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China-Burma-India Theater GB 2006-2007

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China-Burma-India Theater GB 2006-2007
Posted by Tankmaster7 on Friday, April 21, 2006 8:23 PM
           

Start Date:
September 1, 2006

End Date: March 1, 2007

Rules: Any piece of military equipment, (Axis or Allied) that participated in the CBI theater of World War II. Builds for this GB may not be combined with other GB's. Resin, PE, AM and OOB are all more than welcome. Have fun! Comments about Tanky's tablecloths or lack of progress pictures strictly verboten!!! Mischief [:-,] (Just in case Ric- I mean, anybody was thinking of making such comments...)

One more thing, please include manufacturer and scale of the build you will be doing when you let me know.

Useful links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Burma_India_Theater_of_World_War_II

http://cbi-theater.home.comcast.net/

http://www.nimitz-museum.org/cbiprimer.htm

Participants:

Tanky- 1/48 Accurate Miniatures P-51A Mustang

Bobbaily-

Rjkplasticmod-  1/48 Hasegawa P-40K

Jboutin-

JoeRugby- 1/144 C-47

ygmodeler4-

espins1-  1/32 Trumpeter P-40B (Hawk IIA). 

Archangel571
- 1/48 Accurate M. P-51A w/ Verlinen details.

mph34-

PanzerWulff- Japanese Brewster Buffalo

arki30- 1/48 Hasegawa P-40N

RadMax8- 1/48 Accurate Miniatures P-51A w/ Verlinden details

Living Legend- Accurate Miniatures B-25

Durr- ICM P-51A

balta1- Accurate Miniatures 1/48 P-51A
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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, April 22, 2006 5:56 PM

Tanky-put me down for the 1/48 Hasegawa P-40E.  If time allows, I might do the AM P-51A that is gathering dust in my stash.

Thanks

edit-Thanks for organizing & hosting this GB.

Bob

 

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Posted by archangel571 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:57 PM
totally forgot me and my 1/48 AM p-51A with verlinden engine/cockpit/control surface.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, April 23, 2006 2:48 PM
whoops. sorry mate. list will be updated.
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Posted by jboutin on Monday, April 24, 2006 9:55 AM
I really want to build an RAF P-47 for this one in 1:48.  I don't have one yet but I want to try the Tamiya as everyone says it is a dream. 
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Monday, April 24, 2006 3:55 PM

Tanky FRINGE INCOMING!!!!!!! well I love the brewster buffalo and i found an interesting tidbit The JAPANESE flew a squadron of them !!!Shock [:O] they were captured Dutch aircraft not too much is mentioned about their performance in Japanese hands but it is definatly interesting heres some pics

I thought it might make an interesting build Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, April 24, 2006 4:43 PM
[Tanky gasping as he struggles to extricate himself from vast amounts of frilly lace and fringe]
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, April 24, 2006 7:03 PM

Well !!  If I can't make legitimate comments about tablecloths & lack of progress pics I'm Outta Here Disapprove [V].

Just kidding, but you know rules are made to be broken don't you Tanky Big Smile [:D]

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:16 PM

Uhm...problem...the Ki43 I mentioned well I forgot that I had already started it...does this constitute a violation?  Honestly I completely spaced it out...

 

By the way I think the table cloths are very nice...in a Martha Stewart sort of way...

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:11 PM
Honestly, I'd prefer it wasn't started. So everyone is at the same point at the beginning of the GB. Smile [:)]
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Posted by mph34 on Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:36 AM
Add me to the list.  Leaning toward something from the early years of the theater.  Will let everyone know after I make up my mind.
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Saturday, May 6, 2006 9:32 AM
OK I added you.

hmm this thread seems to be dead. ill post in AC to get some interest going.
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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, May 8, 2006 12:20 PM
Hey Tanky, go ahead and put me down as a "possible"... I may go out and purchase a P-51A and give it a run for it's money. We'll see how the rest of school goesDead [xx(]
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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, May 8, 2006 12:21 PM
Wait Tanky, just viewed the dates. Scratch possible with definate, and I'll be doing Accurate Miniature's rendition of the P-51A, perhaps with an A/M engine thrown inBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 7:18 PM
Hey tank dont forget me I'll be doing a Japanese B339 buffalo( if I can find the appropriate markings)Big Smile [:D] the 1/48 tamiya kit
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 9:06 PM
sorry panzerwulf. I'll update the list when I get a chance tomorrow.
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Posted by cj95 on Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:24 AM

Interesting GB........

