Auto racing GB March 2007-2008

Nearly got myself that kit the other day! Reason for the confusing copyright dates is they came out with the 77 Monaco version a couple of years ago (can't imagine it having been that long ago!) which was basically a rereleased 76 version. Don't know what was changed except for the decals in the kit itself. (From what you said, not much!)

I know there were some small changes on the car, esp the nose, between 76 and 77. Obviously I'm thinking of converting it back to the 76 version, as it was driven by Jody Schekter, should I get one.

Minor update picture : transmission assambly...

SeaBee wrote:

I know there were some small changes on the car, esp the nose, between 76 and 77.

On the picture I have there seems to be two oil coolers, one on each site of the wing, however on a detailed drawing and on the kit, there is only one cooler, the one on the right side of the wing.  Might that be a change on the 1/1 that was not changed on the kit ?  The picture I have doesn't reveal what season it was taken, and neither does the drawing.

Also discovered a couple of minor color mistakes from Tamiya, mainly one the front suspension area and a corrugated tube that doesn't seem to be in the kit (also on the front suspension).

SeaBee wrote:

Dan, unless I'm seriously mistaken, it's very easy to tell the diffs between 76 and 77 P34's - they used a completely different colourscheme. In 77 they used the scheme you're building, white on the blue with some bank's sponsoring. In 76 it was just bright yellow decals on blue with very little sponsoring - from memory I think it was justabout only elf.

What was I thinking, I should have expected this remark, you're right about how easy it is to see the differences between the two seasons, but what I ment was that the picture I have doesn't show the complete car, only the engine and part of the wing-mount.  Besides, it's not an orriginal picture from the 70's, it's P34 being restored. 

Greetings one and all.  Still alive here, but been working on the Tamiya 1/32 Zero for the last 6 months.  All done now (and it doesn't even qualify for the Pearl Harbor GB) but that's life.  Anyway, next on deck is the S27 2004 BAR.  Boy does that kit give a couple of heart issues.  The body mounted wing is also molded to the real cowl.  And of course a different color than the rest of the chassis.  Figures. I've added the front wing supports and flushed them with the body.  Now prepping the rest of the parts for primer. 

Also on deck is the Tameo 1/43 Jordan 191, which of course was M. Schumacher's first F1 ride.  Really cool kit, nice detail.  Couple of huge issues.  For some silly reason Tameo molded the underside of the tub with the pan.  Which of course when you put the pan up to the body there are these monster size gaps that appear.  So, taking a lesson from Akihiro Kamimura I'm going to cut off the lip and solder it to the bottom of the body.  (BTW, if you don't know his website, "God Dwells in Small Things" look it up.  What that man does in 1/43 should be considered a world treasure.) 

Pictures to follow if and when I can drag myself from the workbench long enough to download them.  SeaBee will like this, delay forthcoming in modeling.  New puppy on the way.

Cheers all,

Il Leone

Haha, Il Leone, the lion with a memory of an elephant! A pup is allways a good reason to take a break in your modeling. Just beware, at times they also cause breaks in your models... Good to have you back! What pup is it?

Something you said baffled me and had a quick look at my reference pics. Far as I can tell, the BAR004's side-pod-winglet (at the lack of a better word) is white, same as the rest of the body. Which would make it being molded in a goodis thing. Was this for a specific race version where it says it must be different that I might have missed it? I have a 2002/3 season yearbook with nice pics, so if they have a BAR pic of that race, I'll try to confirm. Very handy book, having the F2002 in 1:12 and two FW24's at the very least I can think of from that season I have to build!

GDIST is THE website to make you come back to earth! Absolute stunning work - better than my 1:20's!

Dan, sorry about the misunderstanding!

At the very moment I am cursing all engineers at Williams and Tamiya. These air defelctors around the front suspension is a real right and royal pain the butt. And I haven't even started with the bigger of the two, which might want me to break down everything upto now. Let's hope for the best! Really the first thing in this whole kit that is a bit of an issue. Maybe I'm overcomplicating it.

