fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:33 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw

QUOTE: Originally posted by fightnjoe

as far as the zimmerit i think i am going to give it a shot. i think using squadron green and a comb, the ones that come from like barbie doll kits, would work. i am going to wait however until i get the right paints to begin this beast.

joe

Be careful with this, Joe. I'm afraid the putty will stick to the plastic comb and get all gummed up. I think you'd wind up pulling all the putty off in big troughs.

Make sure when you put the putty on to keep it really thin (in depth, not consistency). Sometimes I would scrap a little off my "pallet" onto my scribe tool and trowel it on with that, holding the tool at a shallow angle so that the putty would get applied and scribed at the same time. Then I'd go back and put the verticle marks in the putty.

Good luck.

thanks for the heads up and the advice bill. greatly appreciated.

joe

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wipw

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Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:37 PM

Ron, sounds interesting. Why don't you drop me an e-mail and we'll discuss it. I've always liked the 24. I wish Accurate Minatures would come out with a nice one!

Also, I posted in the A/C forum, but forgot to here. Your Spits and the Jug look terrific. Great work on the camo. Thanks for sharing your pics.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:05 PM

hahah Ausf. You do a 1:48 Monogram B-29 Superfort in NMF and I'll do zimmerit.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:06 PM

Ooo whats the gray called??

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lizardqing

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Posted by lizardqing on Friday, June 25, 2004 3:42 PM

Ok guys, here is the first shot at a plane in 20 years or so when I was about 8 or 9. You can see where the crappy decals got the best of me and I have to repaint. Other than that just a quick 2 hours or so invested in it so I can get it hung up on my boy's ceiling so they will be happy. I'll throw it over in the ac forum as well just to get some tips on some things I might be able to do on the Dauntless.

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wipw

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Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 3:58 PM

Boy, Chris. Not your best effort! LOL But isn't it great to see how much you've grown in the hobby?? (Both in skills and in choice of subject!! LOL) Okay, okay, by now I'm sure you know I have an affinity for wingy thingies that ALMOST meets the one I have for Armor. I've certainly got a lot more A/C than I do tred kits! (probably over 3 times as many, in fact!) I think you ought to post your pics without the history and see what comments you come up with! lol

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wipw

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Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 4:02 PM

QUOTE: thanks for the heads up and the advice bill. greatly appreciated.

Glad to help, Joe. The experts at this stuff (of which I am most certainly NOT one) use either metal or resin for etching (maybe embossing is more accurate) the pattern. I've seen where for Milliput and ApoxiSculpt they shaved down a piece of left over resin cast plug to the size needed, chucked in a handle of some sort, and used that (dampened in water) to press the pattern in. And very effectively, too!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 5:18 PM

Is that monograms 109 Chris? You may at least treat it to a good AA lickin when its all said and done. Tongue [:P]

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tigerman

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, June 25, 2004 5:35 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw
Ohhhh, I got prop envy!! lol

ROTFLMAO. Whew, more than I needed to know. Big Smile [:D]

You guys are really making me want to try something I truely suck at. Okay, I may give my KI-84 a shot. After reading all the horror stories about NMF, I may just go with the green and grey though. Yup, whimped out. Disapprove [V]

Eric

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wipw

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Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 5:44 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw
Ohhhh, I got prop envy!! lol

ROTFLMAO. Whew, more than I needed to know. You guys are really making me want to try something I truely suck at. Okay, I may give my KI-84 a shot. After reading all the horror stories about NMF, I may just go with the green and grey though. Yup, whimped out.

Hey, if you can't stand the water, Eric, get out of the prop build!

LOLOLOL

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lizardqing

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Posted by lizardqing on Friday, June 25, 2004 5:46 PM

To bad I did'nt see you post before I out it up Bill, would love to have seen the comments. Of coarse it seems they being polite by not really saying to much about it anyway. Big Smile [:D]

Had it not been for my boys , I would have done a totally slop job on it , big globs of glue runnin down it, paint it OD and such and posted that for them to comment on.

Yes, it is the Monogram kit with a total of about 15 parts I think it was.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 6:11 PM

Got that one built some where my self.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 10:01 PM

Alright, alright, alright........I give. For the love of Pete, what's NMF?
I mean, it's aluminum right, New Metal Finish? What? What?
Not My Fault?
Nothing Much Flying?
New Mexican Fajitas?

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lizardqing

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Posted by lizardqing on Friday, June 25, 2004 10:43 PM

From hearing Joe talk so loveingly about it, I think it stands for Natural Metal Finish. But thats just my assumption.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 11:36 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw

QUOTE: Originally posted by fightnjoe

as far as the zimmerit i think i am going to give it a shot. i think using squadron green and a comb, the ones that come from like barbie doll kits, would work. i am going to wait however until i get the right paints to begin this beast.

joe

Be careful with this, Joe. I'm afraid the putty will stick to the plastic comb and get all gummed up. I think you'd wind up pulling all the putty off in big troughs.

