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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:51 PM
I.....can't......hear......you.........because......it ......seems.......to.........be.......a........little.......windy.......and.......I.....can't.....get.....off......the....gr........ound.......Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:53 PM
Originally posted by woodbeck3

Ausf, I bet if I opened your closet I'd find a leather bomber jacket and a silk scarf. All my fly brothers, greet Ausf as he is about to join us in the wild blue yonder Wink [;)]. Once you build a 109 thats it, it's all over bro, no turning back, You'll never smell...tank gas...again. you'll be dreaming of snap rolls at 15,000 ft. drinks with Galland and eye balling that next generation 190 Dora sitting out there on the strip calling you... "Ausf, Ausf" Can you hear her??? Listen harder.Approve [^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:13 PM
ROFL Clown [:o)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 AM
I think I'll have to bail on this GB. I just built my revell germany 1:72 red barron fokker triplane and that was the last of my unbuilt plane models. I've got a lot on my plate right now, I think I'll have to bail, but I might try to come back in later... Sorry, good luck everyone!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:32 AM
Joe from what I see it is a great kit in box. I have both tamiyas and dragons. You get more bang fo ryour buck with the dragon king tiger, the tamiya fits together great.
I havent started on dragons yet so cant say much. Also the dragon has PE grills where the tamiya you need to buy them seperate adding 10$ to the total.
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Posted by Awood23 on Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:15 PM
I originally posted this in the aircraft forum but as Jeeves was nice enough to point out this is where Id get the help...

" ok Jeeves... was hoping you could point me in the direction of someone that can give me some advice. I just bought a Bradley M3 for this build but after looking at it I think I bought an RC Model???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5903536190&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
the reason I ask is because it mentions "2 channel RE-14 Motor'??
did I just bite off more than I can chew? get ripped off?
If you know someone that can give me some advice about this Id be grateful

I decided to go with this and get in the "full spirit" of the build rather than play in the grey area of wheeled vehicles"
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, June 21, 2004 12:50 AM
Frosty:

Hmmmm...I am not good at A/C but I'll give it a try. Masking tape here I come. He-he-he.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 21, 2004 1:12 AM
If you con still get it testers makes a produce called para-film. awesome for canopies. I got mine years ago when I was into planes.Ashamed [*^_^*]
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, June 21, 2004 2:23 AM
Thundergod:

Well, I'll stick with masking tape. Been using it when I was into 1/72 A/C. At least if I fail I can always blame it on the masking tape. He-he-he.

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Posted by wipw on Monday, June 21, 2004 10:36 AM
Sorry, Adian, I looked but couldn't find anything about this model. The e-bay pics make it look like a nice model, though. Good luck with it.
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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, June 21, 2004 10:05 PM
well, i am not sure what i have gotten myself into now. the king tiger arrived today. wow, the beast is huge. my jaw dropped when it when i took it out of the shipping box. wow. i am just overwhelmed by the size. and heavy too. but, as i swallow loudly, onward. when do we start again????

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:22 AM
Joe, my mind is weak. Which King are you doing? One of the Tamiya's or one of the Dragon's??
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fightnjoe

well, i am not sure what i have gotten myself into now. the king tiger arrived today. wow, the beast is huge. my jaw dropped when it when i took it out of the shipping box. wow. i am just overwhelmed by the size. and heavy too. but, as i swallow loudly, onward. when do we start again????

joe


Hehehe. Well good luck Joe. Have fun with them indies. I think it has started already.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw

Joe, my mind is weak. Which King are you doing? One of the Tamiya's or one of the Dragon's??


it is dml/dragon. and the beast is huge. it is the third largest kit box i have seen, or should i say have had in my hands.

ummmmmmmmm thanks, i think, tigerman. i...................... ummmmmm.................dont know where to start. i guess i had better look at the instructions.

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:36 PM
okay, Joe, that's half the battle!!

Which King is it? The Henchel (production) or the Porsche Turret?
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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:13 PM
tis the porsche turrent.

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:51 PM
I've got that one too, Joe. It's a cool kit. You're biggest challenge will probably be the zimmerit, as I understand all the Porsche Kings had zimm on them.