Greetings:

I have Cavalier King Charles Spaniels, easier for you to google than for me to explain.  But pretty much lazy lap dogs, once they grow up! 

The wing I was referring to is located on the very back of the rear wheel flip-ups.  It went all the way across the rear cowl area and was right in front of the rear wings.  I have to search my memory, but I think BAR was the first team to use this and most teams followed suit fairly quickly.  For 2004, it is black and is also part of the rear cowling.  BAR had, from front to back, red, tan and black on the rear cowl.  The red and tan are decals, more on that later, with the black being painted.  The trick will be to glue in the wing without creating a huge nasty seam line.  

The side pod flip-ups you were referring to are also some nasty little monsters.  Thank heaven they are white, but should be real fun polishing out the paint.  So far the rear suspension looks 1000% better than the McLaren I finished.  We won't go into that one.   I'm just having small coronaries overthe red decals.  If they are typical S27, should be no issue.  Just a few nights of VERY delicate decalling.  If not, well then...  The only major screw up on the kit is the exhaust ports.  The BAR had round pipes coming out a round hole on the cowl.  S27 molded the exhaust ports as if they were the headers themselves.  Oh well, insert some tubing and it will look fine.  

Back to the grind.  BTW, anyone else out there going to IPMS Nats in LA?  

Interesting - maybe a later-season version? All the pics I have at work are whithout it. At least I think I now know what you're talking about! BTW, I have a fun pic of the BAR004 "taken apart" - do you have it or should I post it for you? BTW, the decals are brilliant. You don't need to worry about them. I did a 004 mock-up (did not do a full conversion!) on a F2001 using the S27 decals and they simply flew on. 

Will also check on the dogs tonight. I've had the lap-sitting problem over the weekend and last night when I was baby-sitting our daughter. Building is a no-go! Then I sat her down on the chair in the study so I could just quickly do something. Cleared my windows screens, just desktop. Next thing I see is the windows bar coming up, she puts the pc to sleep, she wakes it up, then starts trying passwords! At 18 months old, we have a little demon... Yesterday evening was "heat-shield" evening. Applied the paint to the floorpan and the foil to the rear wing. Darn tricky when it's allready built up - let that be a lesson. I unhinged one side, glued back together in the same slot, so I hope it's still straight (that was roundabout the time my windows shutdown/hibernate/restart logo popped up!) At least for the rest of this build I'm ahead of the ball-game, or so I think, since I've completed a lot of the work allready. Just putting all together and I think a couple more decals end definately some details to add. Suddenly the end is in sight. Which is good, since I'm going on leave shortly!

Belated welcome Dan.Your engine is looking good. Did the wiring come with the kit or is it something you added? I've just completed my first two cars and I'm interested in how to detail my engines further.

Speaking of which, here are my completed models.

I really enjoyed building these kits, so much so that I bought Tamiya's Avex Dome NSX and the R390 GT. I'd like to thank everyone for their help with my models.

At least I'm not the only one with that problem! I tend to buy more than I can build!  

Man, was I underwhelmed this weekend... After struggling quite a bit to get it right, I pitch up at the model to find one of those aero deflectors (well, one whole side's) to have been broken off in my absence. And not just brokenm off, completely gone and removed all evidence. I have my suspicions - and those do not include the dogs, the mrs or the 18-month-old daughter... Now I'm sort-of stuffed there. I can either leave the remaining side's deflectors on and just hope nobody notices the other side or take that off and have it look a bit more "balanced" even if it's not right. I'm sure you guys understand that I was so PO'ed that I did not even want to build over the weekend!

Yesterday I decided to take up the challenge again. I am going for the "hoping-no-one-will-notice" option at this stage, will just display the car with the correct side facing. You eagle-eyed bunch will of course see it on all the front-on pics - even if I did not tell you! I attached the engine to the monocoque. Why one earth that protrusion (over which the engin must slide to mount) was so long, I don't know. To make life easier I cut it off so that there's just a stub remaining to help with allignment.

