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Posted by fiasco on Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:51 PM
It just shows how much budget constraints have slimmed our airforces down worldwide! I didn't realise there were so many British teams over the years. Nowhere near as many teams around now, nor airshows for that matter! There was even talk of disbanding the red arrows earlier this year. I can't see it myself. They do such a great PR job for the RAF. Mind you, people probably said the same about Concorde and BA! Lets hope not.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:44 PM
Hmmm, interesting GB. Im wondering, would an su-27 with the Russian Knights be a viable option? Im not saying Im joing tho, ive got some other models that need building.
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Posted by Awood23 on Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:01 PM
You know, You'd like to think that the RAF would never let go of the Red Arrows but I remember growing up thinking that things like the Lancaster and Vulcan were too important to RAF History to let them go but look at em know, down to one operational Lancaster and I dont know about the Vulcan but last I saw there was only one operational and that one was flying on donation money.... :( If they can let go of these surely they wouldn't loose too much sleep over axing the Arrow
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Awood23/DarkSideBadge.jpg "your' not trying if your not cheating" "no one ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor bugger die for his" 'never before have so many owed so much to so few" 1/48 Spitfire %80
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Posted by fiasco on Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:29 PM
Sentiment comes second to budget. Just look at the Black Watch Regiment in Iraq. UK government are threatening to merge them with other Scottish regiments, but they're quite happy to send them to the front line...makes you think!
Slightly off topic...sorry
Tankmaster, I reckon the Russian Knights would fit in this GB just fine.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:41 PM
Yeah, the Russian Knights are perfect for this! Join in whenever you feel like it, Tankmaster!

Coming from a smaller country, I've seen how budget cuts can affect Aerobatic Teams... The Belgian Red Devils have been gone for years and all the Belgian Air Force can really afford is the odd special decoration for such or such anniversary. Having said that, there's been quite a few of those over the years..!
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Posted by fiasco on Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:15 PM
Yes, the ones that spring to mind immediately are the F-16 Tigermeet schemes.

Didn't someone manufacture a kit of this? Was it Revell?
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:48 PM
Alas, I have the perfect model for this GB, but unfortunately I have other models that need to be built first. But if I could start in like feb. mebbe I could join. When is the start and finish dates for this thing? (BTW I would theoretically and hypothetically be building a mig-29 from the Ukrainian flight demo team. If I was joining that is. Which I want to but can't.)
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, November 12, 2004 12:52 AM
Tankamaster, Feb is as fine as anytime in this GB. There's no finish date... It could go on forever.. Mwoaaaaahahaha!

Fiasco, yes that Tiger Meet F-16 comes to mind. Revell had it in its catalogue both in 1/72 and 1/48, I believe... Daco Products have a number of decal sheets for other 'anniversary' Belgian Air Force Mirages, F-16, F-104, Alpha Jets, C-130, SeaKings,...
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, November 12, 2004 3:13 AM
This is the kit I'm contemplating...

Frems' 1/48 Aermacchi MB339 PAN..

(view of the side of the box)

It looks good in the box, the only concern being, maybe, panel lines that are a bit deep.. If you're interested, I've found this short review of the kit in the Frecce Tricolore markings:

http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/Gal1/701-800/Gal760_MB339_Chua/gal760.htm
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 12, 2004 8:22 AM
Hey Fellow Aerobatic GBers,
Please include me in with Hasegawa's 1/48 F/A-18A in Blue Angel markings. I've seen the Blues and the Thunderbirds from Phantoms to A-4s and T-38s to F/A-18s and F-16s. Haven't had the pleasure of seeing any of the foreign teams, but I'll bet they're great! Looking forward to this build!
Thanks, John
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, November 12, 2004 8:33 AM
Welcome, John! You're "viewing experience" goes back a long time, early '70s by all accounts! I wish I had seen the Blues with their A-4..! Looking forward to seeing your Hornet...
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Posted by Vautour on Friday, November 12, 2004 1:53 PM
The toss up between Sabre and Vampire. Both aircraft are appealing.


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Posted by waikong on Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:00 PM
Awood23,
Thanks for the offer! Maybe a lot of work for you to do it for everyone? Here's the best I can do.




