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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:40 PM

Pingy Bizarrely enough Gunze H79, Sandgelb, equates to RLM 79, the lighter version.

Or should that be 79 Light, the lighter way to enjoy luftwaffe camo?

I used the H66 a while back on a Kubelwagen, and it is way too dark!!!

No progress on the MS406 this week, and no pictures either.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:10 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison
Matt I can't be sure so you may want to check with Rick but from what i can tell the most noticable differance is the canopy, the F has the same canopy as the E but the G has a differant canopy with a larger strut in the middle......
Y'Know "Marsielle" flew a G in the desert as well as an F, both carried the yellow 14........

Thanks for the info, I saw the canopy differences about two hours after i had shot the paint onto it. Oh well, guess that it will have to be the G then. Just didnt want to model the last type of 109 that he flew. Although how many times do you see a display that reads " This is the aircraft that finally got the better of Marsielle"!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:19 PM

progress pics

here are a few pics of my 109 as it gets all done up for Marsielle

So far i have enjoyed this kit a ton. I think that it is a re-release of a hasegawa kit by Revell-Germany, superior in almost every way to the Fw190 kit that i built a few months ago.

Hopefully I'll get to finish it this weekend since it is a long one for me!!! Cool [8D]

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:47 PM

That's looking great Matt. Great job on the panel line shading.

Dave

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:17 PM

Looks fabulous Matt! I'll have to look for that kit. I have built a few Revell DE kits and am MUCH happier with their quality than Revell US.. the Ju88 is a fun kit to build too...

Tweets - Kremps saves money so she can spend it on Jules and I!! How do you think I came by all these ultracast bits lately, and the Iwata I am getting?

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:09 PM

Looking good Matt. Should be a stunner.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:53 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

It's under Toys & Hobbies, Model Building, Air etc

I'll tell ya what Jules.
When this engine gets here, probably late next week (onya Aussie Post), if it looks like to much of a chore to fit, I'll send it to ya

I have a kinda strange feeling that it suits the ICM kit more than the Hase, seeing as CMK's other stuff is made for the ICM kit.

Tweety Mate i think the only problem you would have are the 2 parts that make up the intake under the engine, that big chunk of plastic that the intake sticks on to will have to be completely removed........Does the resin engine come with the mounts Question [?]

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:55 PM

That's looking great matt. The shading and panel line washes look great.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:07 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by blkhwkmatt

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison
Matt I can't be sure so you may want to check with Rick but from what i can tell the most noticable differance is the canopy, the F has the same canopy as the E but the G has a differant canopy with a larger strut in the middle......
Y'Know "Marsielle" flew a G in the desert as well as an F, both carried the yellow 14........

Thanks for the info, I saw the canopy differences about two hours after i had shot the paint onto it. Oh well, guess that it will have to be the G then. Just didnt want to model the last type of 109 that he flew. Although how many times do you see a display that reads " This is the aircraft that finally got the better of Marsielle"!!

Yeah kinda ironic eh Matt all those combat missions, 150 plus kills and he's brought down by engine failure Dead [xx(]

same as Molders 100 kills countless missions and he dies flying to Ernst Udets funeral, and the other guy too Barkhorn, over 300 kills and he dies in a car accident 10 years later......
BTW great job on the 109 Thumbs Up [tup]

It's gonna look sweet when it's finished Big Smile [:D]

Tom don't go buying a 109 G mate, i have the Hasegawa G6 here thats earmarked for Texas

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:04 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

It's under Toys & Hobbies, Model Building, Air etc

I'll tell ya what Jules.
When this engine gets here, probably late next week (onya Aussie Post), if it looks like to much of a chore to fit, I'll send it to ya

I have a kinda strange feeling that it suits the ICM kit more than the Hase, seeing as CMK's other stuff is made for the ICM kit.

Tweety Mate i think the only problem you would have are the 2 parts that make up the intake under the engine, that big chunk of plastic that the intake sticks on to will have to be completely removed........Does the resin engine come with the mounts

She's the whole deal Jules, firewall and everything.

