MiG Killers Group Build, 7/07 to 6/08

deathrattler32 wrote:

so does the kit have to have markings for a plane that shot down a mig or just a version of the plane cuz i got 2 ideas either a f-15 or a skyraider but like to get more info

I had explained to ww2 on first page that the plane need not have the kill markings. You can add them or leave them off... its your choice. The point being is to build the way you want with no rules or restrictions other than your model be of an aircraft that has a Mig Kill.

Air Master

Arrrgh.......

I made a promise not to buy anymore kits until I finished the ones in the stash, but I dont have any MiG killers in there.   ( A few Migs....no killers)

Count me in for a F-86F....probably the 1/48 Academy kit.  I have no idea on which specific aircraft to model, but I figure I'll have lots and lots  (and lots) of choices.

 Ok....Im off to Sprue Brothers........

(Wife is gonna kill me.) 

Gotcha Cj an F-86F it is! You can blame it on me.

Air Master

Cool, I'm on it.  I'm lucky, this 1/32 Tamiya kit only cost me $2 worth of raffle tickets.  And it's a beautiful kit.

Semper Fi,

Chris

Welcome aboard Ridle, sidure. deathrattler and Cj!

Air Master

deathrattler32 wrote:

so does the kit have to have markings for a plane that shot down a mig or just a version of the plane cuz i got 2 ideas either a f-15 or a skyraider but like to get more info

Death, Basicly this is a themed group build and the subject is about aircraft that shot down Mig's. You chose an F-15C as your MiG Killer, now before you start building it do some research on the F-15C and see if there were any that shot down MiG's in Operation Desert Storm, Enduring Freedom or over Afganistan, next see if you can find decals for that F-15C and then build the model as you normally would. Post your progress, ask for advice and help.

The A-1 Skyraider cannot be counted because it was a close support aircraft and I dont there was one that shot down a Mig. I could be wrong.

Air Master 

Air Master Modeler wrote:

The A-1 Skyraider cannot be counted because it was a close support aircraft and I dont there was one that shot down a Mig. I could be wrong. Air Master

Believe it or not.............

 But those are not as surprising as this one.......

A kill with freaking Zuni rockets.........pwned!!!

Somebody has got to build that one.

cj95 wrote:

Air Master Modeler wrote:   The A-1 Skyraider cannot be counted because it was a close support aircraft and I dont there was one that shot down a Mig. I could be wrong. Air Master      Believe it or not............. 20Jun65 VA-25 A-1H C.Johnson   20mm MiG-17 (shared) 20Jun65 VA-25 A-1H C.Hartman III   20mm* MiG-17 (shared) 9Oct66 VA-176 A-1H W. Patton   20mm MiG-17    But those are not as surprising as this one.......   1May67 VA-76 A-4C T. Swartz   Zuni Rocket MiG-17 A kill with freaking Zuni rockets.........pwned!!! Somebody has got to build that one.

Well I'll be . LOL I stand corrected! Thanks Cj! Your going to be a wealth of information for this GB. Keep it up!

Air Master

Death....sinceI was on the page looking up the A-1 kills, I figured I would copy down all the ODS victories.......F-15 or otherwise.

I kinda like the first one....the manuver kill credited to the EF-111   too bad it wasnt a MiG or I'd be tempted to build that one.

Thats a kill with style baybe! 

And since we're on the topic.....the F-15 kills from the Balkans

yes in nam there was actuall 2 skyraiders involved in shooting down the mig. the 1/48 tamiya A1-H has the kill marking and i read the article on the firefight and they actually have a debriefing u can listen to on the battle the mig went after the one skyraider and the 2nd skyraider got the angle on the mig and shot it down here is the site with the radio conversation that was taped from the uss intrepid

http://skyraider.org/skyassn/sartapes/migkill/migkill.htm

deathrattler32 wrote:

yes in nam there was actuall 2 skyraiders involved in shooting down the mig. the 1/48 tamiya A1-H has the kill marking and i read the article on the firefight and they actually have a debriefing u can listen to on the battle the mig went after the one skyraider and the 2nd skyraider got the angle on the mig and shot it down here is the site with the radio conversation that was taped from the uss intrepid http://skyraider.org/skyassn/sartapes/migkill/migkill.htm

Ok Rattler, Do you want to change your build to a A-1 Skyraider? If so let me know so I can mark down the change. If you still also want to build that F-15C that is perfectly cool with me.

Let me know what you decide.

Air Master

deathrattler32 wrote:

and as u can see i tried to get that patch and didnt work so if u could help me with that it would be great lol

Go to http://photobucket.com/ and create a free account. Next upload the badge your going to use to your album. After it uploads go to your album and checkmark it then below the image click on HTML tag and copy the code. Go to back FSM sign in and go to your profile and click on update profile, in the signature area paste the code and click save changes and go back to forum and it should show up

Guys,

 We still need 3 or more people to join. If you know anyone thats interested get them over here! The more ... the merrier!

