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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, November 6, 2006 11:56 AM

Good point Scott, even modern B&W film can be misleading, especially greens & reds.  Pro & advanced amatuer photographers use compensating filters when shooting B&W, but the pics of that era did not.  For many years, researchers thought the German AC used in the Spanish Civil War were painted a very light grey.  Recent research using advanced computer color analysis led to the conclusion that they were a light green, possibly RLM02 or RLM62 .  On the very early AC, some researchers argue the AC were actually natural metal with a very thin protective coat of an RLM02 shade of lacquer.  In the 109A kit, Classic gives you markings for an NMF bird.  I haven't found any reference to confirm that's correct, but I may do mine that way just for the heck of it.  A NMF Emil would look kinda cool with the other, more conventional, Emil's in my collection.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by espins1 on Monday, November 6, 2006 12:11 PM

Rick,

I'm envious of you and your Classic Airframes Bf109A as that's what I wanted to do for this build with the NMF finish as I really like the way it looks, accurate or not. Wink [;)]

I'm looking forward to seeing your build.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, November 6, 2006 2:18 PM

Scott, front page updated with the new builds.

I've read similar warnings about the intepretation of colours from older photos, colour or B&W. Which is why it always surprises me when people get into arguments about the exact shade of Luftwaffe pink! 

Rick, NMF Emil, sounds interesting!

Karl 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, November 6, 2006 2:19 PM

Scott, I got the CA kit as soon as it was released.  When they say Limited Run they meen it, although I wouldn't be surprized to see it re-issued some day as it was an extremely popular kit.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by espins1 on Monday, November 6, 2006 3:08 PM
 rjkplasticmod wrote:

Scott, I got the CA kit as soon as it was released.  When they say Limited Run they meen it, although I wouldn't be surprized to see it re-issued some day as it was an extremely popular kit.

Regards,  Rick

Ya I know better now.  I've been keeping my eye on e-bay just in case one pops up.  The 109D I got is very nice though.  I'm dying to build it so I think I'll work on it as I do my P-38 for the Southern Pacific GB.

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Posted by U-96 on Wednesday, November 8, 2006 2:41 PM

KJ200, I must really thank you for those Cutting Edge decals: they are superb, not only in quality, but application - they react and handle as well as one could ever hope. The instructions specifically mention Microscale solvents, so I'm onto a winner with my current inventory of liquid magic.

As regards thinner for the paint, water. Around 10 drops of Xtracrylix to 1 drop of water. Running water through the airbrush between colours, alcohol at the end of a session, and cellulose thinner after a model is complete.  I used around a 5:1 ratio for the addition of white: partly because they were a little dark, and partly for scale colour effect, which I've never been entirely convinced of, but it looks good Big Smile [:D]

Referring to my earlier picture, can anyone spot the (not-so-)deliberate mistake, this being Gotthardt Handrick's kite? 

On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:45 PM

U. you're welcome. Gald to see them being used, rather than moldering away in my decal bank.

Well I went and bought a kit.

I bought a.............

 

 

...........tank!

Italeri's diminutive Panzer 1 in 1/72.

This thing is tiny, all of 6 cm long, with link and length tracks!

I've assembled the lower hull and running gear, and am in the process of attaching the tracks.

I'm going to try and assemble the whole thing before starting the paintwork, something the AFV boys seem to do a lot.

Karl 

 

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Posted by U-96 on Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:37 PM

Interesting choice Karl, I used to think those assemble-before-paint tanks were just for the benefit of mag articles and books on modelling. 

I had a single colour scheme on the 1/72 Merkava in my sig, which made things easier, but that was the first AFV I tried to assemble fully before painting. It does work with an airbrush, but for brush-painters, I think it's impossible, still a case of sub-assemblies and superglue.

 As for the Bf-109D... finished! Big Smile [:D]

I need to improve my weathering techniques, but archive photos of SCW birds seem very clean - perhaps because (at least for the Luftwaffe) it was a prestigious thing to be involved with and the groundcrew worked very hard making the planes look good!

On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Posted by espins1 on Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:42 PM
Nice work U-96!  Looks great!  Cool [8D] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:33 PM

Very nice build U96.  Well done.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by razordws on Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:07 PM

U-96, Beautiful work on the BF 109.  Looks nice in the Spanish Civil War Colours.

 Karl... I've built one of those in brail scale before.  They are veerrrrrrry tiny!  Hope you have your magnifyer handy.

Dave

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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:38 PM

U, great job on the Dora.

Dave, I can barely see from putting the link and length tracks on, especially the individual links that go around the idler etc.

In future I think I'll stick to 1/48 or 1/35 AFVs, at least I can see them.

