F1 Group Build

Can't wait till 6am on a Sunday morning to actually get up and watch it.

so Bahrain is history, wow, what a race !

my vote 4 best drive has 2 go 2 kimi raikkonnen, finishing 3rd after starting

from the back of the grid  & most likely in his back-up car after that accident in quali...

if i were the other teams, id b seriously worried about just how fast that mclaren car is !!!!

second best drive: nico rosberg finishing in the points in his 1st F1 start ...

my vote 4 best moments: fernando alonso driving by the car which spun rite in front of him &

almost took him out of the race, or that final pit stop by the renault crew that got him out just in

front of michael schumacher, was that ever close !!!!

anyone doing any building ?

 

frosty

Build shelters - it's gonna start raining soon!

We had a nice long weekend over here and I actually got around to the R25! Front suspension done. Not 100%, but noted what needs to be done in the final build. Seat and floor resin parts cleaned up and ready for use. So the seatbelts and cleaning up of the steering wheel (tedious job!) to be done next. Nothing waiting on the steering heel, anyways. Can sit and clean that in front of the telly...

But to have at last progressed some on this kit again, makes me feel muuuch better!

The long winter season is finally over.  At least for F1.  Still frozen in my part of the world.  Hope everyone in the US section of our group has recovered from those lovely middle of the night races.  Great races, and you gotta love the qualifying format!  Glad to see someone has found the workbench again.  I'm still in the homeless stage, new place isn't done and I had to get out of the old one.  I'm going nuts not being able to work on the kits.  

Is this GB still open for new members ?

Unless objected to by our Bernie, I say the more the merrier.   What are you bringing to the grid Dan? 

I'm not sure yet, it's been years since I made an F1.  What I am sure of is that it will be a Tamiya-kit.

C'mon Dan, join up!

If you're wondering, the newer F1's by Tamiya are actually very nice to build. Mp4/13 onwards. Well, basically F2000, F2001 and FW24, to make a full list. FW24 a bit more intricate with paintscheme's of course. But the older one's of course have their own appeal. They just made things like the wings easier to allign, etc. In some just before that, they actually have pre-built wings, but that makes the inside a bit difficult.
But take your own pick - don't think they made a bad F1 model!

Haha, Frosty, there might be lots of competition for the rest of the posium, it seems there's not much comp for the top step... The rest of the teams have to get their act together...

As for the R25's pre-build: did the seat and belts, installed it and even put the top onto the floorpan! Major accomplishment... Will start on some of those pesky winglets and chimneys through the week.

Don't worry, I WILL join, but first I'll have to go shopping since I don't have one of those machines in my stash

I remember building an F1 about 20 years ago that I really loved, the shape and the color. Don't ask me what it was but I'll try to give you a description.  It was dark red (not the Ferrari-kind) and had stripes in dark and light blue, the windscreen was blue tinted as well, and IF I'm not mistaken the main sponsor was either Martini or Parmalat.
Anyway, I'll check what they have in my local hobbyshop...

DanCooper wrote:

Don't worry, I WILL join, but first I'll have to go shopping since I don't have one of those machines in my stash I remember building an F1 about 20 years ago that I really loved, the shape and the color. Don't ask me what it was but I'll try to give you a description.  It was dark red (not the Ferrari-kind) and had stripes in dark and light blue, the windscreen was blue tinted as well, and IF I'm not mistaken the main sponsor was either Martini or Parmalat. Anyway, I'll check what they have in my local hobbyshop...

If it's tamiya it's a brabham BT46.  The sponsor was Parmalat.  Most of these together with a large portion of Tamiya F-1 cars have gone OOP though.  but there is always ebay.

The BT46 has been rereleased - I have seen a "clear" version at my LHS. Sounds like that's the car, anyways. Aaaah, the good ole days!

Ah yes, now I remember the name... Brabham, very nice car, well in my opinion anyway, but like the french say "de gout et de couleur, on ne dispute pas" (on taste and color we don't argue).

Anyway, remember when I said I was certain it would be a Tamiya kit ?   What have I done, what have I done, I bought a Revell 1/24 Toyota TF 102....  Will I be disappointed by it ???

To be continued....

BTW, while examening the parts I noticed something that looks like a "wood" texture at the bottom of the chassis... that can't be right, can it ???