Hopefull to mount all of that onto the floorpan tonight. Might also attach the nosecone. Once that's all sorted, it's just wheels, mirrors and antannae I can think of. 

Some progress, with pics even! Conditions weren't good, so excuse the quality of the pics. Almost done, even wheels are 90% done. Just a couple more decals and then it's basically done, hope to finish later today!

View from the top:

Engine bay (the airbox was deliberately removed)

Some nice work being turned out here.

I've been awol for awhile.  This life thing is getting in the way of my hobbies....anyway, I ended up stripping the acrylic off of the Willy's and repainting, using Krylon straight out of the can.  Had a bit of orange peel, so I wet sanded and shot a heavy coat of Krylon.  Looks much better.  For me, black is a hard color to get 'right'.  I'm hoping to polish it out this weekend and shoot a coat of Future and get the decals on soon.  Then on to the engine & chasis....

Just two little notes:

The Cobra is done, and I'll have completion pics in a few days.

Also, in a few days I'll be starting a build with my two older kids. It's the first paint-and-glue model for each of them, so I'll be the "co-builder" and definitely I'll be applying most (maybe all) of the decals.

Theese are the kits, both are Revellogram in 1/24 scale:

Bill Elliot's McDonalds Taurus

Todd Bodine's Tabasco Grand Prix

Howzit guys,

Been  out of town on holidays for a bit, so not much happened. Thanks for the comments. Got the car finished, and will try to get the Future on today and get some pics soon afterwards. Small fitment prob on the sidepod, but might've been me misinterpreting some instructions earlier. It just does not close properly...

Man, I just love those Nascar kits, but they're not available here. Maybe I should just pluck my finger out my ear and get one over. Would love to see those built! 

Okay, here it is... The frontside pic also shows decal issues, looks much worse on the pic than IRL... Very nice kit to build, only issue is the blue-white masking on the sidepod.

From the high side:

Front-end:

Side shot:

As allways open for critic, only way to learn... I'm terribly aware of the bad join between the nosecone and the monocoque, no need to tell me about that as well! 

Update on the twin NASCAR build: Started with the kids at the kitchen table. We painted a lot of aluminum tonight! Laid down aluminum and steel on most of the engine parts and even managed (to my daughter's delight) to finally switch to something a little more colorful--distributors and spark plug wires! Sky blue for the McDonalds Taurus and bright red for the Tabasco Grand Prix.

Tomorrow night: Steel on the headers, acrylic wash on the engine parts and...well, we'll see how far we get after that.

I want to participate!

 I have a Tamiya Ferrari F1-2000 and a Hasegawa Lancia Stratos that I picked up at a show a while back and have been itching to build them.

Welcome aboard - show us some progress!

Started off on the Tyrrel 020 (the Braun-sponsored one). Had the kit in the cupboard and just liked it, being a bit different-looking. Sojust doing a quick curbsider here. Prescribed colour was not quite right, so I put some smoke over it and it looks better to my eye now. Maybe way off the real thing, but the TS42 was just too light to my liking. Has a small run with TS42, which was amplified greatly when the smoke came over it. Should not be visible, though, since it's going to be covered with white. Yes, I am really skimping and even doing the white with the decals! 

Had a root canal done early in the morning, so I didn't really feel like doing anything other than sit and the work bench and work on the Lancia.......I did almost all of this today.....

 I think since we have until March, I am also going to do the Lancia 037 that I have had sitting on the shelf for about 3 years.

Got the underbody complete today.....need to get some paint for the body before I can finish....

Thanks!

I am just coming back into model building, and I have always leaned more towards aircraft with a few cars here and there....but building this Stratos..I really am enjoying it. I should have some pics of the F1-2000 soon.

Teeth suck! My dentist is pretty good though. I have had two extractions and a root canal from him and haven't felt a thing......the most painful part of the whole procedure is the dentist's singing.