Fw190D/Ta-152 "Langnase" Group Build

Looks good so far Pix. Should look good with a wash and dry brush.

Great !
just one q.. shouldn't colour of pit be little more darker ?

Lookin great Pix!

Guys,

I'm gonna be underneath the radar for about the next six weeks. Uncle Sam is sending me up to Ft. Lewis, Washington for training until 17 July. Once I'm done with this, I'll be commissioned as a 2LT in the Army and will head off to flight school in the fall.

Keep building! From what I've seen, you guys are cranking out some great Long Noses. Can't wait to see em!

This'll probably be my last post until late July, so take care, keep building and godspeed.

What?.... You're leaving us now? Just after dumping another GB on us and all.....You know we all enter too many of these things anyway. Ah well.....Good luck with your training and everything else mate. See you when you get back.

QUOTE: Originally posted by blkhwkmatt Has anyone ever built the Hasegawa kit of the D-9 "fall of the Reich Fighter"? It comes with PE and white metal. It's on a 50% discount at greatmodels right now.

Just to pass along the information that I have learned ( at the cost of $28.00 ) - I ordered this kit, hoping and thinking that it was one of the newer Hasa kits. What I realize now is that it is one of the "Hi-grade" series of Fw-190s that was released in the late 80's early 90's. This means that it lacks the biggest distinctive feature of the Dora, the open wheel wells. I'm sure that there are other errors, as most of the parts look exactly the same to the Revell-Germany Fw-190f-8 that i built not too long ago. I will say that I am pleased with all the PE, white metal and brass tubing that is included, but so far that is all that I'm happy about. I guess that I'll have to order the engine plug kit that has been referenced elsewhere in this thread. Oh well, I was able to make a good looking 190 before so i should be able to do it again.

The one bright spot that I did receive today was the eagle parts cockpit, It Is AWSOME!!!!!!

Good luck Cobra - I'm sure that you'll have fun.

FYI - i have found a great web site that has tons of resin conversion stuff for the Dora as well as full on aircraft!!!

http://www.jrutman.com/

hope that this info helps someone here!!

Looking good Mkhoot & Pix Makes me want to start mine now but the last thing i need is another one on the bench, gotta get a couple of other builds of the bench before i start............

Cobra,

I expressed interest in this build when the topic was started in the A/C forum, but never solidified this. I would definitely like to join....I'm planning perhaps a 1/48 A8. I will have to shop around about 4 weeks from now and will update at that time what I will be building.

thanks

I don't think an A8 would fit this Group build Mpartric. Cobra wanted to make it for the long nose versions of the 190 (190D and Ta152's). There were some other people (including me) who would have liked to see 190A's included, but it's been kept to the long nose variants.So get looking for a long nose FW if you want to take part in this GB.

Jules, i know how ya feel, ive got about 4 kits to finish before i can start on this gb if i want inspiration i just look at pixilaters work always good !! P.S good luck with the course jon does this mean that youll be able to eat with a knife and fork ? mick

Thanks for the kind words !

Cobrahistorian - good luck with the training. "See" you when you get back!

I finished the cockpit today. The instrument panels are PE, with acetate dials. I applied a drop of Future for the "glass" portions. I found some great pics on the web, which really helped. They were of an unpressurized, late model Fw 190D, but many of the details are the same. All the PE is from the Eduard set, and I'll only be using a few PE pieces from the kit.




Now to get the engine and cockpit into the fuselage.

Looks very nice Pix. Can I ask where did you get these pics from. I'm interested in seeing them.

Thanks pingtang !

The reference pics I used are of a 190D-13 (the recently restored Yellow 10):
http://p069.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm69.showMessage?topicID=46.topic

Here are some other references that may be useful:

Fw 190D-9 engine (Jumo 213A-1)
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190d9enginereferencebg_1.htm

http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/AWA1/201-300/walk240_FW-190/part2/walk240b.htm

Landing gear:
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190landinggear_1.htm
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190landinggear_2.htm

Technical drawings in Zip files:
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/fw190dmm.html
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/fw190d.html
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/fw190d9pkl.html

My build of the Trimaster 190D-9:
http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/Gal4/3401-3500/gal3496_Fw-190_Lachance/gal3496.htm

Hope these links can be of help !

Pix - looking great!!!! I hope that my pit looks as good as yours when I am finished!!! Also thanks for the web references!!!

Keep us posted!!

Thanks for the references mate. Saves me searching the net, which can take a long time on my 56K connection. And, i must say, you D-9 looks beautiful.

A question for you more knowledgable people out there. What were the main visual differences between the D-11 and the D-13? I think know of a few, but need some confirmation. Thanks.

After a short search, I found this info:

"The Fw 190D-11 was powered by the Jumo 213F with MW 50 boost. The fuselage-mounted guns were eliminated, and there were two MG 151s in the wing roots and two MK 108s in the outer wings. Only seven prototypes were built.

