F1 Group Build

Here's where I'm at. Going to buy some wood today so I can build my new work desk. Once that is built, I might start some work on my T4.

I bought the Lion Roar PE set for my FW24. It is a great PE set, but the instructions are a bit confusing.

Ryan, I have some other detail sets for the FW24s (still to be built). If you can scan the instructions (or take a pic of it) and put up a pic of the PE parts, I can have a look at what I have and we can maybe figure it out that way.
Should be overlapping parts going onto the same places, with maybe clearer instructions. Let's try to sort this thing out and get you going. Not saying I will be able to help, but will give it a try.
It may not be quick, but at least it's worth a shot. I will not be available for the first part of next week, so that will be the reason for not responding at that time. Let's see what we can figure out before then, at least.

folks, i took a peek in the box of the tamiya ferrari F2001 kit...
it really looks like a fun kit 2 build w/ great detail even OOB,
& i'm looking forward 2 getting in2 it...
but i'm still not sure if that will b my kit choice 4 this GB.
i have a Revell Jordan-Mugen-Honda F1 kit in 1/24 scale on order
& want 2 wait & c what that one looks like b4 i decide.
(i'm fonda hondas ...)
looking forward 2 building something very very fast & nimble
w/ u all !

frosty

Frosty, the F2001 is a great kit to build. Practically falls together! I converted one into a BAR004 recently and was sort of left feeling very bad having to "kill" such a good kit. Really, give it a try!

There are two Jordan's by Revell - which did you order? I recently did an EJ10 (the buzzin' hornets one) but I know there is the one with the snake as well (bitten hissen?). Don't know about the other one, but the buzzin' hornets had a bit more work than a F2001 will have. But a very nice car to build...

You guys are quite quiet out here! Anyways, I have what I suspect will be the correct colour for the light blue. Will be done by a/b, not canned spray. Still containing myself, itching to start as I am. I will first finish one model before starting this one! Building four at a time cannot be a success...

Ryan, you get sorted with those instructions?

QUOTE: Originally posted by SeaBee Frosty, the F2001 is a great kit to build. Practically falls together! I converted one into a BAR004 recently and was sort of left feeling very bad having to "kill" such a good kit. Really, give it a try! There are two Jordan's by Revell - which did you order? I recently did an EJ10 (the buzzin' hornets one) but I know there is the one with the snake as well (bitten hissen?). Don't know about the other one, but the buzzin' hornets had a bit more work than a F2001 will have. But a very nice car to build...

SeaBee:
the Jordan kit is the 'buzzin' hornets' one...
the kit looks very nice, but i was a bit disappointed
2 see that it's a curbside model, no engine
or transmission parts. of course, i don't mind a bit of
scratchbuilding... but i think i'll take ur suggestion &
build the tamiya F2001 kit 4 this GB, otherwise i will
probably end up w/ another major project added 2 the logjam.
plumbing & wiring the F2001 motor will probably b enough
of a challenge 4 me 4 now !
sorry 4 the l8 reply !

frosty

ryanpm:
i'm officially in on this one...
i will b building the tamiya ferrari F2001 kit in 1/20 scale.
it will b interesting 2 'work big' 4 a change, LOL !

frosty

Greetings Fellow followers of the Bernie Circus:
Is it to late to join this merry band? Just finished a (let's just say it took a long time to finsh) Williams FW-11B in 1/20 and 1/43. I should be in therapy. Instead, opened up the Studio 27 McLaren MP4/19B last night and started work. Interesting kit with the twin keel design, may have to do some mod work on it. This afternoon, I found you fine people. Cheers to all.

The Bernie Circus with ever-changing rules! New qualifying rules, back to old tyre rules, new engine restrictions, new rear wings (again) and some more plans afoot... Not to mention some rules still aren't out in the open. Never ceases to amaze.

You need some serious therapy - at least for the eyes. I've just looked at some 43rd models - how you guys do it, I will never know! Good to see another S27 build in the GB. Mine will be my first attempt at it, so I might end up pestering you with real stupid questions, if you don't mind...

Frosty, that is the bummer about the Revell kits, yes. Very curbside... (But then again, talking of curbside... so is the majority of S27's kits!) At least the Sauber I am fiddling around with now has an attempt at an engine, unlike the square block of the EJ10. But that is quite a fun build. Take your time with the rear wing and with the wheel (suspension) allignment. I did not take enough care with the latter and now have a sliiight uneven wheelbase. (Or a scew table!) At least it seems as if there are some steady improvement from Revell.

