Moto GP group build '05

racer155 wrote:

I don't really think I can salvage the parts so I might end up buying a new model and taking the calipers.

Hey, Hey , Hey!!! Now stop for a moment, unless you have melt the calipers over an open fire I think we'll guide you through the process.

If the parts are a REAL mess you can start by stripping off the paint to get back to square one. This can be done with braking fluid or something similar. Then do like this:

For raised Brembo lettering:
Paint the letters with the letter color (most often red) and let dry. You don't have to be especially careful so just dab the paint on those calipers, I mostly paint the whole letter side so that you don't get edge build ups with the red paint.
Then take out the golden paint and paint the whole part. All of it. Let dry.
Next step is to take out your finest abrasive paper. Just let it slide across the lettering a couple of times. This will remove the golden color that has stuck on top of the red letters leaving distinct Brembo in red on top of gold.

For recessed Brembo lettering:
In this case we'll do it sort of the other way around. Paint the caliper gold. Take your red paint out and dillute it a lot. I'd say one part paint to eight parts solvent. Take your finest brush and dip it in the paint. Then just touch one of the letters in one end and the forces of nature will make the paint flood through the letter. Do the same for the rest and let cure. If you've had some bad luck you do have some overflooded letters. Take the fine paper I mentioned above and just slide it over the area to get rid of exessive red paint. This will hurt the golden paint so you have to take that one out again. Dip a brush in golden paint and then brush it off on a piece of paper so that it almost lose all the paint it holds. Now use the brush to paint over the lettering. This technique is called dry brushing and will not fill the letters.

Any questions and I'll be most happy to answer them as I know you'll get bad *** results from this techniques :-)

/joel

Hi everyone!...

Can somebody tell me how to paint the front calipers' "brembo" lettering without messing up the part?

I already tried and.....failed, misserably!

I don't really think I can salvage the parts so I might end up buying a new model and taking the calipers.

Thanks a lot!

Racer#155

Hi guys!

Does anyone have some reference photos of the 2005 Rolfo bike? I need pics of both race version and test bike.

best regards

Joel

Hi Again

This was my first ever attempt at figure modelling, I know it is not technically correct to have tobacco logos on a non-tobacco bike but will do for now (I have 1/2 completed a tobacco logo version of the M1). I used the Eloso figure and the Studio 27 decal set, both purchased from Mediamix. Progressing slowly on the Rossi NSR500 test bike!

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shayne wright wrote:

checkmate598-Pm me if you want and will send you some that I have spare no need to spend money or even send money ,just glad to help a fellow modeler, never know I might need help some time. Shayne

Well Well Well, aren't people beginning to finish!! How nice to see!!

Checkmate598: Great Ducati. Why haven't I started one of those Desmos?? They are stunning. Did you use the front fork set or the standard kit one? Can't really judge from the pictures.

Bushpig: I think that M1 is a real stunner! And that you've been able to achieve that shine using enamels is a totally unbelievable for me, such a great job!

Simon: To get judged by others is one of the best ways to improve your building technique. I pretty much like to come with criticism of other peoples builds and like to get it myself as long as it's well founded. To the point, when entering a new arena (as you did now starting a bike) it's always a bit scary to post your progress as you never know what people that feel comfy in that particular arena will think. I think you've done a great job on that Suzuki. The blue color is quite hard to work with but I think you've done it justice. On your next bike (cause you're going to do another one right? RIGHT? ;-) ) I would suggest you to do some slight weathering on the exhaust system. Among all alterations from an OOB build I would say this on is what gives the bike most life. Try it I'll think you'll like it.

My best regards

Joel

Hi Shayne

Thanks for the comments. Re the shine I keep my approach pretty simple, a few thin coats of Tamiya gloss enamel in appropriate colour, building up slowly and sanding with waterpaper after each coat (1200 grit) to get rid of the pesky bits of dust and tissue that always seem to find their way into a coat somewhere! The final enamel coat sprayed on as wet as possible without running. Then simply finsih with a coat of X22 clear, apply decals (of cousre using Micro sol / set) and finish with a last coat of x22, again as wet as possible.

