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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, February 4, 2007 2:46 PM

Finally, Panzer pics!

 

Paint is a combination of Tamiya & Gunze acrylics.

Weathering is a combination of airbrushing, dry brushing and weathering powders.

I really enjoyed this little build, even if it did take forever.

Karl 

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Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, February 1, 2007 3:15 PM

 jboutin wrote:
so what you're saying Karl is much artistic freedom is okay? hmmmmmEvil [}:)]

Got it in one!

Karl 

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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:40 PM
so what you're saying Karl is much artistic freedom is okay? hmmmmmEvil [}:)]
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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:27 PM

Jay, Scott is pretty much spot on with RLM02.

However some Luftwaffe A/C may have had an NMF interior, but don't quote me on that!

Either way, I wouldn't worry, as details on SCW A/C are pretty scarce at best, and just damn fuzzy at worst.Evil [}:)]

Karl 

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:52 AM

 jboutin wrote:
Dave, Karl or anyone else who might have the answer, what did the Germans use as interior colour in the cockpit and landing gear wheel wells.  I Started painting it last night and tried OD green and it looks funny, I looked at your pics Dave and can't decide what colour it looks like on your Heinkel.  Thanks.

Up until the middle of WWII German cockpit interiors were RLM02 Grau

You might find these color reference charts helpful from IPMS Stockholm, I'm always refering to these and they even tell you what to mix for the different brands to duplicate the colors.  I hope that helps.  Smile [:)]

http://ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_germany.htm

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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:58 AM
Dave, Karl or anyone else who might have the answer, what did the Germans use as interior colour in the cockpit and landing gear wheel wells.  I Started painting it last night and tried OD green and it looks funny, I looked at your pics Dave and can't decide what colour it looks like on your Heinkel.  Thanks.
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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, January 29, 2007 1:40 PM

Jay, try sticky tape.

Just lay it over the decal, press down firmly, and pull back.

Et voila!

Decal stuck to tape.

I always use masking tape, but you might want to try something a little stronger if you've used setting solutions.

You know I said I'd post pics of the Panzer 1, well obviously I haven't.

Will definitely try to as soon as possible.

Karl 

 

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Posted by razordws on Monday, January 29, 2007 11:32 AM
Jay, as long as they have not been top coated with future or anything else you should be able to soak them in Micro Sol or any other decal solvent and once they are softened up you can gently rub them off.

Dave

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Posted by jboutin on Monday, January 29, 2007 11:12 AM

Thanks Dave, I'm thinking of getting on this one pretty quick.  I need something to be easy for once... I have run into a wall with my Spitfire, or more to the point, have developed a serious decaling issue. Angry [:(!] I need to remove some decals that I've put on and I don't know if I'll be able to save the paint!  Anyone have any suggestions?  I put future on before the decals.  Sigh [sigh]

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Posted by razordws on Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:15 AM

Jay, Karl told me that the civil war aircraft were either painted silver or bare metal with an RLM 02 laquer paint.  Correct me if I'm wrong Karl.  So I picked the most silvery grey I could find in my paint tray which happened to be Humbrol 127 and then lightly oversprayed it with the RLM 02.  I'm pretty happy with the results even though they may not be the most accurate.

Dave

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Posted by jboutin on Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:32 PM
Thanks Karl, now Dave, what colour did you use as the main colour for the heinkel?
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Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:44 AM
Jay, front page updated.

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Posted by jboutin on Friday, January 26, 2007 4:30 PM

Thanks Karl and Dave, I will post pics!  sometime...Tongue [:P]

Karl, gotta update me on the front page!

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, January 26, 2007 2:15 PM

Jay, good to see you back on this GB.

Heller's 109B is a pretty good kit from what I've heard. 

Nice to see plenty of braille scale builds in this GB too.

The Panzer 1 is pretty much complete, hoping to post pics later this weekend.

As for my next build for this GB I'm thinking about Revell's 1/72 Renault FT as used by Republican forces. 

As for 262s there must be something in the air, as I'm about to start on Tamiya's 1/48 offering.

Karl 

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Posted by razordws on Friday, January 26, 2007 2:09 PM
I will most probalby do the night fighter version Jay but like you I have a heap of builds in front of it and not a lot of free time to spend at the bench these days.  Good luck with the Bf 109 and post some pics! Propeller [8-]

Dave

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Posted by jboutin on Friday, January 26, 2007 11:26 AM

Dave, okay thanks for the heads up about the decals.  Painting them should be pretty easy then.  I'll even try the decals in the sun trick.

