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                        Plane Build

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                        wipw
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 4:02 PM
                        QUOTE: thanks for the heads up and the advice bill. greatly appreciated.



                        Glad to help, Joe. The experts at this stuff (of which I am most certainly NOT one) use either metal or resin for etching (maybe embossing is more accurate) the pattern. I've seen where for Milliput and ApoxiSculpt they shaved down a piece of left over resin cast plug to the size needed, chucked in a handle of some sort, and used that (dampened in water) to press the pattern in. And very effectively, too!
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        wipw
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 3:58 PM
                        Boy, Chris. Not your best effort! LOL But isn't it great to see how much you've grown in the hobby?? (Both in skills and in choice of subject!! LOL) Okay, okay, by now I'm sure you know I have an affinity for wingy thingies that ALMOST meets the one I have for Armor. I've certainly got a lot more A/C than I do tred kits! (probably over 3 times as many, in fact!) I think you ought to post your pics without the history and see what comments you come up with! lol
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Friday, June 25, 2004 3:42 PM
                        Ok guys, here is the first shot at a plane in 20 years or so when I was about 8 or 9. You can see where the crappy decals got the best of me and I have to repaint. Other than that just a quick 2 hours or so invested in it so I can get it hung up on my boy's ceiling so they will be happy. I'll throw it over in the ac forum as well just to get some tips on some things I might be able to do on the Dauntless.



                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:06 PM
                        Ooo whats the gray called??
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:05 PM
                        Big Smile [:D] hahah Ausf. You do a 1:48 Monogram B-29 Superfort in NMF and I'll do zimmerit.
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                        wipw
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                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:37 PM
                        Ron, sounds interesting. Why don't you drop me an e-mail and we'll discuss it. I've always liked the 24. I wish Accurate Minatures would come out with a nice one!

                        Also, I posted in the A/C forum, but forgot to here. Your Spits and the Jug look terrific. Great work on the camo. Thanks for sharing your pics.
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                        fightnjoe
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                        Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:33 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by fightnjoe

                        as far as the zimmerit i think i am going to give it a shot. i think using squadron green and a comb, the ones that come from like barbie doll kits, would work. i am going to wait however until i get the right paints to begin this beast.

                        joe


                        Be careful with this, Joe. I'm afraid the putty will stick to the plastic comb and get all gummed up. I think you'd wind up pulling all the putty off in big troughs.

                        Make sure when you put the putty on to keep it really thin (in depth, not consistency). Sometimes I would scrap a little off my "pallet" onto my scribe tool and trowel it on with that, holding the tool at a shallow angle so that the putty would get applied and scribed at the same time. Then I'd go back and put the verticle marks in the putty.

                        Good luck.


                        thanks for the heads up and the advice bill. greatly appreciated.

                        joe

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                        Abastyr
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                          December 2002
                        Posted by Abastyr on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:27 PM
                        QUOTE: What kit is it? 24's seem to be hard to come by, at the moment! I think I've got an old Airfix or MPC in a box in the garage!


                        I've got both the Monogram Kits.. D and G I think...don't know my Planes..ones Silver and ones Green...

                        I'm actually kind of excited about this...will test my skills..
                        My Model Page http://www.andysmodels.com
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:26 PM
                        Hey Bill I got a liberator half built if you want it. Its the pro modeler,around 7 years old. though the kit is older I think.It was to be the Pink B$#ch,but lost interst forlack of room.
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                        wipw
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:14 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by fightnjoe

                        as far as the zimmerit i think i am going to give it a shot. i think using squadron green and a comb, the ones that come from like barbie doll kits, would work. i am going to wait however until i get the right paints to begin this beast.

                        joe


                        Be careful with this, Joe. I'm afraid the putty will stick to the plastic comb and get all gummed up. I think you'd wind up pulling all the putty off in big troughs.

                        Make sure when you put the putty on to keep it really thin (in depth, not consistency). Sometimes I would scrap a little off my "pallet" onto my scribe tool and trowel it on with that, holding the tool at a shallow angle so that the putty would get applied and scribed at the same time. Then I'd go back and put the verticle marks in the putty.

                        Good luck.
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        wipw
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Friday, June 25, 2004 12:09 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Abastyr

                        Count me in. Think I'll build that B-24 that's been collecting Dust in my basement. Great Idea, wish I'd started reading this post earlier..

                        Ohhhh, I got prop envy!! lol

                        What kit is it? 24's seem to be hard to come by, at the moment! I think I've got an old Airfix or MPC in a box in the garage!
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        pingtang
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                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Friday, June 25, 2004 8:48 AM
                        Well, it looks like I will have to join the fun. I've always wanted to build a tank. I started building one once but got discouraged when my brother sat on it and completely desytroyed it.Grumpy [|(]Censored [censored]Sad [:(] So its been all wingy things since then.

