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  • Member since
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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:54 PM

Leaning towards this paint scheme, but have been unable to obtain any other info other than a black and white and this color photo's. Only thing is no squadron marking, photo's are from Bell and it is a factory applied paint.

Got this photo in an e-mail today. Question, is a hunting permit needed and what kind of kill marking would be put on the F-16?

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:28 PM
Thanks for the comments Mist,Kenny and John. I managed to get more details from my old photos so I will be going at it hard this weekend. I can almost see the finish line now. John, like the Cobra a lot and hope to see it in Marine Corps colours, at least thats my vote for the paint job for what it's worth. Hint,Hint,Hint. Steve.
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  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:25 AM

Mist,

That F-14 of yours is looking really good, I can't wait to see it with the decals.

Steve,

The A-4 is Looking great too. I like the way the photo's turned out using the hood as background.

Are you going to dirty it up or leave it nice and clean?

John,

I'm keen to see your Cobra with it's war paint. She looks pretty good in your photo's.

I don't know much about helo's but the Cobra is right up there on my list.

 

I've started on the other wing of the F-111. The kit wing started with 2 pieces and now has over 50! It's going together about twice as fast as the other wing so it should only take about one week to get done.

To break up the monotony, I've started painting the cockpit between coats of putty.

 

I recieved my wheels, decals and Mk-82 Snakeyes in the mail this week so now I have no excuses. These are resin and the last time I tried to use this I had the CA glue drying before I had the stuff in position. What glue do you guys use for resin?

Has anyone here used Photo Etch before?

What is the best glue to use on this stuff?

What can I use to glue a cockpit frame to the canopy without it going all white?

Thanks guys.

Mark

 

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:31 AM
Mark, thanks for the comments,it really did come out good on the hood, I did not even think amout it until I seen the photos on the computer. I do plan on dirtying it up a bit but it has no panell lines and I think it needs a little something to jazzzz it up a bit. I will probably use pastel chalks to give it some depth. As far as resin goes I use the super glue, I have only about a dozen expierences with it but works great all the time. Same goes for PE, just use it sparingly. It does not take much and you dont want to mess with cleaning up oozzee. On clear parts I use the Testors clear cement made for glass parts and can also be used to make windows, mainly for small fuselage windows as it will spread or stretch from one side to another. It goes on foggy but cures cristal clear. It does have problems with bad fitting canopies as it takes a while to cure. I have also used superglue for canopies but you have to be very careful with it as it can fog the part. If you prep the canopy by dipping it in Future floor wax first it protects the canopy from fogging, but use the glue sparingly, only a few drops here and there will hold it and cut down the possibility of fogging. Hope that helps ya Mark. By the way, awsome work on the wings and flaps etc. You must have a lot of patients. It will be worth it when the bird is finished. Steve.
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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:21 AM

With resin and PE you are stuck using CA or epoxy, but epoxy has a 5 minute set time so you have to hold together for that time period. Best bet is CA, take some scrap resin and play with it first to get a better hang for using it.

Got a new Cobra book coming, will hold off final decision on paint scheme until I review it.

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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:34 PM
hey john was looking around the net and surprised there arent many AH photos around i guess a book on them is much better.
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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:20 PM

Books and my follow modeller's have been my best source of info on many a/c

EDIT: My new part finally arrived and the glue is drying as I type this and it had a molding flaw also, but at least I was able to repair it

  • Member since
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  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:45 AM

Thanks Steve and John for your advice on the CA Glue.

I've bought some different types and have started playing with them. I can't say I really like the speed they cure in but it's something I'll have to learn how to deal with.

I've had a really productive weekend. I've got the majority of the second wing built, started painting my cockpit and got the PE applied to the cockpit sidewalls.

I've cut my canopy out to show it with the hatches open and am presently avoiding the photo etch frame untill I have the fuselage halfs together as then I'll be able to adjust the PE to spread the canopy if needed.

I've also got the control surfaces together and for  little bit of extra detail I've added the static discharge's to the trailing edges.

I'll post some photo's tomorrow when the camera is charged.

Mark

  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Monday, December 18, 2006 4:41 AM

Here's some of my WIP photo's from the weekend.

The cockpit it the Verlinden F-111 set and has heaps of Photo Etch. The resin is nice and the detail is great.

(The canopy has tape on it to protect it while working on it)

Static discharge

I'm really enjoying this build, all the research has paid off and I get a real kick from adding the little details. That being said, I look forward to a straight out of the box build to help wind down when this is done.