Some good amount of sanding work on the body.  If you are looking for details, no you pretty much won't find it in that kit, the suspension is more toyish than a 1/24 hotwheel F1 diecast if you haven't seen it already, BUT it's a nice and easy build and the decals are incredible, so it builds into a nice representation of the toyota F1.  The TF102 is also one of the later kits that has nice quality tires.  The ones prior to it... even the FW23 had crap.  I built one for my friend who works for panasonic and currently have their F-2003GA, renault r23, and the F-2005, MP4/20 on their way to my door if  you want to get more info on those.

Well, I bought it, so I'll have to build it.... but just till I get my hands on a Tamiya... too bad they don't produce as many nice sportscars as they used to do in the good old days.
So, what about that woodgrain that's on the bottom ?  Is it really wood on a 21th century sportscar ?

Thank the FIA for that little piece of technological wonder....  You may recall the sparks flying off 80's and early 90's cars from the titanium skidplates. Well, nowadays there's just brownish puffs. Unless that's just the drivers realising at what speed they're traveling towards a corner...

They introduced it to reduce speed in the 90's by enforcing an elevated ride-hight (thus less aero downforce). The "plank" (as it is called) may not wear thinner than a certain measure - which I can't recall. Schumi even got docked his points in one race (Spa 94?) having spun and skidded across a rumblestrip, which of course wore the plank down too much.

As for the kit - I haven't built that one. To add to what's allready been said: the few Revell's I have built learned me to relax, build it, be prepared to work on it a bit (everything don't faal into place like newer Tamiya kits) and you'll get a very nice curbside model in the end. Decals are usually super! Build it, enjoy it, I don't think you'll be sorry.


As for the comment about the sportscars - the only luck there is that they are re-releasing a lot of them. I recently got hold of the Jaguar after years of absence. Seen the Sauber C9 around as well and I think the Mercedes Sportscar will also be re-released shortly. Just keep the scanners peeled, they'll pop up. Unfortunately nothing new. Would love an Audi or Aston Martin!

Thanks for the info on the plank there,  amazing how many things have changed since don't follow the F1 scene anymore.  Anyway, now that Schummy has been thrown off his throne things are beginning to be a bit more interesting nowedays.

As for other news... I just got home with a re-release of Tamiya's Tyrell P34 (item nr 20053), that's the oddball with 6 wheels instead of 4 and that's the kit I'll be doing for the GB...

Something new from Tamiya?  I wish.  I think we had this discussion before, I'm all about a current  F1 car in 1/12.  Say... an MP4/20, I'd even get excited about the Renault.  (Sorry, not a fan of french cars.)  The only new item of late is the rally cars.  The word I keep hearing is Tamiya lost their shirts on the FW-14B and are reluctant to bring out anything new in 1/12.  I keep bugging Scale Motorsports to do a detail set for the FW-14.  No go yet, but we can dream.  If you are really sick, take a look at MG Models Plus from Italy.  Most of the recent Ferraris in 1/12 and some really neat older stuff.  Be warned, spendy kits and it will take ALOT of work to make them look nice.  I'm still dragging along on the F399. 

I don't understand Revell doing the F1 cars in 1/24, someone really needs to explain that one.  And the really nasty seam line along the side of the tub.  Ouch, fun making that disappear.  On the flip side if you want to avoid resin it's the only way to go for "modern" cars. 

New house is done, with any luck the workbench will be in operation in another month or so.  Finally I can get back to the MP4/19B.  It feels like forever since I had a chance to ruin a kit!   SeaBee, how is the Renault coming along?  Anyone else out there getting anything accomplished lately?

OK, I'm on my way now...  glue on engine block is setting as I type, when completely dry I'll do some filling on the (small) gaps and put some paint on it.

It's gonna be real fun "going back in time" with this kit, as I was looking at the parts, the idea struck me that if I hadn't known the kit is actually over 20yo, I wouldn't even believe it's Tamiya

Il Leone wrote:

I don't understand Revell doing the F1 cars in 1/24, someone really needs to explain that one.

Actually that does make sense to me, after all, all other cars and trucks (except the millitary of course) are in the same 1/24 or 1/25, so they can be used together.

Il Leone wrote:

After dropping the jar for the airbrush, I finally managed to get a new one via mail order.  It arrived just in time to be packed up with the rest of the house.  Moving really puts a crimp in the model building.

