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♠ Allied Aces GB (WW1 -WW2) April 2006 Start - Sept 2006 Finish

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Posted by darson on Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:12 PM

 rjkplasticmod wrote:

Darren, I can't recall ever using any Lifelike decals, but I have used several of Cutting Edge sheets.  They are very good quality, right up there with Aeromaster & Eagle Strike.

Regards,  Rick

Thanks for that Rick, if the quality of their decals are good then I think I will stick to Cutting Edge as they are a little cheaper than Lifelike and I have dealt with the Meteor Production guys before (for resin and masks) and have had no worries.

Cheers Darren

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:08 AM

Darren, I can't recall ever using any Lifelike decals, but I have used several of Cutting Edge sheets.  They are very good quality, right up there with Aeromaster & Eagle Strike.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by darson on Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:23 AM

I'm tossing up at the moment on which decal maker to choose for my build.  I can go for either Cutting Edge Modelworks or Lifelike Decals.  Does anybody have any experience with either of these manufacturers that can be if either or both are OK.

Cheers

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:58 PM
Hello Jules, I'm putting together a collection of all the major contributing countries top aces aircraft of ww1 in 1/32 and I'm looking for a pic of Little's Camel so I can accurately represent it.  I dont know if they do his decals in 1/32 but I figure if I can find a pic I can replicate them easy enough.  I was wondering if you know where I can find a pic or if you have one you can post or email to me.  Anyway I'm stoked to be in on my first group build, any help you can give me would be great.  Thanks, TL
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 13, 2006 6:49 PM

Well my kit is here and ready to go, funnything is i ordered the Eduard Profipac sopwith triplane from snowy mountain models but they seemed to be dragging their heels and when i came across the kit for $40:00 at the last model expo  i snapped it up and wouldn't you know it i've just recieved the kit in the mail so now i have 2 triplanes, but it's all good the eduard WW1 kits are fantastic, much better than Roden and i'm sure i'll find the time to eventually make the second one......

Anyhows i'll be finishing the kit in the markings for Australias highest ever scoring fighter pilot or scout ace as they called them back them, Robert Alexander Little, i seem to have misplaced my book so here is what i remember of him from the top of my head...

R A Little was born in Hawthorn Victoria, when the war broke out he tried to join the AFC but thought his chances were thin given the amount of applicants for only a dozen places so he paid for a passage to England and joined the RNAS, from here on he flew over the western front  increasing his score rapidly flying a number of different machines including 2 triplanes, during 1918 he took off in a Sopwith Camel at night to intercept a formation of Gotha bombers which he attacked but was hit from defensive fire from a Gotha, shot through both thighs he managed an emergncy landing but bled to death before he was found, his final score was 47 confirmed victories......

Well thats about it when i find my book which profiles all Aussie aces with 5 or more victories from WW1 and WW2 i'll post up some more history including his victory sheet and a pic of himself......

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Posted by jboutin on Friday, January 13, 2006 9:15 AM
Well I just about went and got the little Academy 1:72 Spad XIII the other day.  I thought there weren't enough WW1 aces represented yet and I thought about doing George Guynemer's Spad "Vieux Charles".  I didn't get it but that's not to say I still won't, theres plenty of time.Wink [;)]
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Posted by jboutin on Friday, January 6, 2006 1:17 PM
Glad to have you back Nick.  Just let me know when you have decided on your build and I'll add it to your name on the front page.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 4, 2006 1:49 AM
I would like to join in on the fun,if thats ok.Let me check to see what ill use.Ill get back at you tomorrow.
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Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, January 3, 2006 9:46 AM

Happy new year folks!  I've been away thinking of other things besides modeling.  PZL and ygmodler, I'll add you to the front. 

Joe Rugby, you are 100% correct, for this build an ace referes to some one in a airpane, not an AA gun crew or other such group.  Tail/rear Gunners are accepted as in WW1 there were many "ace" teams that flew combat aircraft, like the Bristol F2B.

