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Auto racing GB March 2007-2008

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:13 AM

Anybody home...?

Here's what it looks like at this stage with mosth the painting out the way and decalling about to start (for some)> The MP4/2 is going to get another layer of clear, hopefully that won't be the screw-it-all-up layer. Had some issues with the red having masked it badly at the rear, showing you the worst side...

 

The parts not recognisable to 4-wheel-only guys are the LCR Honda RC211V I'm also doing (Casey Stoner's MotoGP bike of last year).

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Posted by F1champ on Monday, June 25, 2007 4:59 PM

I didn't think the McLaren had a motorcycle engine in it :)

 

Here's the interior of the Enzo GT1, still working and working on the body work.

 

 

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:17 AM

F1Champ - that is looking great! Lotsa CF on that one - usually makes me go old before my time! Wink [;)]  How'd you get that texture on the seat? Or is it just an photo effect? It does look super.

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Posted by F1champ on Friday, June 29, 2007 9:15 PM

It's actually red flocking(I think that's the term). Just put some elmers all over the seat and dumped it on there. Went to the LHS today and bought more primer which I was running out of with all the body mods and should have it completely done/primed by monday so I can finally start putting down some Italian red on it.

 

Here it is drying so far.

 

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Posted by gulfstreamV on Friday, July 6, 2007 5:48 AM
The work I've seen so far is outstanding everyone! I'm definatly a back marker on this GB (well, all the gb's I joined ) I changed my kit choice to a Tamiya Jordan 191. The RA272 has alot of detail exsposed and I didn't think I was ready for all that. I got this kit for $10 on sale and figured I'd practice on it first. Here's a WIP pic of where I'm at with it.       These cars are alot of work! And I'm really slow at builing them.
Stay XX Thirsty, My Fellow Modelers.
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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Friday, July 6, 2007 6:42 AM

Ah, the 191, what a lovely kit! Somebody, can't rrecall who, said a while ago that it was the last pretty F1 car made - with all the aero junk hanging off them nowadays, I'd agree with that sentiments.

Looks like you made a good start. Just beware of the rear wing. From what I can remember (built it years ago - Zanardi's Pepsi version just to be different!) it's the one slightly tricky thing in this kit. Take your time on that...

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  • From: Bedfordshire, England
Posted by ollie on Friday, July 6, 2007 12:05 PM
Is it possible to enter a model in this group build and another? I whant to build a rally car and enter it in this one and the 'once we where warriors'
www.overthefencephotography.co.uk - aircraft photos.
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  • From: Central Texas
Posted by NucMedTech on Friday, July 6, 2007 9:07 PM

Hey guys,

I've been away for awhile (infamous model slump), but I do have some progress on my Porsche. I'll get some progress pics up this weekend.Cowboy [C):-)]

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, July 7, 2007 1:47 AM

Ollie, I can't see any probs with that. The more the merrier!

As for my progress... it got a bit of a knock when I did something really stuuupid, nothing to do with modeling! Yes, my idiocity extends even further... Took a bit of a tumble on a MTB ride and my body was quite sore and stiff after that. What I did not realise was that it was not only because of the fall, but also a start of some flu... and went out riding the next day to get rid of the stiffness. It was raining, which did not help... Whistling [:-^] So I ended up quite ill for most of last week. Better now, hoping to be on the bike tomorrow again... The FW24's engine is mostly done, I added the exhausts yesterday evening.

I will think about the next step, because I'll definately want to start decalling the body and so on. Allready started some of the detail work on the front wing (building and painting, not decalling) . So maybe I'll traverse the instructions yet again and do some decalling and wings as well as the steering wheel (which I suspect will be quite a mission to get halfway right, so I'd rather start on that now and not be rushed to finished it) between the rest.

MP4/2 is standing there looking sad. I did the interior semigloss black and some paint touch-ups. As Murphy would have it, my final wet coat did cause some minor issues... no other layer will attract some particles as the last one! Banged Head [banghead]

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  • From: Central Texas
Posted by NucMedTech on Sunday, July 8, 2007 7:12 PM

Okay, not much progress but here are some pics.

 

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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  • From: Central Texas
Posted by NucMedTech on Monday, July 9, 2007 12:23 PM
Quick question, since I'm used to builing flat coat models (tanks, airplanes and such), as I am getting closer to painting the body is there a recommended type of paint? Not brand but enamel, acrylic or lacquer? Thanks for the info.Cowboy [C):-)]

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by ps1scw on Monday, July 9, 2007 12:28 PM
What will Dale Jr's. new car look like next year?  Will he be in the #5 car or something different.  I understand it is goodbye to the red bud #8.
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  • From: Rochester, NY
Posted by silentmodeler on Monday, July 9, 2007 2:16 PM

hey guys   i been away for a long time    finally got started on my #3  Dale.  i was very clumpsy doing it since i was been doing aircraft mostly.   will post up some pictures once the engine is done. 

btw  looking great cars you got there!  keep it up smiles.

