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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, May 18, 2007 7:17 PM
Very nice work on the Audi, SeaBee.  Very impressive

Bob

 

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Posted by F1champ on Friday, May 18, 2007 8:27 PM
The Audi looks great! as did your R27, you're doing good work with the MM kits. Have they come out with an R10 mm kit yet?
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, May 18, 2007 11:23 PM

Thanks guys! Really appreciate the positive comments. Fact is, without the input from you guys and the guys over at F1M, I'd never have (a) even attempted it or (b) manage to make it look like it was supposed to. Still room for improvement, but that the bad thing about this hobby, there's allways some things you know about...

As for "next" - I have a S27 McLaren MP4/2 lined up. I have allways liked that car (in which Lauda won his 3rd title in 84 by half a point). But I see you're also talking over at the F1 GB, so I'll answer some Q's there as well.

The R10 is being released shortly, I think. I think there's just a straight LMM release, but there's a mouthwatering prospect of a SMS & LMM colaborated release as well. So not sure about LMM-only release or if only this joint effort will be released (which will be released). But for this one, I'm personally going to take a bit of a back seat and get the Revell version. 

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:31 PM

A little progress on the Willys'.  Since this is a '60's era car, I decided to use red oxide primer.  Since the top coat is black, shouldn't be a problem...I hope.  The kit is nice-a fair amount of detail.  I'm hoping to be able to take the time to wire & plumb the engine compartment.  However, it does lack seat harnesses...go figure.  Hope to get the car painted by weeks end....maybe....

 

Bob

 

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Posted by mkhoot on Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:28 AM
SeaBee  Very nice work on the Audi one of my favorites.
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:28 PM

Ok,

 

    This is what Ive been doing this weekend. Been adding CF to some of the tub of this racer. I tell you the middle where the shifter goes took me forever!!!!!  But the ST27 CF went down wonderful for me. Not the best pics but Im still learning this camera.

 

Dustin

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:31 PM
 ok dont look at the 23 in the third picture I know I know I dinged it but i dont think ill be able to tell when the car is complete. Well I hope

Dustin

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, May 21, 2007 4:28 AM

Looks good - CFing is hard work! Which S27 CF is that? Awesome pattern, been looking for that kind of pattern to use as an alternate to some of the SMS stuff. And it looks a lot like what I'll need for something else I want to do, after seeing some pics yesterday in the local build-up to the motogp race.

Don't worry about the 23...

The MP4/2 has been shown some acetone on the resin. Looks like a relative simple build (now I've gone and cursed it!) and it's been cast very cleanly. Quick-fitting looked good and I ventured into the front wing. Very little to do on the outside before painting will commence. The buildup of the rear wing looks like the main challenge in this one...

FW24 seat is inserted and starting to build up the bodywork in preparation for painting that as well. Will then commence with the other detailed building to allow the paintwork to settle. 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, May 21, 2007 10:16 AM

 See,

 

     The # is ST27-FP0002/ CARBON DECAL A.

  I get these from Strada Motor Sports over here. I have used the SMS C/F but I just cant seem to get them to work as well as the ST27 decals. Im thinking about getting some of the MFH C/F decals  but will ask around to see how theres work  

  Hope that number works for you ?

Dustin

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, May 21, 2007 3:03 PM

Thanks Dustin, that's fine. See HLJ is out on them...

Personally allways liked the SMS decals, they worked very well for me! (Goes to show!) May have to try their "high-definition" one for variation as well. But never could get the Museum Collection CF decals to work for me, esp unimpressed since it ruined my 1:12 F190 (641/2 Ferrari) by peeling off a year or so down the line. Much as I like some of their other stuff.

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Posted by F1champ on Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:20 AM

The Studio 27 CF looks great and you laid it on there very well. I have some hi-def SMS CF coming in the mail, so I'll post pictures of that for comparison when I get it on the doors. As for the 23, I agree, I didnt' even notice until I read the comment about it so I don't think it will be visible when the model is completed.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:59 PM
Thanks F1............  I just seem to be able to work the ST's more then the SMS.  Must be the way I lay them down.