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Posted by PZL P.62 on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:26 PM
I will be building a 1/48 scale P-51D flown by col. John Landers. He is credited with 14.5 victories. Also, how do I put a badge in my signature?
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:10 AM
if i remember wasn't there a SBD Dauntless pilot that made ace i think his nickname was "Swede" and his last name began with a V i remember reading a book when i was a wee lad that he made ace defending his carrier.when no fighters were available he and another dauntless took off to defend the carriers. i think maybe it was at the battle of the coral sea
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, December 26, 2005 11:05 PM

Greetings from Sunny Albuquerque!!!

Just a quick observation here...even though most of it may be in kest...an "Ace" is in an Airplane...straight forward and simple enough...all of the other aces, tank, sub whatever got this handle because of the men in the air!

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, December 26, 2005 9:23 PM

Ok I might be in.  Depending on whether i finish everything else in time for this or depending on if i have to start before the date.Big Smile [:D]

Well ill probably be joing with Marion E. Carl,  USMC, 18.5 kills,  F4F-4 flying with VMF-223.

-Josiah

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, December 26, 2005 4:19 PM
how about a really lucky soviet conscript with a mosin-nagant that shot down 5 nazi planes? Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, December 26, 2005 7:36 AM
I think you have to take claims made by gunners with a pinch of salt, as some of the claims made by 8th AF gunners in a single mission equated to large chunks of the Luftwaffe! That and the fact they were often not backed up by official Luftwaffe records of losses.

Having said that I can remember reading about a B17 tail gunner in the Pacific who notched up a large number of confirmed kills. Apparently it was after they switched to the later models of B17 with the tail gun installation, which the Japanese were unaware of, and therefore continued to approach the aircraft from dead astern an slightly below, believing that they were both unobserved and invulnerable. Msot who tried didn't live long enough to realise their mistake! Can't for the life of me remember the guy's name.

If we allow gunners, are AA sites in as well?Wink [;)]

Karl

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Posted by darson on Monday, December 26, 2005 6:43 AM
 tho9900 wrote:

hmmmm... I just did a little research and on the official USAF website they have a section devoted to gunner aces vs. pilot aces.  Seems there were quite a few B-17 gunners honored as aces there. Problem is I don't feel like doing a B-17... I know, I know... they were instrumental in bringing the war to early end (a contentious point for me that I won't get into here...)



OK Tom now you've got me curious.  I would be very interested in hearing your point of view on heavy bombers.  As I don't hold strong opinions one way or the other, I am always keen to hear from someone who has a definite POV on the subject.

As a by the by, I was at a family BBQ today that involved 3 German civilians who lived through the bombing as well as former RAF Spitfire pilot whose principal mission was too as John put it "knock the daylights out of any building that looked even remotely suspicious".  This made for a lively BBQ as you might imagine.

Cheers

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Posted by jboutin on Friday, December 23, 2005 9:42 AM

Welcome to the GB Rudy_102!  I'll add you to the front. 

To get avatars on, in your profile editing, click it to 'on' then browse to the pic you want then click on update.  A message will come up saying it may take up to 10 minutes for changes to take effect. 

Tom, I like the P-39 idea, Pokryshkin was a P-39 ace but then again, he is a common subject, that is why I suggest a soviet female ace! (see previous post by me)

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, December 23, 2005 8:24 AM
 tho9900 wrote:

Karl - thanks to you as well!  You're so good at thinking up fringe... I should come to you first with these questions!  Wink [;)]

Tom, you're welcome.

There is a perverse pleasure to be derived from pursuing the obscure......

.....also people don't know when you've got it wrong!Wink [;)]

Karl

 

 

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, December 23, 2005 8:15 AM

Bob - thanks!  I'll have to take a look around... I know something will pop out at me... although that Cobra is a nice plane... I'll have to remember that one.  In fact it would be the first and only Soviet thing I have built!  hmmm I feel an interest growing...