 

What kinds of Armor are allowed?

What units?

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, May 12, 2006 6:24 PM
With those dates, I'd probably be in on this.  I have no idea what to build yet.

Building Now:

1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

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1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Friday, May 12, 2006 7:30 PM
I'm not sure what armor units. to be honest, I don't know too much about this theater. This GB will be a good way for me to learn.
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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:56 PM

Curses Tanky!!!  I was all excited till I saw the "cannot be combined with other GB's" clause... "may your tablecloth develop the stains of 100 spilled wine glasses!!!"  haha kidding... I was all excited as I found the perfect model for this but I already commited it to the Memorial Day GB because my uncle flew in it...

I'll just come in now and again and check it out...

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:26 PM

Cj95 - I'm looking for references but Soviet T-34's are the only true armor I have come on yet (Russian intervention on the behalf of the Chinese).. the rest I have seen is all jeeps and deuce and a half's etc...  I'll see if I can find something more later...  I could almost bet M4's are going to be in tere as the Chinese were aided with American armor as well... plus the Commonwealth and US troops int he area had to have had some too.

Here's the link on the Russian support:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Campaigns_in_Chinese_War

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, May 13, 2006 7:31 PM

Tanky, put me down for a Hasegawa 1/48 P-40K.  Thanks.

Rick

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:22 PM
Tom, feel free to post pics and such of it here anyway. I'd be happy to see them anyhow.

Besides, since most of my GB's seem to run without badges anyway, you'd be just like a member. Smile [:)]
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Posted by arki30 on Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:55 PM
Put me down with a Hasegawa P-40N, 1/48th.  Maybe, just maybe I'll also do a Ki-27 Nate.

Building Now:

1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

Upcoming:

1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:27 PM
Tanky - thanks!  I'll sure stop by and post pics here now and then... also as I find more about my great uncles career in the S Pacific/ CBI I'll be sure to post it for historical reference's sake... If anyone is interested in some of the bombing units action in the CBI I've come across a few sites with some unit histories and such on it.
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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:36 AM
Hey Tanky, just wanted to let you know.... I won my P-51A on Ebay yesterday. I wasn't even thinking about this GB when I did it, I just wanted my shipping to be more reasonable for another kit I bought. But, since I got it for $8, I figure I can enter it here and spend money on aftermarket goodiesBig Smile [:D]. Also if you guys want, I can make a badge, I've got this neat animation program and a good idea for a badge. If not, that's ok
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:38 AM
A badge would be great!! Thanks for the offer. It's great that you won the kit too.
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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:50 AM
P.S. Tanky don't forget to add me to the list. I'll start work hopefully today on the badge. This build should be pretty exciting!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:47 PM
CJ,

The Brits used M3 Lee's and M3 Grant's and Valentine tanks in Burma, near the Imphal front. And the British India Army used shermans in Burma.

Check out the three pictures of Burma M3's in this message thread over at Sandman and Overlord's Small Scale AFV Forums:

M3 Lee Mk.1 - Burma
http://www.smallscaleafvforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639

Cool thing is the sections of late type Valentine tracks attached to the hulls to provide protection against shaped charges and RPGs.

There's a little blurb in George Forty's old M4 Sherman book:

    "The British XIVth Army in Burma had both Lees and Grants in small
    numbers, continuing to use them against the Japanese, long after the
    tank had officially been declared obsolete (April 1944)."


On that same page, pg 35, there's a small picture of 3 Grants crossing a stream on the way to the Imphal front.

There's also another Burma pic in the George Forty book, on page 79, here's the caption:

    "A Sherman belonging to A Squadron of the Deccan Horse in Burma
    (Author's collection)."


    ^^^neat thing about that one is the Indian crew are all wearing red turbans. And there's a badly faked gunbarrel on the lower right corner of the hull front, to make it look more like a Lee/Grant tank.

On page 43 of the Osprey - New Vanguard book Sherman Medium Tank 1942-45 by Steve Zaloga, there's a photo of a column of Chinese manned M4A4's, here's the caption:

    "A column of M4A4 Shermans of the Chinese 1st Provisional Tank Group in
    action in Burma in 1944. This unit was trained and raised with American
    support, and later fought in the Civil War against the Communists. Tiger
   faces were popular decoration on the turrets of there vehicles."


