Oh, stop the whining about gaps & seams. That's why filler putty was invented I built the Monogram 1/48 He-111 when it was first released several years ago & it wasn't too bad. Is this one of the re-issues ? Tools may have deteriorated a bit, I suppose.

Regards, Rick

Reissue-and deteriorated is bit of an understatement. I should be able to get an industrial discount on putty for this one......but that's how we perfect our skills, right?

Bob

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:40 PM

Whine away Thad, it's very good for the soul. Not as good as gnashing teeth & beating head against wall. Save that for your first Fonderie Miniatures kit Big Smile [:D]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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KINGTHAD

Member since
May 2004
From: Dallas

Posted by KINGTHAD on Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:25 PM

Come on Rick If I don't whine I wont have anything else to do. (I guess I could fill some gaps and sand).

Bob it is the Monogram kit, Thanks for the good news- oops I'm whineing again sorry Rick.

Thad

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:06 PM

Oh, stop the whining about gaps & seams. That's why filler putty was invented Smile [:)]

I built the Monogram 1/48 He-111 when it was first released several years ago & it wasn't too bad. Is this one of the re-issues ? Tools may have deteriorated a bit, I suppose.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:33 PM

Thad-I'm currently building the Monogram 1/48 He111-what brand/scale is yours? If it is the Monogram, it only gets worse when the wings are attached.

Bob

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KINGTHAD

Member since
May 2004
From: Dallas

Posted by KINGTHAD on Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:11 PM

Here is all the progress that I have made on my HE-111. After getting her glued up I can see I have alot of gap filling and sanding to do Dead [xx(]

Thad

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:17 AM

Wow, with all this Ultracast talk, I'm thinking I may need to pick up that 1/48 Hasegawa Hurricane and trick it out with some Ultracast resin.

Gotta support those Canadian businesses eh? Big Smile [:D]

Darren and Rick, thanks for the kind words about my work. As I said, I'm very happy with houw this experiment is turning out.

Tom: I see that you're one of those 'if it's stuck hit it with a hammer, if it breaks it needed to be fixed anyways' kind of guys Big Smile [:D]

And here I was thinking we were a dying breed.....

Sean -- To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail....

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:46 AM

Mike, I never said Ultracast was inexpensive, but they are excellent quality. I'm sure you'll be happy with their product. I've ordered from them numerous times & their sevice is first rate. I also like Cutting Edge, but they are even more expensive than Ultracast.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:04 AM

Tom,
Thanks for the advise-sounds like a plan. I'm planning on using acrylic for the upper black 'blotches'-should be easier to wipe off any mistakes....

Bob

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:16 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

They are a Canadian firm. I order from their web site.

www.ultracast.ca

Regards, Rick

Rick

cheers for the link, I am most impressed at the fact there is two seats for $10 including delivery!

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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