Air Master

Thanks Cj for that great site, lots of great interesting info. It does show that there were two confirmed Marine Mig kills. Regretfully none in a F-8 that I can find. One was a VMFA-333 F-4J but I already have four of them built as it was my old squadron. The other one was a Marine pilot in a USAF F-4, wonder what that was all about?. So, I guess I will save the F-8 for my Marine collection and I will enter with an F-4 since I have about six of them in the stash. Can never have enough F-4's.

Steve

He Rattler thats what we are all here for. The best way to learn new things and make a lot of friends with a wealth of knowledge. Getting involved in GB's is is the way to go and learning along the way. By the way welcome.

Steve

Yup! I'm with Steve on this. Every new skill and technique I know I learned from people here, from scribing to weathering. Group Builds are great to be a part of because you will learn things you didn't know you could do and be a better modeler for it. 

Air Master

I couldn't resist the temptation to open the kit and check it out.  The previous owner did touch some of the kit parts, but only the ejection seats.  The kit seats are already assembled and primed, plus a pair of resin ejection seats are in the box already assembled and primed. 

A triple inventory of the box hasn't reveiled any missing parts.  The instruction book is 20 pages long, and there are alot of metal screws for a PLASTIC model kit.  The fuselage section is BIG, about 18 inches long without the nose and tail.  This thing may end up being 20 or 21 inches long.  I haven't started this monster yet, but I'm really looking forward to it. 

Maybe I'll go up to the AirForce museum in Dayton on Wednesday to check out the real thing. 

Semper Fi,

Chris

Speaking of learning new techniques, I'm gonna go for the bare metal foil on my F-86 when it arrives.

Never done this, so it may end up a  sticky mess.  However, I have never been impressed with photos of Alclad built models so this is my only option......

Now Im just trying to decide if I want to add a resin cockpit.   

Ridle, The Tamiya 1/32 F-15E is pretty much the same.. has screws for securing parts and the metal landing gear. I have the Strike Eagle in my stash and picked it up at a garage sale still brand new unopened for $15.00. Thats practicly stealing it, hehehe.

I suggest you go with the resin seats but add the ejection hoses from the box set to it. I am using a Legend F-4J resin set in my Phantom. (see picture) Ejection hoses on top on seat is from the box. Paint seat accordingly and add the hoses last with a bit of super glue.

Cj, I would look into Photo Etch set before you consider a resin set. Having worked with both resin and PE I feel PE is alot easier to work with. Below is a pic of my F-8E, this gunfighter was published in an article I submitted to ARC and I used an Eduard F-8 PE set for the cockpit detail.

PE cockpit

Actual Model

Just my

Air Master

Sweet-looking 'pit there, Rand!! ...and great work on the Crusader!

$15 for that 1/32 F-15?! That's about as good a deal as it can get. Nicely done!

Well, so far we have 7, Rand, and even if we don't make it to 10, I say we should not pull the plug on this GB. Seems as though there are a lot already committed to other GB's, and 7 is really not such a bad number. I have 7 signed up for my Lockheed GB and I'm ecstatic! I think this GB will draw plenty in the amount of interest and late arrivals.

Hey Rand

 Put me down for an 1/48 F-4E ProModeler.  I've got some Two-Bobs decals that has an F-4E that got a probable.  Would that work, or does it have to be confirmed? 

Also, would WWII German Eastern Front stuff count?

Henry

ruddratt wrote:

Sweet-looking 'pit there, Rand!! ...and great work on the Crusader! $15 for that 1/32 F-15?! That's about as good a deal as it can get. Nicely done!   Well, so far we have 7, Rand, and even if we don't make it to 10, I say we should not pull the plug on this GB. Seems as though there are a lot already committed to other GB's, and 7 is really not such a bad number. I have 7 signed up for my Lockheed GB and I'm ecstatic! I think this GB will draw plenty in the amount of interest and late arrivals.

Mike, 

Make that 8 people participating, hwells just joined us. Welcome Aboard Henry! Your right, we do have enough people participating to go ahead with the July 15th start. OH YEAH!. We will still welcome late comers joining. I am excited myself about this GB since its the first one I've hosted. I can only hope I will be a gracious host and try to help everyone as much as possible.

Henry,

Cj might be able to dig up any F-4E Mig kills. I am sure there were many in later part of Vietnam. I cant find how he looked them up but I am sure as soon as he see's this he will get you some info. WWII German Mig kills wont count on this GB, its American fighters and attack aircraft from the Korean War to present that bagged a MiG or two or more.  

Air Master

Air Master Modeler wrote:

Mike,  Make that 8 people participating, hwells just joined us. Welcome Aboard Henry! Your right, we do have enough people participating to go ahead with the July 15th start. OH YEAH!

Yeah, I just caught that Rand. Awesome!!! Should be a great GB!!

LOL!!!

Excellent!!!

Guess I missed or forgot the parameters listed on the first post.  I'm probably going to do mine pretty much out of the box.  I do have a buttload of aftermarket stuff for a F-4E, but I want to get one built without anything special first before I go whole hog on one.  I may switch out the ejection seats for some resins though.

Henry