Karl - thanks to you as well!  You're so good at thinking up fringe... I should come to you first with these questions!  Wink [;)]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, December 23, 2005 7:51 AM

Tom-I was researching the Eagle Strike Productions website and noticed that Aeromaster has decals for a Soviet P-39 Cobra with 'ace' status.   That's almost fringe....Wink [;)] 

ps-There were decals for Finnish Aces flying Buffalo's...but that's the wrong side.  Maybe later.....

Bob

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, December 23, 2005 6:51 AM
 jboutin wrote:

BTW I can't really make out your avatar, it looks like a duck with sunglasses sitting on a pool side recliner, am I close?

Close Jay.  If you look closely, there are two bullet holes to the upper left, hence the pictures title "Sitting Duck". Kinda summed up my years of working Material/Production Control in the Auto industry.... My next project is to find my old "Howard the Duck" comics in the attic and use Howard as an avatar.

 

Bob

 

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, December 23, 2005 2:07 AM
 tho9900 wrote:

I hate to think of doing a mainstream aircraft.  Wink [;)]

I'll just have to research more... like any of the non-US pilots flying for the USAF/USN etc...

Or how about a French ace from the Battle of France with a Hawk 75 such as Meslee?

Eduard do a set of decals for Battle of France aces, including Meslee, 2 Czech aces, and a Pole.

Pretty fringe!

Karl

 

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Posted by rudy_102 on Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:52 PM

How do you get avatars on?

 

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Posted by rudy_102 on Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:49 PM
I might try to do Francis Gabreski's P-47D-27 in 1/48 scale, but I'm not to sure about the camo (I'll try my best).
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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:42 PM

hmmmm... I just did a little research and on the official USAF website they have a section devoted to gunner aces vs. pilot aces.  Seems there were quite a few B-17 gunners honored as aces there. Problem is I don't feel like doing a B-17... I know, I know... they were instrumental in bringing the war to early end (a contentious point for me that I won't get into here...)

I hate to think of doing a mainstream aircraft.  Wink [;)]

 

I'll just have to research more... like any of the non-US pilots flying for the USAF/USN etc...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by jboutin on Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:06 PM

Bob, it was my wife's idea, she thought my Conan was silly.  I like this one too! 

I've been feeling a little schizophrenic the past two months...I started with Wayne Gretzky holding the Stanley Cup, then Conan, then for a brief period I was myself (in a ww1 flying cap), I like the Snoopy so I'm sticking with him from now on...maybe Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

A good GB badge is right, maybe a WW1 a/c build?  I have been meaning to do great war machine sometime.  May that GB will have to be far into the future (like 2008 at this rate...)Laugh [(-D] 

BTW I can't really make out your avatar, it looks like a duck with sunglasses sitting on a pool side recliner, am I close?

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:51 PM
Jay-I like the new avitar.  Would make a good Group Build Badge  Wink [;)]

Bob

 

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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:31 AM
ok jay here is my 2 selections for th aces gb. they are the f4u-1a corsair kepford and f-6f-3/5 hellcat minsiIII
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Posted by jboutin on Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:40 AM
How about one of the lovely Soviet FEMALE aces, such as Lidiya Litvyak (12 victories), Yekaterina Budanova (20 Victories) or Olga Yamischikova (17 victories)?  I would think that is pretty fringe.  I also remember reading about some gunners on bombers being aces.  Good luck finding something!
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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:36 AM
 tho9900 wrote:

Hmmm.. I heard my name posted and I appear.. of course I have a few unknown aces in mind... I'll get back with you on this one... I gotta add some fringe to this!  April is a good start date.. the roof should be fixd by then and my new model room built.

I remember a page I saw out here the other day that interested me... I just gotta find out who it was exactly.  I know he was not flying a plane you would expect an ace to fly.. (P-51, P-47 etc...)

 

I vaguely remember seeing a page or article where the rear gunner in a Vindicator (or maybe it was a Devestator) shot down a couple of Zeros during the Battle of Midway (I think).  Doubtful if any (rear gunners) made 'ace' status though....

Bob

 

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