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DML Sdkfz 164 Nashorn COMPLETE pics p.14 03-13-10

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, February 6, 2010 8:11 PM

Thanks guys for dropping in and I definitely feel your pain Mike and Tony! As Wayne suggests, the weather isn't going to hold and I had to make the most of it. Wasn't trying to gloat by any stretch...temps were in the high 60s and clear skies but we're going to get hit hard tomorrow and Monday with rain and cold (for here) weather. Certainly didn't feel like February today that's for sure but it will tomorrow!

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Posted by panzerguy on Saturday, February 6, 2010 8:39 PM

 

Wow! I had no idea that the gun is longer than the vehicleSurprise.

Sorry Bill but I wont be happy till I see some cammoWink

          

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 6, 2010 9:07 PM

Great progress so far Bill.. I haven't been round too much lately so to drop by and see the progress was great. I don't think that open top vehicles can be beat. Just great.

Terry.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 11:04 AM

Steve, yep, it's huge! And that's even after they lengthened the standard Pz IV hull to accomodate the design! Propeller

You and Wayne will have to wait a while though for the camo...that's still some ways off in the distance but at least it's now visible on the horizon! Wink

Terry, good to see you! I'd been wondering where you had gotten off to lately! Thanks for the comments and hope you can drop by more often. Yes

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 7, 2010 12:02 PM

Very nice horn...nice blog, as we've come to expect from you, so don't stop or the angry mob will come to your house carrying torches...Wink

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 9:48 PM

Thanks Manny! Definitely have to watch out for those angry mobs...you never know who they will go after next! Big Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 7, 2010 10:04 PM

Superbowl Sunday notwithstanding, I did manage to get some detail work done today before everything shut down at 4 pm MST. First order of business involved the radios, the styrene patches and sides were painted a field gray using a custom mix of 50-50 Russian Armor Green and Panzer Schwarzgrau to restore their look and the support frames painted hull color. I attached them to the side of the loader's ammo bin with CA gel and then added the necessary wiring using 0.5mm solder to connect them up together and to provide connections to the transformer/power supply as well as the radio antenna. The rubber base of the antenna mount was also detailed and I positioned the headphones on top of the top set so that it wouldn't interfere with the ammo doors. I also repositioned the head phone wiring and touched it up here and there with Flat Red where some of the paint had flaked off due to handling.

I separate the warhead portion of the ammo from the brass casings and detailed them by hand for the different types of ammo. The HE rounds were painted with Deep Yellow and Steel for their fuse caps, the AP rounds were painted with non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal and the caps painted with Flat Light Gray, and the special tungsten core rounds with Panzer Schwarzgrau for a little variety.

The rounds were then loaded into the bin one at a time using small amounts of CA gel at the base to secure them in place. Once each round had set solid, it's partner was added next to it until the bin was fully loaded with 8 rounds. I still need to add the little PE retaining ends to the front supports and will do that before the bin is installed in place in the compartment.

I also got some of the details on the gun finished in the form of the gunner's sight and elevation/traverse wheels. The leather head pad was painted with a base coat of Italian Dark brown and then lightly dry brushed with enamel Gunmetal and the 50-50 mix of Dunkelgelb/Light Gray. I then counter-dry brushed the Italian Dark Brown to blend it back together and provide some subtle variation. The breech was also detailed using enamel Silver to round things out for now.

Still need to do some more weathering work on the gun before it's ready to be joined up with the splinter shield and installed into the fighting compartment but it's getting closer.

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, February 8, 2010 10:28 AM

Hi Bill,

I have Been watching this one closely than I realized I haven't posted in awhile so here I am to spread cheer and encouragement!

Your shells are beautiful!  Big Smile  Actually they are quite remarkable.  Love the breech details as well.  You will have another Shelf Queen here for sure!

Yes

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 8, 2010 12:21 PM

Thanks Edmund! Don't telly our wife that you're admiring another man's shells, she might not understand! Propeller

The fighting compartment offers a lot of opportunity for detailing. I found the two ammo cans that disappeared...they were in the kitchen on the floor under the table which means only one thing...one of the cats took them off the bench when I wasn't looking. Normally the door to the office/workbench is closed when I'm not in there but with the paint work on Sat I did a lot of shuffling in and out, so they had to have swiped in during one of those intervals. Thieving felines! Big Smile

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Posted by panzer88 on Monday, February 8, 2010 2:59 PM

Shaping up real nice. Awesome job on the radios and those shells are real purdy too.