I pulled out the parts for each of the Heller kits and I was impressed with the level of detail.  For older kits they are very nice!, espcecially the Ar196.  I am one not to get hung up about raised panel lines so for me being offered the kits, I took them without a second thought!  I was especially impressed with the canopies, all three have very clear and crisp moldings, no flash and not too thick!Shock [:O]

I would be very interested to see your Me262 built up compared to when I get mine done (when ever that would be...).  Are you thinking of doing the nightfighter version, I am.

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Posted by razordws on Friday, January 26, 2007 10:33 AM

Jay I took a look for some Bf 109 civil war AM decals for use on my He 112 but I couldn't find any.  That's why I ended up making my own.  I painted a white circle roughly to size and then printed the black circle with the X or swaztika onto the decal paper.  Fortunately the aircraft I choose didn't have any other squadron markings.

BTW nice score on the kits, I got quite a few heller kits from that friend of mine last summer including that Me 262 B 2 seater.  I actually liked the He 112 kit and I'm looking forward to building more of those kits.  As with all manufacturers some kits are better than others though and I think the He 112 was one of the better ones.  

Dave

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Posted by jboutin on Friday, January 26, 2007 9:30 AM

Ooo ooo! an Eastern front GB and I actually have a kit for it! Smile [:)]

Also Karl, I finally have a kit to build for this GB, if I can get to it soon.  I just scored 4 free models, 3 from Heller; 1:72 Bf-109b, Arado Ar196 and Me262 (two seater) and for the eastern front GB I could use my Revell 1:72 Panzer III a tank from Kursk.  mmm I am drooling at getting back into the GBs. Tongue [:P] Time is the big factor. 

I hope I can still participate in this GB with my Bf-109b.  The kit decals for the spanish civil war are very old and I doubt they'd work so I may just have to find some civil war decals, anyone know who makes some as.  If I can start the Bf-109b before March, I think I might be able to finish it. Wink [;)]

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:38 PM
Thanks Rick!  Are you still thinking of doing an Eastern Front GB sometime this year?  I seem to remember you mentioning something about it last fall... at least I think it was you???

Dave

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:23 PM

Very nice build Dave.  Looks real good.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:41 PM

Thanks Dave.

I think it's Tamiya Panzer Green, but don't quote me on that.

Looks about right to me, but would I know.

Just applied the wash, so it's sitting in the corner drying off.

Might even get it done this weekend! 

Karl 

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:39 PM

Thanks Solid and Karl!  Karl that Panzer I is coming along very nicely.  What colour(s) are you using?  It's already looking nicely weathered, can't wait to see it finished.  ...and yes it is tiny!Shock [:O]

Dave

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:51 PM

Dave, great job on the Heinkel.

The paint looks great.

Nice to see the He 100 modelled. 

Finally made some more progress on the puny panzer!

Just need to put some Future over the decals, then is on to a sludge wash and dry brushing, followed by matt coat and more weathering.

As you can see, it really is tiny! 

Karl 

 

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Posted by solid on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:10 PM
nice job Razordws...............nice job..........
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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:40 AM

Well... I'm done!  Heller 1/72 kit of the He 112. 

 

Now where did I put that Br 20 I was working on for the BoB GB? Whistling [:-^]

Dave

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 1:59 PM

More like, when I get the Fw190F-8 off my bench!

Which should be this weekend.

Having said that, there is an Me 262 in the build queue behind it..... 

Karl 

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Posted by razordws on Monday, January 8, 2007 6:13 PM

Just as soon as the batteries are charged and he finds the usb cord!  Clown [:o)]  Right Karl?

 

Still playing with the fidely bits on the He 112, motivation is hard to come by at the moment but it should be done soon.

Dave

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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, January 8, 2007 3:37 PM

I will actually get around to posting some pics at some point.

Honest.....Wink [;)]

Karl 

 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, January 7, 2007 3:47 PM

Looking forward to seeing your Panzer Karl.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, January 7, 2007 1:22 PM

Dave, great job on the Heinkel.

The paint looks great.

Not sure on the prop colour, either black or silver at a guess.

Progress Update

Decals are on the Panzer 1, just need to touch in a few areas where the decals haven't covered as they should.

Karl 

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