Mark

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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Monday, December 18, 2006 6:19 PM
she is looking really great mark nice progress i am loving this build too but the holidays are slowing me down alot sorta cant waittill they are over so i can get back to full blown building.
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  • Member since
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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Monday, December 18, 2006 7:50 PM

Looks good, Mark, keep it coming.

If you have a LHS handy, check to see if they have any kicker for CA glues. Helps dry them quicker, play around with it on scrap first though to get the hang of it.

  • Member since
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  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:42 AM

Thanks John and Kenny.

Kenny, I know what you mean, you'd think the holidays are the time I'd get the most done yet it seems I've got less spare time on holidays than I do when I'm working.

John,

Thanks for the tip on the CA. The problem I'm having is that the stuff is going off before I can even get the part near the spot it's supposed to go.

It's the middle of summer here in Queensland with temps in the low 40 deg C and humidity is through the roof so I'm going to try keeping the glue in the fridge and see if that will slow it down a little.

Have you got your cobra book yet?

I'm really keen to see what scheme you're going to do it in.

Mark

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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:49 AM

Keeping your CA in the refrig is a good idea, it will last longer also.

Just got my book yesterday, been going through it, don't know how much help it will be for painting my bird, but it does have a good history of the Cobra and is up-to-date

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Mist086 on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:28 PM
Ok.  I was all set to put the decals on tonight.  But the hobby store said that they were folded in half ans tore all to shreds from the delivery people.  I won't say any names.  {Cough} Fedex {cough}.  So they are ordering another set that won't be here until Friday.  Censored [censored] Banged Head [banghead] Censored [censored] Banged Head [banghead] Censored [censored] Banged Head [banghead] Censored [censored] Banged Head [banghead]
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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:45 PM
sorry to hear that mist but fedex doesnt read anything i just had pictures of my son shipped and the package clearly states do not bend photos and of course it was totally bent
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Posted by whiskey on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:22 PM
Nice snake ya got there John. What kit is that anyway, the 1/48 Italeri? As far as that paint scheme goes that you had in the picture, I believe its the test scheme for some Iranian birds. Cant recall exactly, unfortunatly Im away from my books so I couldnt give ya an exact answer.
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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:20 AM

Thanks, it is the 1/48h Italeri kit. Paint job has been hard to find out any info on, you may be right, any info you could provide would be appreciated.

Sorry about your decals, maybe best to wait until after the first of the year, shipping amounts should be lower

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:39 PM

Sorry to hear about the decals and hope you get new ones soon. I will be in Ireland till the first of the year so Merry Christmas to all you guys and keep on building. Cant do any work until 1st week of Jan so see ya then. Happy New Year.

Steve

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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:31 PM

have a safe flight and have a very merry xmas and a happy new year.

i hope you all have a great christmas and i hope santa is good to all of us builders :)

xmas dinner is here so i will be checking ini on the weekend :)

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  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:19 PM

Merry Christmas everyone.

I hope you all have a happy and safe festive season.

Hope you can all find time to get a little building done as well.

Mark

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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Friday, December 22, 2006 9:39 AM
Merry christmas to everyone.    
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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Mist086 on Friday, December 22, 2006 10:00 AM
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good build
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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:13 PM

hope you all had a great holiday season so far now that xmas is over i think i can finnaly get back to my build :)

kenny

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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:15 PM

I know another naked bird, but at least I got my replacement part and have gotten my build ready for painting. But I haven't had much time due to the Holiday's

  • Member since
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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Mist086 on Friday, December 29, 2006 7:49 AM

an update on mine.  My LHS where i have ordered my decals, has run into problems so i don't know when i'm gonna get them.  I'd order online but with no credit cards and the like it's hard to.  I'm giving it another week and they're not in by then, i'll have to use the decals that came with the bird

 

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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Friday, December 29, 2006 4:08 PM

looking great john i have to update mine too

mist sorry to hear that i hope they come through with the decals fo you

 

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  • From: Rockford, Iowa
Posted by usaf ssgt on Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:52 PM

I'm new to the whole GB thing, and am wondering, can I join in on a GB like this, that has already kicked off...past its start date?

 

Leon

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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:01 PM

sure leon you can join in on this build just tell us whatyou are building and i will add you tothe group

kenny

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  • Member since
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  • From: Rockford, Iowa
Posted by usaf ssgt on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:09 PM
 kenny_conklin wrote:

sure leon you can join in on this build just tell us whatyou are building and i will add you tothe group

kenny

Thanks for letting me join, Kenny!

 Put me done for a 1/48 RF-4C Phantom II, like the one in my sig!

 

Leon

  • Member since
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  • From: Staten Island, New York
Posted by kenny_conklin on Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:11 PM
have you down leon welcome to the build
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