Re the kit M1 itself it is a very familiar build and follows pretty much the old sequece. There is a new sprue with all the updated parts but other than that it's the same. I also have another 4 of them in my cupboard but can't face going through it all again (prior to this had done 3 versions of the 2004 bike!). Thats why I am tackling the Dexter models decal version of Rossis NSR test bike.

Hi all,

I know it's taken me a long time but I did finish the RGV eventually. This is my first bike so please don't judge it too harshly!!!

Sorry I know you've all seen these but just testing the attaching of thumbnails

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Thanks, I will give it a try next time.

I used the MSM additional decal set, purchased from Mediamix. The bonus with this set is that for a change you get more than value for money as there is also a set of numbers etc for the Valencia version. Overall the quality is fine though I was a little disappointed with the clarity of the stickers / insurance disk that go on the clear part of the fairing. The detail is not as good as one would expect say from Cartograph but not the end of the world.

Not clear in the pictures but I also added CF to all parts that needed it and it makes such a difference (I was so pleased I even went ahead and did the inside of all the body panels!). I also used a lot of techniques picked up in the course of this forum so thanks to all for helping me to improve my skills. 

Hi everyone. Hope I have got this picture posting thing right, can't see how to have the thumbnail like the rest of you have so maybe someone can enlighten me.

Finished my Rossi 2005 Laguna Seca bike. Hope you like it. Next I'm going to do the Rossi NSR 500 test bike using the Dexter decal set.

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Nice jobs, Andrew and Checkmate!  Hey Checkmate, what did you use for the clear rear brake line tubing? 

Changing the subject slightly... has anyone heard anything concrete as to exactly why we're seeing the special edition M1's from Tamiya first with no #46, and no "GOOOO!!!!" ?  I read HLJ's website that said they assumed there were licensing issues with Il Dottore and his number, but then why not at least a non-tobacco blue bike?  Does Gauloises have the rights to the colors blue, white and yellow?  Not much progress on my Duc, Football season is occupuying most of my time now, and it's not easy building and trying to watch a game at the same time.  Hope all your projects are going well.

Here's my Ducati:

Hi Checkmate

I follow the following procedure:

• Sand all parts with 600 grit water paper to give the primer something to grip on
• Fill and blemishes etc
• Spray on one light coat Tamiya Surface Primer (white) to check for blemishes
• Lightly sand premier with 1500 Tamiya water paper
• Spray a heavier coat of primer and ensure a smooth satin finish I have found that the primer needs to go on quite wet or it comes out as orange peel
• Lightly sand the second primer with 2000 Tamiya water paper
• Spray first colour coat
• Check for errors or blemishes and sand if necessary with 2000 Tamiya water paper but just a very light sanding
• Spray second colour coat nice and wet
• Polish with Tamiya compound if necessary
• Decal the model
• Apply one light clear coat Tamiya TS13 works best for me
• Check for errors and blemishes
• Apply second colour coat and polish to smooth finish
• Apply Tamiya Wax for final finish

There are a few thing I do every time when spraying

• Wash the parts carefully after each handling
• Check the parts before spraying under the magnifier and remove any dust
• Spray the coat so they go on “wet”
• I only use Tamiya TS paints decanted to my airbrush and use a low pressure 1 bar

Never post pictures of all the lousy paint jobs!

Andrew

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, you've got such a lovely shine on those bikes Andrew. I don't know how you do it but they seem so smooth! My best for this one as well.

/Joel

Hi Shayne

I cross-kitted the Tamiya 2003 Repsol Honda and the Tamiya 2003 Rossi Valencia kit. I used the low exhausts and all the fittings together with the lower LHS cowling from the Valencia kit.    I did have a slight misfit with the lower cowl clicking into the side cowls on the LHS I forgot to check the fit and assumed it would be okay?

The decals were fine had no problems there and the fit of all the other parts first class since they are all Tamiya parts anyway