"Do, do not, theres no try" ~Yoda
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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:50 AM

NucMedTech - I tend to use laquers for the body. Almost exclusively Tamiya rattlecans and Zero paints (auto laquers available from Hiroboy). Where needed, other laquers such as Finishers, etc. to get a good match. But since I found the Zero stuff, I converted to that - really excellent stuff!

For the rest (engine, etc) I use whatever I can lay my hands on! Acrylics, enamels, you name it, mostly Tamiya. The odd bit of Alclad here and there. Nothing you won't be familiar with.

Hope it helps! 

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Posted by F1champ on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:15 PM

Alright here's the finished product.

 

Now that you've seen it I'll get into my list of problems with the finished product. First off I had to rush the end because I'm moving apartments in about a week so I wanted to get it finished up rather than transport it in progress so that detracted a bit from the finished product. My second issue is the fact that I started with a 12$ Revell kit that I had previously assembled 3-4 years ago so the fitament isn't quite that nice and because of the rushed deadline I didn't get to clean up some of the pieces (headlight lenses/side mirrors) as well as I would have liked. The paint isn't as clean as I would have liked and the body still doesn't fit complete to the underbody of the car (the same as it didn't the first time I built it).

 

As long as I don't look too close to it I'm very happy with the way it turned out. Definitely looks the way I wanted it to and the fenders came out great after lots (felt like forever) of work on them. This was my first model that I have done that had any scratch building on it so I'd like to think it's a good start, but then again we are our own worst critics. 

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Posted by gulfstreamV on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:27 AM
Hey all!, SeaBee Thanks for the tip on the rear wing. Lol it does take a bit of fiddling with that stack of spoilersBanged Head [banghead] NucMedTech excellent work on the Porsche. F1champ looks great!   I'm progressing slow but forward. The decals were almost a total loss from decal#1 (mostly my fault) so I decided to make up a livery. Not the PEPSI Zanardi SeaBee but a what if test car, not to mention I don't like green race cars.    Check it out!      
Stay XX Thirsty, My Fellow Modelers.
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  • From: Central Texas
Posted by NucMedTech on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:42 PM

Thanks for the info Seabee. And I appreciate the comments GulfstreamV, you're doing a great job on the F1 car.F1Champ that Ferarri looks awesome. I'm finished working on the chassis and now I'm ready to start work on the body. BTW I'm also working on my Mercedes CLK DTM, would it be okay to add this to the group build. It's about one step behind the Porsche. Cowboy [C):-)]

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:44 PM

DTM Merc... 4 wheels, raced a bit... heck yeah sure it qualifies! Wink [;)] Just finished one a couple of months ago myself (D2 version). Did a Oriiginal Teile one when they came out, was unfortunately ruined in a house move. Which one are you doing? I did a see-through Porsche also a while ago. Yet somehow I don't even see it on my display place any more. I fear my sister-in-law's kids were here a while ago. Banged Head [banghead]

Progress will be a bit slow for the next couple of days, major project going in at work over the weekend. But did the interior of the bodyshell of the FW24, as well as starting on the decalling and steering wheel. These Censored [censored] modern F1 cars' steering wheels... Sorry, had to get that out of the system! I've seen some superb ones over the years, mine won't be one.

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  • From: Central Texas
Posted by NucMedTech on Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:20 PM

Cool, I kinda figured it'd be okay, just wanted to make sure. It's the team D2 year 2000 Merc. CLK. Here is where I'm at right now.

and some more pics of the porsche.

Right now I'm preparing the bodies for painting, hopefully I'll get some paint done this weekend

Cowboy [C):-)]

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:19 AM
Why oh why does this happen? Built the rear wing assembly, and then proceeded to what I thought would be quite simple decalling. I am using the S27 decals, not the kit-supplied ones - much better silver lines and very nice and thin. 4 HP logo's and 4 invents beneath it. What a mission! To get all 8 of them decently lined up and spaced and straight and... well, you got the picture. I don't think there's going to be more difficult decals in this build. And having done it all, the one HP logo sagged slightly after I left it to dry.

The front wing is assembled, remebered about the Allianz decals on the endplates before the winglet over it. Dry fitted the nosecone, perfect! And Murphy's 3rd law of modeling goes something in the line of "All this changes with glue on the pieces." Suddenly with glue on , the one arm coming down all of the sudden did not fit into it's hole and had to be moved there... thus removing the paint underneat it very cleanly. Will still find a way to fix that.

I even took the MP4/2 out of it's misery and actually started working on it's instrument panel. At least that went well! Next thing there is suspension.
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Posted by NucMedTech on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:48 PM

SeaBee-Sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope it will be easy to fix.

I've got the bodies on the Porsche and Merc together enough to start painting. I plan on getting as much done as I can prior to the weekend so I can start decaling the models on the weekend. Both cars have alot of decals to place so I assume that it will take awhile to complete. So far everything is going quite well.