     

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, February 8, 2010 3:46 PM

Bill - The rounds look good and the breech area looks great.

You need some ware on the recoil sled, needs to be a shiny steel color. Not sure looking at the gun exactly where that is. Also I cannot see the elevating and traversing gears....those too should be a steel color.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, February 8, 2010 3:55 PM

panzer88, thanks for the comments!

Mike, never fear, the wear is there on the recoil sled. The little stub portion that sticks out has the contact surfaces painted with Steel but it doesn't show up too well in the pics due to the angle and their short length. Once it's weathered and complete I think the contrast will show it off a bit more. The gun sits very far back on the sled due to its overall length so there's not much of the recoil sled there exposed as a result. The elevating and traversing gears are hidden away under the gun and aren't visible even though the parts are there. If they were visible I would've painted their steel contact surfaces as well though. I've got to stay on top of my gun details with you sharp-eyed arty guys around ya know! Wink Can't have another equilibrator lapse on my record. Smile

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, February 8, 2010 7:28 PM

 

Bill thats one nice rack you got there! (this seems to be the running gag on the armor forums latelyWhistling)

Seriously though those shells and that radio are really going to be as much a highlight of the interior as the gun itself!

 

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 9:10 AM

Thanks Steve! It's all Edmund's fault, first he starts talking about watching other men exercising, then he starts commenting on other men's shells and how beautiful they are...now it's all devolved into who has the nicer rack! WhistlingIndifferentPropeller

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Posted by scratchmod on Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:18 PM

Stick out tongue mmmm paint, that's what I'm talking about. Looking really good there Bill. I will leave the comments about your shells and rack to Ed. Wait I thought Ed had a thing for wheels, Confused

Keep up the great work Bill, she's coming along.

 

Rob

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:36 PM

Bill what I'm seeing of the painting so far is just brilliant. The ammo really looks the part and the breech is a beauty.

Terry.

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:06 PM

Thanks Rob! It would appear that Ed's tastes are expanding beyond just wheels these days! Wink

Terry, thanks for the comments as well, been working on some of the details and should have an update tomorrow once I get all the panels in place. Beer

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Posted by bbrowniii on Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:58 PM

Bill

I've taken to just lurking your WIP threads, holding all my comments until the build is complete, or nearly so, lest I run out of superlatives.  That being said, WOW, I am floored by your work.  We are having a smorgasbord of great builds with super interiors, what with your Nashy and Mutt's latest.  Really, really, really loving it! 

That PE work you did on the ammo racks....  WOW!  The amount of trouble I have getting the simplest pieces of PE together makes me insanely jealous of your skills!

OK, I'm going to hold my tongue now, lest I have nothing nice to say when it is all done... Zip it!Geeked

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:27 PM

Thanks Boyd for dropping in! Appreciate the comments but I can't take credit for the PE ammo racks as I think you're looking at the racks Karl (doog) built for his build a little while back. I ended up not using the DML provided PE since it was next to useless in many respects. Karl did an excellent job with his PE work, no question there so be sure to direct your jealousy towards him please! Stick out tongue

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Posted by bbrowniii on Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:36 PM

Bill

REALLY??!  You didn't use PE on those racks?  I recall you had some trouble with them, but thought you had used a different aftermarket set (I guess that was Karl and his Verlinden set?).

Well, regardless, I stand by my point - I covet your skills. Big Smile

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:01 PM

One of the great things about having a spouse that supports the hobby is that even when it's Valentine's Day weekend I'm still able to get some time in at the bench. A box of Godiva chocolates and a promise for dinner later this evening goes a very long way indeed.

Since the last update all of the efforts have been focused on the interior details and getting things squared away before assembling the panels of the fighting compartment. The loader's side got the majority of the attention. Using the pics in N&B 14, I decided to add the missing gas mask containers and holders for this side of the fighting compartment. I used a left over Eduard fire extinguisher bracket to rig up a holder with straps by cutting it down and using only the strap portion and combined that with a spare gas mask container from a Gen2 infantry gear sprue in the spares bin. The kit also didn't provide an MG34 so I scrounged one again from the spares bin and added it along with, you guessed, scrounged spares ammo cans to go in the bracket. I had to fold down the sight in order for i to fit in the space provided but otherwise it fit perfectly into the holders.