I have no problem cutting stuff up Big Smile [:D]

But like I said, if it looks like it'll take more drive than I have, it's heading your way Wink [;)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:06 PM

Matt that 109 is looking real good to me Approve [^]

Is there any mottle on this 109?
Or is it just standard sand finish?

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:14 PM

Jules - thanks a lot pardner (thats Texas talk ya know haha) but dont go paying a lot for shipping... BTW: I want to try shipping a model to one of you as well... if there is ever a "must have" one of you folks from the dark side of the planet need I hate to see you pay those great models or squadron.com rates for overseas shipping.... at least let me weigh one and calculate shipping on the USPS website....

3 bottles of Future made it there for not a lot of money... (about 11 pounds weight total)

a simple model should be a LOT less!!!! yall can repay me by buying Kremps a ticket to see me once again... oh yeah.. and asking her to shave her back before she leaves... Wink [;)]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:13 PM

Sooooo you wanna ship a model to Down Under eh Tom Ok no worries i'll have the Revell 1/72 Flower Class corvette if you please Thumbs Up [tup]

And BTW no need to thank me, They had a heap of them at the LHS for $25:00AU so i grabbed 5 of them, the detail in the pit is pretty sad but you can put away the filler because it goes together like a dream Thumbs Up [tup]

Besides i owe you one Thumbs Up [tup]

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:29 PM

Tom I'll take one of those new Hasegawa P-40E's mate. Big Smile [:D]

Just kidding mate, I can't afford the thing anyway....... This is where a job comes in handy. Wink [;)]

-Daniel

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:42 AM

Hi Jules I see you're online, hey aren't you supposed to be at work? Hang on a minute so am I Cool [8D]

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:11 AM

Yeah Darren i am supposed to be at work but the mob i work for hasn't offloaded my stock yet so i get the day off, downside is i have to work on friday to get it all done...
I saw your name on the bottom of the page and i knew that you were sneaking posts in at work............Good Show Thumbs Up [tup]

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:12 AM

Gotta love having internet access at work Thumbs Up [tup]

Now days I can do some work, surf the forums, do some work, research a kit etc etc etc

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:56 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Matt that 109 is looking real good to me

Is there any mottle on this 109?
Or is it just standard sand finish?

it is just the standard finish - with one exception, it appears that the area for the 14 on the left side was freshly repainted before the numeral were applied. The thing that i liked about the solid finish was the chance to work on producing that "sunbleached" look to the upper surfaces.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:41 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by blkhwkmatt

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Matt that 109 is looking real good to me

Is there any mottle on this 109?
Or is it just standard sand finish?

it is just the standard finish - with one exception, it appears that the area for the 14 on the left side was freshly repainted before the numeral were applied. The thing that i liked about the solid finish was the chance to work on producing that "sunbleached" look to the upper surfaces.

Interesting...............

With darker colours, ya just lighten up a tad, and it's done.

BUT with lighter colours, like the sand, I reckon it would be a little harder to lighten without making it look 'chalky'

I have never tried on a lighter colour, too scared of stuffing the whole finish to be honest Disapprove [V]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:11 AM

I've heard a good way to lighten colours without making them chalky is to use Tamiya XF-15 flat flesh (or a similar colour). Makes sense I suppose, I haven't tried it yet, but the fella at Tamiya model mag reckons it works (Am I allowed to say that name on the finescale forum Question [?]

).

-Daniel

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

QUOTE: Originally posted by blkhwkmatt

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Matt that 109 is looking real good to me

Is there any mottle on this 109?
Or is it just standard sand finish?

it is just the standard finish - with one exception, it appears that the area for the 14 on the left side was freshly repainted before the numeral were applied. The thing that i liked about the solid finish was the chance to work on producing that "sunbleached" look to the upper surfaces.

Interesting...............

With darker colours, ya just lighten up a tad, and it's done.