You waited all that time for a jar ???
May I give you a hint (and all other airbrushers as well)... when you brake your AB jar, don't just wait till your replacement arrives.
You know those (usually black) plastic cups that contain 35mm film ?  Take one of those, make a hole in the lid, unscrew the connection thinghy from your AB jar-lid and install it onto the plastic lid of your film cannester, et voila : an instand replacement (and if you have lots of those ; also disposable) jar for your AB
Oh, and the fact that we use digital cams shouldn't be problem, I sometimes (at least once a month) go to a photographer and ask for those empty cannisters, they're usually glad to get rid of them anyway.

BTW sorry for posting three times in a row in one day, but I haven't figuered out yet how to do a quote in an edit of a post...

Sorry, was taking my time to stop laughing, picking myself up from the floor, etc.. The progress on the Renault is a sad situation. Still pre-building, but at least the front suspension is done, too, as is the seat and safety belts, the body is attached to the floor pans and the chimneys are done and attached.

Next is to build up that little winglets on the sidepods and (oh bugger...) the rear wing. On standby, so got nothing done this weekend. Next weekend, though, might be muuuch better regarding progress!

Hi fellas,

Sorry for neglecting this GB a bit lately. Been too busy. I'm not even close to starting my build, but hopefully I should be able to do something sooner or later.

BTW, I went to the Australian F1 GP last weekend. Had a great time. Got thousands of pics too, Let me know if you want to see any. Brought home some interesting souvenirs too, Massa's car crashed right near me, so I got some chunks of carbon fibre off his car. Got some good samples of modern Ferrari red too. Good for matching the colour if I ever do a  modern ferrari build.

Well, here's my first progress pic in this build...


I'm not sure, but given some strange "things" on the bottomplate of the car, I have the impression that this orriginally was a "motorized" kit although I had no idea those little F1-kits ever existed motorized, but there clearely is a "box" that has the exact proportions to hold a AA or AAA batterie...

I did Melbourne in 2004.  That town knows how to put on a show!  What an awesome event.  If the USGP was half as good as Australia it would be awesome.  Four days of cars on track, the V8 series, plane flyovers, you name it.  The classic collection is pretty impressive as well and great to see them get track time as well.  And in the evening there was always something going on and it was usually free admission.  If you want to get spoiled at a race, Melbourne would be high on the list.  I hear tell Montreal is much the same way, haven't made that one yet.

DanCooper wrote:

I'm not sure, but given some strange "things" on the bottomplate of the car, I have the impression that this orriginally was a "motorized" kit although I had no idea those little F1-kits ever existed motorized, but there clearely is a "box" that has the exact proportions to hold a AA or AAA batterie...

wow, details in 1/24.  that looks cool.  i have two 1/24 gunze kits that are motorized.  those "reinforced" suspension on the revell kits actually look alike. hmm... time to go home and take a look at the F-2003GA and see if it's the same case.

EDITED:

oops, my bad I forgot you are working on the 1/12 P34.  lousy email notifications... 

Dan:
I've got a double action Paasche that seems to only like the jars designed for it.  I get real pick-up problems with anything else.  Unfortunately, most of the local places only stock Badger, Aztek or something of the single action ilk. 

The 70s/80s Tamiya kits were meant for small motors and I think some kits came with them then.  The most obvious of these is the Porsche 956-962 kits.  Clearly a slot car body and tray.  If you look at some of the early 1/12 from Tamiya, also pretty obvious they were meant for motors, the Lotus 72 comes to mind. 

BTW, nice work!

archangel571 wrote:

oops, my bad I forgot you are working on the 1/12 P34.  lousy email notifications...

Actually it's the 1/20 P34 I'm working on, so were closer at your first attempt

................  typographical error..........  =P 

my mind was drifting among those tamiya bikes and F1 cars at work debating on which one to build next.  as of right now i hate myself for building up such a big stash.  it is kinda sad that Tamiya stopped doing 1/12 large scale beasts after the MP4/6 and FW14.  i want a 312T4 but it's so hard to find one aside from paying a huge premium on ebay.

OMG what should I do....

All is still ok with the car, but I can't find the charger for my batteries anymore, that means no progress pics> I won't be able to get a new charger for at least a week. Should I continue building (without taking progress pics) or should I wait till I can get a new charger ???

Another "need to know" item I've ordered one of the "new" Tamiya releases, it's the Raybrig NSX 2005, looks real cool, but I'll try to find someone who can make decals to do the Epson GT racer and even more, I'll get myself a truck and trailer kit to make the complete racing team trailer
wich should look something like this :



What you see on the picture is actually a papermodel you can download for free