The panel was weathered first with an overall wash of Raw Umber. Since the paint had a full week to cure, I didn't seal it with Future but instead just applied the wash directly to the paint. The key here was to insure I didn't flood the surface to avoid it lifting the paint and letting it air dry. The photos show it a little darker than it actually came out and some of the areas are of course hidden by the ammo boxes so I didn't do much more to that space. For those areas that remained visible, I used a round 0 sable brush and prepped the brush as if I were going to dry brush but instead stippled the brush and applied some fine scratches/scuffs of Burnt Umber. This was followed up by stippling and dry brushing some of the original base color back over it to provide some depth and variation while still retaining the "grungy" factor.

I applied the same weathering approach to the gunner's side but left off the rabbit ears scope for now as I want to paint and detail that later after the exterior has been painted. Same thing with the MG34 swivel mounts, those will be added at a later step. I'm leaving them off now so I can have a clean masking surface to work with to protect the interior when the exterior is painted.

The rear plate was weathered as well and received the two crew MP40 weapons. The kit instructions have the wrong part numbers for these, you should use WB9 and not WB1 as called for. WB1 is designed with a separate folding stock and is meant for use if you were showing the gun in actual use vs. stowed in the holders. The instructions also don't tell you that you need to add parts WB5 to complete the full gun so watch out for that as well. I removed the clip magazine with sprue cutters as instructed and hollowed out the receiver using a #70 finger drill and very carefully squaring the opening with the tip of a #11 blade to add a little more detail here.

That just left the floor of the compartment to work on. I added the 2nd gas mask container and holder here as well and decided to add some crew helmets for the empty space at the rear. These were provided courtesy of the same gear sprue as the gas mask containers and glued in place after a quick check with the rear plate to be sure there wouldn't be any interference. I also added the cable for the remote release on the travel lock using a short length of 0.008" diameter waxed ship-rigging thread cut to size and glued in place with regular glue. Once the glue dried, I painted the cable with non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal.

For the floor itself, I added the weathering using the same process as the side panels but added some dirt/mud accumulation in the form of stippled Raw Sienna. I added some of this to the angled plate under the gun as well where the gunner's feet would likely rest or make contact for a little extra "lived in" feel.

This cleared the way for me to begin installing all the components into the fighting compartment and get the compartment itself assembled. Prior to installing the gun, I had given it the same weathering treatment as the rest of the compartment but with a lighter touch since the crew would've kept it well maintained for obvious reasons. The gun and splinter shield were installed and I permanently placed the loader's ammo bin as well while I still had plenty of room to work with.

The fighting compartment panels were then installed, starting at the front and adding the sides with the rear plate added last. The fit was ok for the most part but there were some areas where the angled front plates needed some putty work to fill small gaps that couldn't be addressed any other way. These gaps were filled and the joins lightly sanded with a sanding twig to round things out.

That clears the way for the rest of the exterior details to be added which means the exterior will likely get paint and camo next weekend!

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Posted by panzer88 on Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:13 PM

Some nice progress Bill. I love the little pile of german helmets, very nice touch.

     

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:18 PM

OH Bill she's taken shape now.Cool Looking forward to next weekend.

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:43 PM

Ooooh, she's looking good Bill!  Too bad you have to install the sides and hide that great interior, but at least you can see down inside from the top!

Ernest

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:26 PM

Thanks panzer88, appreciate the comments!

Tony, you and me both! This one's on track to be done before the month's out if things continue at this pace.

Ernest, you're right about the fighting compartment making it tougher to see the interior from a lighting/camera perspective but still plenty to see on the real deal. One of the joys and pains of working with an open top vehicle!

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:19 PM

Bill - I appologize....I have a house full of estrogen and even with the hobby support, flowers, dinner, etc....somehow I missed your post.

With all that said, nice work. I like the way the floor turned out.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:56 PM

No worries Mike, I'm sure the V-Day weekend was distracting for all of us to one degree or another! Wink Thanks for the comments, glad you like the flooring. Beer

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Posted by scratchmod on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:01 PM

YesYes VERY nice Bill as always. A very nice clean build and painting to go with it. I too have a very understanding wife and also got some bench time in on the weekend. The only thing I might suggest would be a bit more chipping, not much just say on the rear access hatches. Maybe a bit of worn off paint on the vertical locking mech. This would slide through the horizontal parts, wearing off the paint. Just my two cents.

Either way, I love how it looks, especially the ammo racks and ammo.

Looking forward to the next update.

 

Rob

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:48 PM

Thanks Rob! Good point about the rear hatches, will give them a little bit more attention in the final treatment.

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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:58 PM

 Its those little extras like drilling out the mag wells on the Mp40's that help turn a great build into an excellent one.

  The open ammo locker and radio set really top off that interior Bill.   WunderbarBow Down!

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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