Dustin

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Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:37 AM
Talk about all dressed up and nowhere to go... Got the FW24 ready for the primer, got the MP4/2 ready for primer. Both being whte based cars, grab the white primer... Ah, yes of course, I used that for the LCR Honda just the other day, grab the spare... just to see no spare! Banged Head [banghead] I allways have a spare wite primer! At least got out enough to give the nosecone and the cockpit area a quick blast. But the rest will have to wait till next weekend. Stuuuupid! Can work on the rest of the cars during this week.
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Posted by F1champ on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:14 PM

Here's an update on the GT1

Put a thin coat of primer on the body just to see how it was coming along and give me a good idea on what needs more work. Still need to do the fender vents, and figuer out what I'm going to do with the rear end exhaust wise. Also here's a few of the interior pieces, the seats with red velour flocking and CF on the back, dash with the ac vents removed and the top dash CF'd. The door panels were covered in SMS hi-def CF, which didn't lay on as nice as I would have liked, guess I just need more practice.  Hopefully I can keep this build moving along and get it finished so I can get a start on the F1 car for the next GB.

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, June 1, 2007 4:13 PM

 Hello all,

 

   How are we all doing???  Seems to me summer is slowing me down here where I am. Anyone got any new pictures??

Dustin

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, June 1, 2007 4:15 PM

     F1 looks like your moving right along...  Looks good.   By the way do you have any pics of the F2001 engine.....side view?? 

  

Dustin

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, June 1, 2007 4:25 PM

 

  Here is where Im at been working on other things slowing this down a little..

Dustin

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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, June 2, 2007 1:32 PM

F1Champ and Dustin, both your builds are coming along great!

Dustin, is that a 2-tone paintjob with decalling the rest of the way? I see part where I'd imagine the red should be painted and silver decalled and the on the sides I'd have imagined they'd let you paint the silver and decal the red. Or how is that done? And if so, perfect colour matches!

Over here I can see just one thing... WHITE! White primer and white paint everywhere. Different phases, but some has first layer of paint, rest only primered. 3 models, all with white as major colour... MP4/2 (only primered), FW24 (first white layer) and (off-topic) LCR Honda RC211V, also first paint layer. 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Saturday, June 2, 2007 2:34 PM

 

  See,

  It is a two tone paint job and the decals are both red and silver. And the picture doesnt show that the red is off from the decal a bit and i think its because i used a gray primer. Up close the red paint is a bit orange to my eye but what can you do???  

   Im going to slow down on that build for now because I was asked by  friend to build him a Nickys '06 Honda Moto GP bike. I know that kit isnt his bike but my friend doesnt care. Bikes are not my thing so Im headed down a path Ive never traveled. ......Wish me LUCK!!!!

Dustin

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Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, June 3, 2007 4:05 AM
Bring it on!! TBH, Tamiya is doing such a great job on their bikes since about the start of the original RC211V releases that I don't think you can go wrong! Best of luck, anyways. I see you're talking to the right people in the other GB as well! I'm just starting the LCR one, so it's basically the same thing, so feel free to shout... And yes, you're spot-on with this not being Nicky's bike of last year, but even so I don't think a lot of people seeing the model will even notice!
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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, June 3, 2007 6:52 AM

 I do find it a little crummy that its not Nicky's bike but oh well.  Im going to warm up on the '03 Honda Pons bike. I see theres a trans kit to turn it into Nickys bike.

  I would like to get that paint set Zero makes for the '06 Repsol Honda before I get to far with it.