BUT with lighter colours, like the sand, I reckon it would be a little harder to lighten without making it look 'chalky'

I have never tried on a lighter colour, too scared of stuffing the whole finish to be honest

All that I did actually was add a bit of white to the paint and spray it very faintly on the bird from the top down, avoiding the panel lines and the extreme bottom of the fusalage. First time trying to bleach the paint at all, think that i like the results!!!

Q - does anyone know the number of Marsielle's wingman, am thinking about making another 109 trop and would like to make his wingman!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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bobbaily

Member since
November 2003
From: Nashville, TN area

Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:20 AM

Great job Matt. I was just getting ready to ask you how you accomplished that great accenting/fading job. Definatly going to have to try that in the future.

Bob

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:33 PM

Jules - will have to see if I can find that one, they didn't have it at the LHS last time I went, will see if they can order it for me.. (the flower class corvette)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:31 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Jules - will have to see if I can find that one, they didn't have it at the LHS last time I went, will see if they can order it for me.. (the flower class corvette)

Tom i was just kidding mate, The Flower is an expensive and rather huge model, the box is about the same size as the revell 1/72 U-boat, the cheapest price i've come across here is $130:00AU.......
But if you really want to send something how about a 1/1 1995 Corvette Wink [;)]

Matt Mate i wouldn't have a clue who his wingman was, I'll see what i have in my books............

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:23 PM

Jules - would you settle for a 1:1 corvette model made of taoilet paper rolls and coated with toilet paper mache? Wink [;)]

I might have to send Tweets something like that, I've had deliveries to both Darren and Jules house but not his yet.. I'll put the sender as "Edna Kremps" Evil [}:)]

I think his missus would want to know about that!!

hmmm... ever built the 1/72 S-100 Schnellboot Jules? next 50% off sale I will have to try to pick you one up... about 365 pieces and finished it measures about 89cm long...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:08 PM

No worries Tom but too save shipment costs just send the toilet paper and instruction sheet Thumbs Up [tup]

And no mate i havn't built the Schnellboot yet but i would love to get my hands on it, i have a great documentary on the S boats here, If you can get your hands on it then i'd be pretty interested just let me know how much it costs Thumbs Up [tup]

Matt I had a look for ya but all i could find was a painting of yellow 14 and an identical 109 coded as yellow 7........

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:13 PM

Jules - if I can catch it for the 50% off sale I can get it for ya about $11 US. no kidding! the kit is only about $25 US normally and is an exquisite kit!!! you say you have a documentary on them? who makes it? I found moderate research on paint colors and such when I built my first one...

---edit---

oh yeah it's about 50cm built, I was a bit ambitious with my measurements in my head... went out and measured it today... (the one I built awhile back)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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blkhwkmatt

Member since
September 2003
From: Northern hemisphere - most of the time-

Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, April 29, 2005 1:48 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Matt I had a look for ya but all i could find was a painting of yellow 14 and an identical 109 coded as yellow 7........

No worries my friend, I have started a bit of research myself, and this is going to be a future project. I thank you for the info that you were able to dig up though!!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, April 29, 2005 7:35 PM

Well got the first coat of RLM79 down on the Ju87... this is going to be a good looking plane... not the best I have done but at first my heart wasn't in it... as I went along I started getting more into it...

Now the Martlet on the back shelf right now will be a different story!!! I need to make sure I bought those Martlet seats, I am sure I did!!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Friday, April 29, 2005 7:41 PM

ok ran across an interesting site... it's the allied order of battle for the invasion at Casablanca... I might do my Martlet as a Wilcat this time to be different. SBD's, TBF's, SBD's and P-40's also all flew for the US in the attack.. (USS Santee is on the battle order with her SBD's)

It also lists all ships involved in case a ship person browses through here... also tanks etc...

http://www.navweaps.com/index_oob/OOB_WWII_Mediterranean/OOB_WWII_Casablanca.htm

just thought I would throw it in...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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