Make sure when you put the putty on to keep it really thin (in depth, not consistency). Sometimes I would scrap a little off my "pallet" onto my scribe tool and trowel it on with that, holding the tool at a shallow angle so that the putty would get applied and scribed at the same time. Then I'd go back and put the verticle marks in the putty.

Good luck.

Joe, I have used a razor saw with squadron green before, with nice results (on an old model). You can clean it up with acetone afterwards. (The saw, not the model!) If you have an old blade, you can break it up into different size bits for different areas. As you know, squadron green can be softened with liquid cement, too. I personally don't even spread it first; I just run a line of it, and spread /saw at the same time. I am hopefully picking up the same King Tiger as yours tomorrow, Joe, so I might have a nice long peek at it, and see if there is anything I can find to help us both out. I was going to try milliput on this one, but hadn't really made my mind up. I also wanted to get Tamiya's Zimm combs, but haven't found them over here yet. I have a couple of interesting Zimm articles about too. Let me know if I can help in any way, since I will be able to look at the same kit and at least give you another opinion.

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Alright, alright, alright........I give. For the love of Pete, what's NMF?
I mean, it's aluminum right, New Metal Finish? What? What?
Not My Fault?
Nothing Much Flying?
New Mexican Fajitas?

Yum. Mexican for me tonight.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:52 AM

Ok all you treadies..i got mine going...lets see some planes...unless ya are chicken!!!

"Victory roll with a pint...ahhh the good life"

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, June 26, 2004 3:43 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by ausf

Alright, alright, alright........I give. For the love of Pete, what's NMF?
I mean, it's aluminum right, New Metal Finish? What? What?
Not My Fault?
Nothing Much Flying?
New Mexican Fajitas?

alright i will spell it out. nmf = natural metal finish. this can be done in many ways. the paint method, two types generally work. something like alcad which doesnt really need to be buffed and a buffable metalizer. the second is metal foil attached to the plane, i chose this method and am using tinfoil glued to the a/c. it is a timeconsuming method but the results are incredible.

matt thanks. i am still going to order the eduards as a backup but i am going to try to get into this with both feet. i wont be starting this one for about a month so i will have some time to practice. i think i have an old auto body from a kit long since trashed. i think the razor saw would work i have some old saw blades that might be a suitable tool. and it will be good to get advice from someone looking at the same kit.

joe

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Posted by Abastyr on Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:01 AM

If us Armor guys need any help, here's a great link (not sure if it was posted within the last 15 pages) for help. I wouldn't be suprised if Swanny isn't browsing this build.

http://swannysmodels.com/

Awesome Kit reviews, but goto the Tools and Tips Page..

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lizardqing

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Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:09 AM

Been to Swanny's site a few times. have even used some of his tips and incorparated them into armor builds.

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Awasoda

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Posted by Awasoda on Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:24 PM

I'M BACK OH YES IM BACK

WOw you guys realy did a lot of writing when i was gone, could some one sum me up on what happend thanks a lot.

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wipw

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Posted by wipw on Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:35 PM

Well, some of the plane dudes have started and almost finished. One or two of the armor dudes have posted a plane or two, but I'm not sure if they were supposed to count towards the build or not. (Mine wasn't). I thought we weren't starting until sometime in July, still to be determined. Other than that, mostly a lot of trash talking, advice on kits and zimmeriting, and admission from some of the wingy thingy guys that armor might not be too bad to build.

I miss much, guys??

lol

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, June 26, 2004 2:38 PM

no not much. bill i think thats a pretty good summary.

joe

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:00 PM

Ya didn't mention the flying circus is trying to talk me into a NMF on a P-51! That would be as ridiculous as trying something like Zimmerit on your first Armor build. Oh, wait a minute....

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:20 AM

Hey now!!!!!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:23 AM

I was laughing so hard my wife had to see what was going on.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:34 AM

Hey now!! I zimmed on my second.Close enuff. Tongue [:P]

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:25 AM

would you be thinking of me.

too funny. think i woke everyone up when i started laughing at it.

joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:12 AM

Geez! Im away from the forum for a couple of days and this thread goes crazy. 3 more pages and some poeple have already started.

Any news on a starting date ?? I thought it was late July or something.

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:41 AM

see what you miss when you go away for a while.

joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:10 PM

Hmmm Indy tracks....paint em before I put em together?? The instructions say to put em together then let em sit for like half an hour the put them on the tank. The way I paint it would take much long then that so painting first then putting them together then touching up a good method???
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