Dustin

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Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, June 3, 2007 11:36 AM

Dustin, we're wandering way off topic, but... hey, it's related! Wink [;)] I used the Zero paint "bundle" for my recent 03 Repsol RC211V build - it's in the MotoGP GB. In one word: you-won't-be-sorry! It is awesome paints and... yes, the blue esp is an incredible process. I believe it's exactly the same (or close as makes no difference) paint. Follow the instructions and wait for your jaw to drop when the blue pops out! Cool [8D]

My whites as well, if I may continue on the zero paints... I painted the Williams and Handa TS26 and the McLaren I did in Zero white this afternoon. In the end, the TS26 was not so bad, but once I started with the Zero white, I was just shaking my head. Predictable pressure as opposed to the rattlecans, not the possibility of the odd bubbly bit that I manage to get every now and then. Just a joy to work with compared to the cans. Before you ask - I did not want to mix paint layers and have the fluo red from zero as well. After my Spidey bike, I have promised to try to find a substitute for TS36! (It took ages to harden properly, just stayed goo-ey.) I am yet to try this one, but will during the week. And the correct fluo red has allways remained the holy grail, so maybe he hit the jackpot!

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, June 3, 2007 11:45 AM

 I think Im going to do the Pons then the Yamaha the yellow and black one '04,'05 not sure of the year.  At that point Ill have worked with Zero and ready for the Honda

Dustin

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, June 3, 2007 5:39 PM
Very nice work being posted.  Which brings me to a question.  I'm normally a WW II airplane guy so all my work has been with MM acrylic flats & weathering.  I've painted the Willys with MM acrylic gloss black and have some surface imperfections.  I'm thinking that I need to let the paint dry at least two days and then wet sand with some very fine sandpaper, or possibly use toothpaste (did that on a candy apple red car a few years ago and it worked fine). I'm also thinking that another coat/sand may be necessary after the inital wet sand.  Any thoughts?

Bob

 

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Posted by F1champ on Monday, June 4, 2007 3:04 AM
 williamsfw28 wrote:

     F1 looks like your moving right along...  Looks good.   By the way do you have any pics of the F2001 engine.....side view?? 

  

My F2001 reference pics are on a different computer, I'll try and post those tomorrow. 

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Posted by F1champ on Monday, June 4, 2007 3:08 AM

 bobbaily wrote:
Very nice work being posted.  Which brings me to a question.  I'm normally a WW II airplane guy so all my work has been with MM acrylic flats & weathering.  I've painted the Willys with MM acrylic gloss black and have some surface imperfections.  I'm thinking that I need to let the paint dry at least two days and then wet sand with some very fine sandpaper, or possibly use toothpaste (did that on a candy apple red car a few years ago and it worked fine). I'm also thinking that another coat/sand may be necessary after the inital wet sand.  Any thoughts?

 

I usually wait a few days before trying to wetsand any final coats and then attack it with a microfiber cloth and some tamiya polishing compound. Toothpaste should do the same thing, just go at it lightly since it's easier to polish paint off than it is to put it back on haha. If it doesn't come out the way you want just put another nice coat of paint on it and wet sand it again. 

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, June 4, 2007 5:51 AM
Thanks F1champ.

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, June 4, 2007 3:57 PM
 Thanks F1

Dustin

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, June 11, 2007 8:26 AM

Soooo... the colour for this weekend was blue. To be exact, TS51. But before that, a whooole lot of masking. Then to add insult to onjury, there were some water droplets on the FW24's front section causing runs (nearly with me as well!) as soon as I sprayed the paint. Ah well, some more work to clean that up, but was happy after yesterday eve's final coat.

So this morning was the time to take off the masking. Front masking looked succesfull enough at first inspection. Yet to remove the masking for the cockpit. Then started removing the masking over the engine cover. I did not get far before I saw some blue mist having gotten in, but by then it was time to ride to work. Will inspect further tonight and post some pics. It may be a sad sight if I look at the weird place the mist got in allready...

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, June 11, 2007 11:41 AM
Yeah, okay, did not turn out a total mess, but there was some places that could've been better. Masking was never my favourite! No major probs and even the cockpit survived the ordeal...
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