One question, as I seem to be getting into the joy of car building, Are there any injection molded kits of ALMS or Le Mans cars other than the revell corvette? If not what about reasonably priced resin kits? I really cant afford $75-100 dollars for model kits.Cowboy [C):-)]

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:07 AM

Take your time on those decals! It's not half as bad as it looks, just don't rush it!

As for your question on Le Mans cars - Tamiya does have a couple of older cars. From memory there's the Nissan R390, Silk Cut Jaguar (XJR12?), Sauber C9 and Toyota 020. Some less available ones will be the ones I'll get as soon as I can get my hand on one - Porsche 956 and 962. But talking about modern stuff, only one available I can think of will be the Revell R10. And then of course the resin kits... 

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Posted by F1champ on Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:48 PM
Have you done the Revell R10? I'm assuming it will be the same quality as other Revell's and not up to Tamiya standard. I'd love to do an R10 but also don't want to spend 100$ on just the kit.
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, July 27, 2007 1:30 AM
Nope, not even available in SA yet! But will grab one soon as I can. Some of the newer Revell stuff are stepping up in quality, hope this is another improvement. Even if it just makes a nice curbside, I'd go for it. Will fit nicely next to the R8 I built for earlier in this GB.
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Posted by NucMedTech on Wednesday, August 1, 2007 12:58 PM

Looking forward to the R10, hopefully we'll see more Le Mans cars in plastic.

As for my projects- I've started decaling the Merc. Going slowly to try and keep everything aligned correctly. So far it is going well, I have the driver's side and top finised.

I had problems with painting the Porsche. Did not know white would bee this difficult to airbrush. So I cleaned it of and started again, I think it is going much better this time. I'll try to get pics up this weekend.Cowboy [C):-)]

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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  • From: Central Texas
Posted by NucMedTech on Sunday, August 5, 2007 10:37 PM

Well, here are my pics of this weekends progress.

Solvaset hasn't finished working on the decal, hopefully it will smooth out better.

I still need to put the clear coat on (plus the final polish) and then the final detail parts. Hope to finish it by this upcoming weekend.Cowboy [C):-)]

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, August 6, 2007 3:43 AM
Sorry for laughing with (not at!) you... white is a pain! With my current workbench I should know - white-based liveries on 3 models simultaniously... Just how daft could I have been! Silver can also be a real headache at times. But it's looking real good, well done on the decals!

My MP4/2 is still wondering whether I can do anything to it except for the bodywork that was painted and... yes, still nothing else. Maybe this weekend! The FW24 got some more decals, some build progress and is going along slowly but surely. I did the front suspension over the weekend. Decided to try for a CF look, painted, not decalled. (OTB build, remember!) And then... realised the rear suspension, allready long assembled, is painted semigloss black. Censored [censored] So now in the process of repainting that by hand, still the smoke layer to come tonight.

As for the decalling - I have an interesting situation. I've ended up using a mix of the supplied Tamiya decals and the S27 ones. "Issues" I had with the S27 ones were that the decals for the rear cowling weren't split up to accommodate the split in the cowling (both on the Allianz and the BMW Power with the fuel flaps, not yet applied). The other big thing was the silver line running on the top of the sidepod. The S27 one has a very handy feature in that the white partition is included in the indent, thus enabling you to mask easier. Having gone for the proper masking option, this would not have been such a bif deal... had I not allready installed the sidepod winglets. So there I also went for Tamiya's line-only option. Obviously I went with the Tamiya lines for the rest of that section to avoid colour differences. Apart from that, decals went on fine and the worst part of the build thusfar was masking for the blue.
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  • From: Belgium
Posted by DanCooper on Monday, August 6, 2007 7:59 AM

Hi, I'm afraid I'm a little confused about the rules of this GB.  What I would like to know is, if it is alright to enter with a partially built model.

I have this old Tamiya F1 kit for which I already assembled the engine and a few other parts. I don't exactly remember why I had put this kit aside (but I do know the fit isn't what we are now used to with Tamiya).

So if it is ok, I would like to join in on this GB with this little kit, if a fresh kit is needed to join, just let me know and I'll go shopping...

 

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Monday, August 6, 2007 9:08 AM

It's got wheels, it's been raced, it's eligable! Wink [;)] Dan, I was allready running with some of my stuff before the GB officially started, so absolutely no worries there in my opinion.

Looks like you allready put some effort into that engine wiring. What kit is it? 

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  • From: Belgium
Posted by DanCooper on Monday, August 6, 2007 9:15 AM

Thanks for the welcome Smile [:)]  The kit is the old Tamiya Tyrell P34 (1977 Monaco GP), the white and blue six-wheeler.

The kit seems pretty old, although the copyright stuff says 2001, my guess is that it's a least 15 years older than that.  I even had to close up a battery compartement, so the orriginal issue of this kit must have been motorized. 

Edit : I just realized, Seabee that you have seen the above pictures before, since I started this kit for the F1 GB over a year ago. 

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

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