If its too much for you, I'll be happy to generate my own using your theme.
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Posted by Awood23 on Sunday, November 14, 2004 2:35 AM
No worries Maikong sadly my current job puts infront of a computer alot more than Id care to be with little to do but surf the net. This is actually kinda fun for me. Now if I could only convince my NCOIC that I would be more productive building models at work. The badge is further back in the thread where I posted the others.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Awood23/DarkSideBadge.jpg "your' not trying if your not cheating" "no one ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor bugger die for his" 'never before have so many owed so much to so few" 1/48 Spitfire %80
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Posted by mkhoot on Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:23 PM
Awood23 I'm planning on building Skyblazers f-84 and f-86 if you could work this image into a badge for me i would greatly apreciate it'


Thanks Mark
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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Posted by Awood23 on Monday, November 15, 2004 6:40 AM
mkhoot, I made two badges for you so you can pic. I used the photo you posted as I have a feeling this may have some kind of sentimental value for you? if not I have another pic I like more. Its up to you. No sore feelings if you dont like the one I used. I can wait to see this one built :)
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Awood23/DarkSideBadge.jpg "your' not trying if your not cheating" "no one ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor bugger die for his" 'never before have so many owed so much to so few" 1/48 Spitfire %80
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Posted by mkhoot on Monday, November 15, 2004 8:55 AM
Thanks Awood23 I used yours it looks good.
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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Posted by Awood23 on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:25 AM
I got started on my kit today. Mostly inspecting peices and seeing what Im gonna have to do. This kit is terrible. Lotsa flash, Injector pin marks every where, thin poor quality plastic, lack of detail. POS decals... This kits only saving grace will be that by dry fitting it seems to go together well. How I dont know. The fuselage is broken down into 6 PIECES!!! 2 nose, 2 main body and 2 tail....
I think Im gonna go ahead and do Revells 1/72 Red Arrow at the same time I do this one. I eventually plan to build all 9 arrows and try and do em in an inflght formation.

DJ, did you get the email with my snail mail addy's?
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Awood23/DarkSideBadge.jpg "your' not trying if your not cheating" "no one ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor bugger die for his" 'never before have so many owed so much to so few" 1/48 Spitfire %80
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:27 AM
I've reached that stage too, Awood. My kit looks good though! And no, I haven't had your mail. Try again at:

djmodels1999@aol.com
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Posted by mkhoot on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:55 PM
Just started mine today also. Building Revell F-84 as a Skyblazers plane from 1952. Kit looks nicely detailed should be a fairly simple build.
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:57 PM
still waiting 4 my 1/72 Hawk...
but i found a Fiat a/c in Frecce Tricolore markings at my LHS,
it's a tamiya kit in 1/100 scale... that'll b my backup, never done 1/100
before...

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:29 PM
I did not even know Tamiya ever had that Fiat G91 in their catalogue! Cool!

Mark, good luck on your build! That GB badge look really great with that Skyblazer's pic!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:45 AM
Hey guys...wondering if I can join the build. This will be the first time I've join a group build....it should be fun...looks like you guys are already having fun!

I'm going for 2 kits. First will be the 1/72 Has. Blue Angels F/A-18. It will be OOB, but I will be building a matching Gundam robot...more on that later. Second kit will be a Canadain Golden Hawks kit...my wife was in Toronto years ago and I build this kit. I loved it...it got destroyed in a move and I recently found the same kit again, so I'm really looking forward to it. I will post pics as I get them done. I'll probably start on the Blue Angels kit sometime after the Christmas holiday. Glad this one is open-ended! LOL!

Later,
Taz

EDIT: Hey! I got the badges to work...that took a while, but I got it! I swiped the Sabre badge, I hope you don't mind! It is perfect...I love the box art from that kit!

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:49 PM
Of course, you can join in Tazman..! That SF/F project of yours looks promising and intriguing! Which part of KY are you from? I lived for a while in Northern KY..
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Posted by mkhoot on Friday, November 19, 2004 3:02 PM
In work pics of my F-84 cockpit. Added seat cushion, seat belts and ejection seat handles.

When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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Posted by Awood23 on Saturday, November 20, 2004 2:23 AM
Sorry Mkhoot, got the dreaded red X's
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Awood23/DarkSideBadge.jpg "your' not trying if your not cheating" "no one ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor bugger die for his" 'never before have so many owed so much to so few" 1/48 Spitfire %80
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Posted by ghettochild on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:51 AM
well i picked out my kit great models is having a sale so it was only 15 bucks!
-Josh
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Posted by Awood23 on Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:51 PM
Mkhoot, if the rest of the plain looks as good as the office area, I cant wait. I wish I had the skill to detail a cockpit like that.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Awood23/DarkSideBadge.jpg "your' not trying if your not cheating" "no one ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other poor bugger die for his" 'never before have so many owed so much to so few" 1/48 Spitfire %80
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Posted by fiasco on Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:43 PM
Well, I've started on the 1/48 Red Arrows Hawk.
I've put the ejection seats together. What a disappointment, poor fit, no harnesses. I'm really tempted to get an AM set but the cost is prohibitive.
Question is do I go all out and add the extra detail or straight out the box?
I know if I start adding detail it'll take me ages to complete, but will I be satisfied as is?
What do you guys think I should do?
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Posted by mkhoot on Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:37 PM
Fiasco I'm building my F-84 pretty much out of the box just adding a little detail using bits of plastic and wire. You could make some belts using tape and wire for buckles.
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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