The ever changing face of F1. Thank the gods that tire changes are back. That new rear wing? When pigs fly...ugliest thing I have seen since the x-wing era. I'll withhold judgment on the qualifying format. At the races, single car qualifying is BORING! On TV, well at least you got Hobbes and Matchet. Worked on the McLaren last night. Gotta luv S27, hours of clean-up, paint, shake and voila, it's done! Yea, right!

I'll try and post a photo of the 1/43 Williams in the next week or so.

Frosty:
Look for the Acu-stion detail sets for the F2001. There is also the detail set from Scale Motorsports that is pretty decent. Mediamixhobby.com is supposed to have most of Acu-stion in stock. The few things I have been able to get from them look awesome.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Il Leone Frosty: Look for the Acu-stion detail sets for the F2001. There is also the detail set from Scale Motorsports that is pretty decent. Mediamixhobby.com is supposed to have most of Acu-stion in stock. The few things I have been able to get from them look awesome.

Il Leone:
benevenuto ! (r u a Nigel Mansell fan, by chance ?)
thanx 4 the info, i'll check out those sets u mentioned, hopefully there will
b pix available online so i'll know what i'm getting into !
best of luck w/ ur build !

frosty

Anyone has experience with Red5 model b4? I guess it's the only resin model maker which have full detail for their F1 kit.

I just finished my current project and I cleared the decks I'll be starting my McLaren M23 tonight. I can't wait.

I too have started. I got to a stage where I couldn't do anything with my current project so pulled out the Tamiya 1/20th BT46 and the Club M resin fan car transkit that I've had for years. The transkit consists of resin front wings, body top, engine sides, rear wing) and white metal (exhaust, fan blades, exhaust support) bits. The instructions are poor and in Japanese and there is one colour photo f the finished kit which also shows indifferent fitting of the body. Sure enough when I dry fitted parts I can see several fit problems coming up. The original Tamiya kit has a removable cockpit cowling and engine cover, I think I will glue down the replacement resin parts. I will also have to spray the dark royal blue used along the engine cowl sides as the transkit didn't have any additional decals. The fan car had a slightly different colour scheme across the engine cover. Fortunately the Tamiya decals provide all the script that goes over the blue as seperate decals so I won't have any match-up problems - just masking problems instead! There is a bit of pin holing in the resin and one corner of the rear wing has broken. I'll take a picture of the transkit next weekend and post. Maybe I'll have some of the original kit together by then as well.

cupcai: what do yuo mean "full detail"....? If it's engine detail: the first one with engine detail will be the MP4/20, which is (still) not released yet. And it is a metal kit, not resin. Their R25 will have engine detail as well, but will only be re;eased after that. Their previous efforts were the F2004 (1st) and the R5, neither of which had engine detail.

I have heard very good things about it, though. Some guys commented about the F2004's sidepods being a bit too short - whether or not this is so visible that anyone will notice it (esp now that the car is not current) I will not know. I will try them out for sure some time. The stack is just too big to fit another kit in at this stage!

Here is a link to a guy that built both of their existing kits, looks good to me!
http://www.f1modeler.com/

As for resin kits with engine detail - I am currently awaiting Model Factory Hiro kits, both metal and not resin, but with engine detail, at least. (97T and BT52) And they are not as pricey as some S27 stuff.

Getting to the stage where I am about to finish and decal my current one (Revell Sauber). Will start working on the R25 after that... And yep, from what I read up thusfar, that seems about to be the gist of it: spend ages cleaning, pre-building, aligning, then give it a "quick paint and slap-together"! Quick releative to the rest of the process, that is!

And after that mouthfull, I forgot something!

Frosty: don't know about comparative prices, but I would go for the SMS detail set before the rest. I also suspect the have both a PE set and a super-detail set for the F2001, the latter of which was on a special a while ago. They also have templated CF decals for the kit, Marlboro decals, etc... Depends on what you want to do. Maybe the PE set will be suffice.

You might want to peek over there: http://www.scalemotorsport.com/default.asp

Hi boys. Just discovered this GB, & it's right up my alley. Count me in. Only problem now is - what to do. I've only got maybe 50 of the suckers to do! Has to be something a little different. I'll get back to ya when I pull the model room apart. I'm thinking it will be strictly oob, except for CF & BMF. BTW, when does this finish?

Jules:- Where do you get Easy Off from? I've not heard of it. I have used Lift-Off from Polly Scale before & it does a pretty good job.