Still the hull is together, and all the tracks are on, so I'll start, and most probably finish the paintwork over the weekend!

Karl 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 19, 2006 1:34 PM

 espins1 wrote:
Interesting.  I was doing some research, trying to find a photo of Werner Molders Bf109D-1 and I stumbled across the box art an Academy Bf109D with the exact same markings I have but it's with the splinter camouflage.  Does anyone have any reference photos of Molders Bf109D-1 number 6 79, with the Mickey Mouse emblem and "Luchs" painted in front of the cockpit on the cowling?

 Okay, here are some pictures on 6-79. I don't know if you've seen them or not, but here they are. There are three pictures and one profile on this page: http://usuarios.lycos.es/mrodval/GC19406.HTM

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Posted by U-96 on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:37 AM
for 109s of all marks and theatres, http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/ is an excellent resource for photos and some colour profiles
On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:43 AM
 quailane wrote:

 espins1 wrote:
Interesting.  I was doing some research, trying to find a photo of Werner Molders Bf109D-1 and I stumbled across the box art an Academy Bf109D with the exact same markings I have but it's with the splinter camouflage.  Does anyone have any reference photos of Molders Bf109D-1 number 6 79, with the Mickey Mouse emblem and "Luchs" painted in front of the cockpit on the cowling?

 Okay, here are some pictures on 6-79. I don't know if you've seen them or not, but here they are. There are three pictures and one profile on this page: http://usuarios.lycos.es/mrodval/GC19406.HTM

Thanks for the link.  Every photo I've been able to find shows Molders 6*79 in a solid color.  Now the fun part.... trying to mix the paint to get just the right color.  Shock [:O] Wink [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:47 AM

 Hello to everybody in this GB. I found this great forum just for few days so, I'm still a "new kid in (your) town". If is still room and agreement, I'd like to join you with a vehicle in 72nd scale.

The Bilbao armd car and I'll make it in scratchbuild. Thanks.

Alex 

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:37 PM

Trucker, welcome to both the forum and this GB.

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

I'll add you to the front page.

Karl 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 6:55 PM

Welcome aboard Trucker Sign - Welcome [#welcome].

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by solid on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:27 PM

Ciao everyone:

 I am in the build with a Dewoitine 510, but I just finished, this fellow for a contest in Italy and
thought you all might like to see it:

 Savoia Marchetti SM-81 "Pipistrello" (Bat)
 Built in 1930
 Flew in Ethiopia and the Spanish Civil War.
 It was Italy´s contribution with bombers.

Model: Solid Wood (Mahogany), Plaster of Paris engines, paper cabin framework, transparent palstic glass, and white glue windows. Decals "Jet printer decal paper".
Approx: 1:140 scale....10" wingspan.

 

 

-----------------Finished--------------

 

 

 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:54 PM

Nice one Solid.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, November 23, 2006 2:50 PM

Solid, great looking build.

Thanks for sharing. 

Karl 

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, November 24, 2006 11:56 AM

Nice work Solid!  You always manage to make some very impressive aircraft, and out of wood no less.  Fantastic!  Cool [8D] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 24, 2006 1:44 PM

 Thanks for your kind welcome. 2 pics of the started 72nd "Bilbao". Hope will not look strange among all these excellent planes.

 

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 24, 2006 1:45 PM

 


 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, November 24, 2006 6:49 PM

Nice start Trucker.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:37 PM

Trucker, nice work on the armoured car.

It really is tiny isn't it.

Unless of course that is a 1litre pot of Tamyia acrylic in the background!Wink [;)]

I've finally finished construction of the Panzer 1, and like Trucker's armoured car, it really is incredibly small.

(Note self, never again attempt any 1/72 AFV any smaller than Maus!)

I need to sort out a few minor fit issues with some Mr Surfacer, but beyond that, and it's absolute tininess, it's been a good build.

I'll post some pics when I get a chance.

Karl 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:14 PM

Well, thanks KJ200. Would was nice to be a 1 litre pot ( enough paint for the next 10 years ). Unfortunately, is 72nd and I have to glue all the rivets under the magnifier. I'm waiting, like all others I guess, some pics. I saw many interesting works here and I like to increase my collection of pics.

Alex 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:14 AM

One more step. The armd body is almost complete, in a crude shape.



Alex
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:43 PM

Good progress Trucker.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:35 PM
 Trucker wrote:

One more step. The armd body is almost complete, in a crude shape.

Alex

Well... it is a rather crude looking machine (the real thing that is) to start with. Wink [;)]  Looking great so far Trucker!! Thumbs Up [tup] 

Dave

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