I'm looking forward to hearing about your build once this thing gets started (I still don't know when we're shooting for!).
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw
[br (I still don't know when we're shooting for!).


We're shooting for planes, when? I don't know...
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ausf

QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw
[br (I still don't know when we're shooting for!).


We're shooting for planes, when? I don't know...


Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D] Did we hit any yet.

Awasoda is away this week, so I guess we have to wait for a starting date. July / August is the last I heard
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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 3:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by monrad

QUOTE: Originally posted by ausf

QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw

(I still don't know when we're shooting for!).


We're shooting for planes, when? I don't know...


Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D] Did we hit any yet.

Awasoda is away this week, so I guess we have to wait for a starting date. July / August is the last I heard


About half of my stack of wingy thingies fell over while I was a home for lunch. Does that count as a hit?? LOL
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:07 PM
Good luck on that kit, Joe. Great kit, I heard. Don't worry those indies just look intimidating but once you get two or three together...it will be a walk in the park.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:30 PM
thanks dwight. the kit is very intimidating. havent opened the wrap yet.

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:19 PM
Go ahead, open it up...you'll be glad you did!! Until you see the indy links, that is!! lol
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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:41 PM
ok. i opened it. took me about thirty minutes to get my breathing to calm down. man there is a lot of parts for this bad boy. wow. now i have to figure out a decent way to do zimmerite. and a relatively painless way.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:31 AM
Tamiya putty works great. there is also a zim kit from cavalie rthat is thin sheets of resin.Some dont like it I found it to work farely well. Here is a pic.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:31 AM
ron thanks for the suggestion. i dont have the tamiya putty only squadron green. i remember reading that a light coat of plastic glue can be used to soften the plastic enough to work the plastic.

gotta find that issue of fsm.

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Posted by wipw on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:36 AM
Joe;

Here's another possibility, if you want to drop another $30 on the Tiger.

Atak Model has a full resin zimm kit out for it. Check Great Models and search for atk35025. It looks pretty inclusive! I might go that route. I'm not sure yet.

Softening the plastic with liquid cement and impressing the zimm pattern into it is a very daunting task, in 1/35, IMO. Squadron green putty can be used to do zimm, it just dries fast so you have to do small areas. Tamiya Polyester Putty gives you a little more work time. Other possibilities areMilliput (there's a thread pointing to an article on doing it floating around here somewhere), Apoxie Sculpt (Aves), and Zimm it Rite (RJ Products). Aves usually has an advert in FSM, if you want to look them up.

One thing about this kit that's kind of weird, there's a big insert that goes on the left side of the turret, right under the commanders cupola. It has a pistol port molded on it, I believe, so is probably so they can do other versions without it. (It would have been better to just mold the port as a separate part, I think.) Anyway, it probably won't be a big deal since that area will/should be zimmed over anyway.

I got out just about every plane in my stash I could lay my hands on yesterday. I went over all the instructions. I have so many low end kits with no cockpit detail (or even no cockpit at all), I can't believe it. I guess I'll do on of the Accurate Miniatures or Hasagewa kits I have. At least they have decent to great detail! But still, I'm not doing an NMF!
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:02 AM
Joe, Tamiya makes these neat little zimmerit tools, about $8-9.

Sorry, I wasn't aware of the start date, just assumed it did. We should post build dates in the subject line, so people will know without inquiring all the time.

Best advice on the tracks is to take your time. I admit they scared me to death, but found them to be easy. Some people like to use a homemade jig to align them. I just make about 15-20 link sections them wrap them around the drive sprocket and head towards the idler and work my way back to the drive sprocket. Seems to work well. I prefer Testors liquid cement to allow time to set and still be flexible.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:01 PM
ron and eric thanks. great suggestions.

ron the problem im running into is i have already blown my alotted money for this month and the paint order i have for next month blows it. i think i may end up using the squadron putty and doing small areas. it should work ok, just timeconsuming. wait i think i have something time consuming now that i am working on.

eric thanks for the tips. i will take your advice on the links. slow and steady.

joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:14 PM
Yes indeed the testors liquid cement is great it gives more flex time. I know the feeling Joe.Mine is all used up as well.I found squadron putty hard touse, I hope you have better luck.
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