Mark:- Brabham BT 46 fan car! That's an ambitious project. Can't wait to see pics. Raced once, won once - Anderstorp 78.

Cheers
Shaun

QUOTE: Originally posted by shaun68 [Mark:- Brabham BT 46 fan car! That's an ambitious project. Can't wait to see pics. Raced once, won once - Anderstorp 78.

Actually technically it was raced twice, but only once in the F1 champs. Piquet raced it at Donnington (1979?) in a non championship race raising funds for the Gunnar Neilson Cancer Fund where he came 4th.

QUOTE: Originally posted by nicholma QUOTE: Originally posted by shaun68 [Mark:- Brabham BT 46 fan car! That's an ambitious project. Can't wait to see pics. Raced once, won once - Anderstorp 78. Actually technically it was raced twice, but only once in the F1 champs. Piquet raced it at Donnington (1979?) in a non championship race raising funds for the Gunnar Neilson Cancer Fund where he came 4th.

Well there you go. Sorry, my research didn't extend that far. Still, can't wait to see it. I'm a big fan of Gordon Murray's work. The guy was a genius before his time. Imagine if he'd worked for Colin Chapman!

Shaun

folks, the F2001 has left the starting line !
well, all i've really gotten done is 2 look over the instructions
& hit the body w/ italian red & the undertray, engine & suspension parts
w/ metallic black.
the body color is so close 2 the molded styrene that it almost looks
exactly the same, but it is painted...
tamiya plastic & tamiya rattlecans go pretty well together,
the paint went on w/ absolutely no problems &
looks really good so far...
i'll post some pix once i get a few pieces glued together.
this is going 2 b fun !!!

frosty

Seabee,
You're right, it's a all metal kit with full detail including cockpit and engine. Just saw it in Mediamixhobby and the price simply beyond my reach. The kit look pretty impresive.

RE: Red 5 kits. I saw the Jag R5 kit and it is awesome! The early production bodies were really rough and would need alot of smoothing before a decent finish could be had. But they are everything they say and more. I'm thinking I will need to add the McLaren to my collection. And the Jag looked so cool, so maybe....

Frosty: brave one! I have never had sucess with rattle can. The Tamiya color is not bad, just not accurate enough for me. The best results I have had, color wise, were with Finisher's 2-step process and BBR finger nail polish. The Ferrari color is real hard to get right.

As for mine, the MP4/19B is slowly making progress. All the parts are cleaned up and the body is nearly ready for primer. Few more things to get done and then fire up the airbrush and MCW. Woo hoo!

Frosty, it may be only me, but I tend to use TS49 (bright red) instead of Italian red (TS8?) on the newer Ferrari's. But I have to agree, it goes on very well.

I am decalling the Sauber at this stage, might be able to start (at last!) on the R25. Then again, looks like we're going to have such a nice weekend weatherwise that I might be cycling a lot, rather than staying indoors!

Hi SeaBee I've nearly finished the rallycar GB!!!

As usual research into the BT46b has taken several enjoyable hours, found some really good stuff for the BT46 and then came across some photos of the 46B taken at Goodwood a couple of years ago, including a cockpit shot so maybe some extra detailing coming up!

Hey Mark, I've put my pics of the dirtied focus up on the General Auto forum - on P2 (at least) by now... I must admit, I got confused between you and Joel in the post, sorry!

Good luck with this one!

I would like to get in how about a 1/20 MP4/8 Marlboro with Studio 27 markings and seatbelts. Rene'

Ok folks, perhaps someone wiser than I can answer this. How do you upload a photo to here? Anyway, have a photo of the McLaren and a Williams that I finished about a month ago.

Oh BTW, for de-chroming parts, try liquid bleach. I stick the parts in the tupperware and pour on the bleach. No smell, no scrubbing and clean parts after a few minutes.

May the Red 5 rule the Grand Prix Masters!!!

Il Leone: You have to upload your pic(s) somewhere such as Photobucket. Then use that url to link to there... Mostly a full url with IMG placeholders are provided, but if not you can go to the proper "reply to topic" page, from there use the "insert image". There should be IMG and /IMG placeholders (or something like that) on either side of the url...

As to the Red5 kits, MMH has been more expensive on the previous releases as well. Maybe try one of the US shops, is what I'd suggest.

As for Red5 and the GPM... we'll just have to see! Maybe some of the wily old foxes will outsmart the lion...