On page 53 of Motorbook International's M4 Sherman book by Michael Green, there's a picture of a row of M4A4 shermans in Burma, here's the caption:

    "Because the M4A4 Sherman was longer than other sherman tank models,
    Chrysler was forced to install longer tracks and lengthen the spaces between
    the vehicle's bogie wheels. This particular M4A4 Sherman is in Burma in
    February, 1945. Operated by an American crew, the vehicle is being used
    to support Chinese troops fighting the Japanese Army."


In Squadron/Signal's M3 Lee/Grant in Action book by Jim Mesko there's this text about M3's in Burma, from page 41:

    "In Burma, the British and Indian troops of the Fourteenth Army were
    finally able to go on the offensive in early 1944 after nearly two years
   of see-saw battles with the Japanese. A number of armored units were
   equipped with mostly Lees, with the commander's cupola removed and
   these proved instrumental in helping the troops route out the entrenched
  Japanese defenders. One special modification made to the M3's was the
  addition of a wire screen over the engine deck to defeat magnetic mines.
  In the dense jungle conditions, close infantry support was a necessity to
  forestall suicide attacks against the buttoned up tanks, and the various
  infantry units fought ferociously to protect the tanks from the equally
  fanatical Japanese. Tank commanders were especially vulnerable to
  infantry and sniper fire. During the battle for Mungshigum Ridge, every
  officer of B Squadron, 3rd Carabiniers was lost to enemy fire while moving
  up the ridge. During the campaign, the M3 also set a record for the highest
  operation of armored vehicles when Lees of C Squadron, 3rd Carabiniers
  captured the 9,000 foot high summit of Kennedy Peak during the capture
  of Tiddim. This record lasted until Indian tankers fought at elevations of
  12,000 feet years later against Pakistan."
   "When the Burma campaign ended with the capture of Rangoon and
  subsequent mopping up operations in the Spring of 1945, the M3's had
  proved to be instrumental in helping the Commonwealth troops root out
  the dug in enemy troops. They accounted for thousands of Japanese troops
  and knocked out hundreds of bunkers and gun emplacements. Without
  their support, the advance would have been far more costly, if even possible,
  given the conditions, enemy strength and disposition."

   In the M3 Lee/Grant in Action book, on page 49, the top right pic is a M3 Lee in Burma.

There's also a colored markings plate in the center of the book, of:

     "COSSACK was a Lee of C Squadron 150th Regiment, Royal Armoured Corps
     at Mandalay, Burma, during March of 1945."



 The Wikipedia links to look at:

 - Battle of Imphal:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Imphal
 - Battle of Kohima:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kohima
 - Burma Campaign:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_Campaign#The_Allies

 Also, it seems the Australians used Matilda II's. And even made a amphibious landing with them in Malaysia of somewhere there abouts.

Just found this page with pics about Australian armor:

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/aus/Australian.htm
^^^says the Aussies used the Matilda II in New Guinea and Borneo, and Lee/Grants in Burma. Some of their Matilda II's were flamethrower tanks! FROG Mk. I's it calls them. Cool pics of them. It says the 8th Australian Infantry Division used Marmon-Herrington MK III Armored Cars during the Malayan campaign. cool.
 
This page, with pictures, about the Valentine says the 3rd New Zealand Division used some Valentines at Arakan in Burma.

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/unitedkingdom/infantry/valentine.html

Really cool, I just found this link with an excerpt about Duplex-Drive Shermans almost getting used in an amphibious invasion by brits:

Secret Training on DD (Swimming) Tanks. Preparations to retake Singapore
extracted from TELL THEM OF US: The Forgotten Army – Burma by John Leyin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/52/a1311652.shtml

^^^Could still model a DD Sherman in Madras after the cancelation of Operation Zipper. Would be a an unusual subject. Is pretty funny when he describes his sherman DD sliding sidewise down the camber of a harbor road, and almost crashing into a bullock cart.
 
   


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:19 PM
Here's a link to a recount of some men that were part of the 255th Independent Tank Brigade in Burma.
http://www.burmastar.org.uk/hannah.htm

Covers their training on Lees and Grants and then their usage of Shermans in theater.
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