The Fw 190D-12 was a fighter-bomber variant, which differed from the D-9 by having a three-stage supercharged Jumo 213F-1 engine rated at 2060 hp for takeoff mounted in a new, more extensively armored cowling. Armanent was one engine-mounted 30-mm MK 108 cannon and two 20-mm MG 151s in the wing roots. Although primarily a ground-attack plane, the D-12 also made an effective fighter and could attain 453 mph at 37,000 feet when MW 50 boost was used. Production began in March 1945 at the Arado and Fieseler plants, but only a few were delivered.

The D-13 differed from the D-12 by having a Jumo 213EB engine and by having a 20-mm engine-mounted MG 151 cannon in place of the 30-mm MK 108 unit. However, only a couple of prototypes were built."


You would need to eliminate the outer wing gun positions, and add a cannon barrel to the spinner. There would also be only one shell ejector chute between the wheel wells to the left side of the centerline. The cockpit has this configuration: http://p069.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm69.showMessage?topicID=46.topic

Hope this helps !

Right, Dora it is then. thanks

EDIT: ohhhhh, "langnase" like "Long Nose." duh.....I thought langnase was some sort of italian pasta that we were all going to celebrate the end of the build by eating. I'm a little dense sometimes...

Hey guys,

I'm still around this week. Apparently Division didn't think that Cadets needed to go to Annual Training, so orders were never cut for me. So, I get a week's reprieve before I head to Ft. Lewis, WA.

Pingtang,

The D-11 should already have a larger hole in the spinner to allow for an engine-mounted cannon. The only thing you'd need to do to make a D-11 into a D-12 or D-13 is not put on the cannon bulges for the outer wings. Like Pix said, you'd need a single ejector chute in the wheel well for the MG-151 or MK108 cannons instead of the two supplied for the D-9's MG131 machine guns.

Here's my D-11, you can see the bigger hole in the spinner.

Jon,
I was in my kit storage area today and found a kit that I have had for years and had forgotten about, and I thought it would be ideal for this GB...the DML Ta 152C.



I will be building this kit and maybe the Academy 1/72 scale D-9 for the GB, I can't start them until my two current projects are finished and it might be two weeks or longer until they are done.

Matrixone

Thanks for the info fellas. I'm just doing some research and trying to decide on what scheme and variant to do at the moment. I should recieve my Revell kit in the mail this week hopefully.

Looks good Jon great build

I got a little more done on the D-11 almost ready for primer. In these pics you can see the strips of styrene I had to add to fill the large gaps at the wing to fuselage joint.

QUOTE: Originally posted by blkhwkmatt http://www.jrutman.com/

Looks like I'm going to order the replacement wing and the D-13 Conversion kit from this site. All the reviews that I've seen and the references that I have looked at seem to line up very well with these parts. I am having to resist the urge to order the engine and cowling parts as well, that would drive this kit cost way too far up!!!

Next time I'll make sure that I purchase the new mold Hase 190 D.

cant wait to start on this bad boy!!!

I started building the EagleParts resin cockpit, it is absolutly amazing. There is so much detail that I almost dont want to put it into the model. Once i have completed it I'll post pics - probably before I mount the sidewalls, etc. I am equally impressed with the detailed info that came with the eaglecals decals. Very impressive!!!

Hope to post some pics soon.

Got my Revell D-11 kit in the mail today. Looks very nice in the box. It shares alot of parts with the Dragon A series kits, but with alot less flash to clean up. Glad I got the PE set for it though, because the PE parts found in the Dragon kit are all plastic. Might start some work on it soon.

Got a scheme in mind for your build yet Pingy

Not yet mate. I'm still looking at pics and profiles. I'll let you know when I choose a paint scheme. I'm not gonna use the decals from the kit because they are a mile out of register. Got some spares that I might use.

Yeah Daniel i'm looking at getting aset of Eagle strike decals for my D-9.....

Mkhoot I can see the styrene strips you used to fill the wingroot gap, looks like the engine cover/cowl peice was troublesome as well,something that needs attention with the Tamiya D-9 kit as well........Looking forward to seeing some paint on it mate

Jules That's what the tri-master/Dragon/DML/Hasegawa/italeri/Revell FW-190 kits are all about. There is much trimming, filling, shimming and sanding needed to get the most out of it. But it's well worth it in the end, they build into a great looking, accurate model. I like them more than the Tamiya kits even though they take more work.

I would prefer a D-13 Daniel but i've had the Tamiya kit for over 2 years and i have the eduard coloured PE set to go in it as well, so bearing in mind that i've spent over $80:00 on this model i can't really justify to myself spending more on a D-13, but maybe i can stash the PE set and use it at a later date on a D-12 or 13, i dunno yet.......