                        Don't know what I'll build, but I'll have a look at some kits and see what looks interesting and isn't to expensive. I will probably require lots of help from the folks in armor land.

                        I am ready for the embarassment of ruining a kit. It won't be the first time either.Sigh [sigh]

                        I'll be back with some details of what I'm building later.

                        -Daniel
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                        Abastyr
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                        Posted by Abastyr on Friday, June 25, 2004 8:29 AM
                        Count me in. Think I'll build that B-24 that's been collecting Dust in my basement. Great Idea, wish I'd started reading this post earlier..
                        My Model Page http://www.andysmodels.com
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 7:18 AM
                        Woodbeck,
                        If you're set on the grey, you have to go with an early production Tiger I. They started sending them out of the factory in Dunkelgelb (that's dark yellow to a flyboy) soon after and that was the base for all the camo patterns.
                        You'll find plenty of early kits, Tamiya makes a real nice one. You also escape the Zimmerit dilemma with an early.
                        Chicken.Mischief [:-,]
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                        fightnjoe
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                          September 2011
                        Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:33 AM
                        well after reading more on applying zimmerit i am going to have a backup in place. i am going to order the eduards zimmerit for this kit.

                        joe

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 25, 2004 2:13 AM
                        Ooo that reminds me...before I get my tiger, are the different tiger, during different years in different colors. I seen those Tigers that are in thet gray color...looks sweet. What would be a good guilde line for the different tigers, in different years to there paint and camo colors.

                        Watch out the fly boys and gals are coming !!!!
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                        fightnjoe
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                          September 2011
                        Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:50 PM
                        i took a very good look at the king tiger last night, took it to work, very nice kit. although there is no interior to speak of. i guess that means i have it closed. as far as the zimmerit i think i am going to give it a shot. i think using squadron green and a comb, the ones that come from like barbie doll kits, would work. i am going to wait however until i get the right paints to begin this beast.

                        joe

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:45 PM
                        Nice T-bolt...did you hear all the tiger guys shudder??? I did. I am starting tomorrow on my 1:35 Acadamy Tiger something or another...actually buying tomorrow so I'll tell ya all then what I got.
                        I grabbed a buncha those tiger links posted somewhere else here.

                        ok I gotta go before something crazy like me building tanks regularly happens.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:21 PM
                        Hehehehehe Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] Took me a minute to figure that out TM.

                        OOOOOOOOps forgot to thank you.Clown [:o)]
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                        tigerman
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:17 PM
                        Liking that T-Bolt Thundergod. Now how appropriate is that a build for you? Big Smile [:D]

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        lizardqing
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:36 PM
                        Looks pretty good Bill. I'll toss mine up of the 109 as soon as I repaint the wings, don't want to look like a complete amature you know.Big Smile [:D]
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:24 PM
                        Ok here is the twins in progress





                        and the oddball for Bill.





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                        wipw
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:32 PM
                        Some of the A/C guys have already started. In fact, they look well along the way on their armor! I think everyone got confused on the start date!! lol

                        Chris, I survived. Go ahead and post over there. You might even find a few people you recognize!!
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                        lizardqing
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
                        Posted by lizardqing on Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:26 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw

                        I just posted the pics of my P-51 in the AC forum. Man, did I feel like a fish out of water. I'm really amazed at how uncomforatable I felt. Call for the white coat dudes!! I've lost it!


                        I'll wait to see the outcome of your visit before I post my Me109 if I do, I'll let you be the guinie pig. Big Smile [:D]

                        July sounds good to me. Gives me time to start on my scratch built fire truck and finish the 113 , if Academy would just send me those replacement tracks.
                        Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop
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                        fightnjoe
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                        Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:17 PM
                        bill you did well. quiet didnt look any of the natives in the eye and made no rapid movements.

                        really the plane looks great. i think you have found another subject that you do well. that is if you can bring yourself to take the vacation from the darkside.

                        joe

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                        wipw
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:54 AM
                        No, dang it, I didn't. Guess I didn't read that part of the toursit brochure! I'll need to go appologize. Hmmm, maybe they'd take the goat entrails I'd intended to used as the sacrifice to the wingy thingy modeling god at the start of the cross over build!
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:10 AM
                        Bill,
                        I admire your courage in first contact with the aircraft 'natives'. They seem friendly. Did you offer them beads or something to gain trust?
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:37 AM
                        It aint that bad sheesh.
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                        wipw
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                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:07 AM
                        I just posted the pics of my P-51 in the AC forum. Man, did I feel like a fish out of water. I'm really amazed at how uncomforatable I felt. Call for the white coat dudes!! I've lost it!
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                        wipw
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                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:35 PM
                        Chris, Nope, hasn't started yet. Still waitin' for sometime in July, I think. We're all just gettin' ready, Pardner!

                        Joe, I took a couple of pics of my 51. I will go post them in the Wingy Thingy forum. (I'd post them here, but I might get sanctioned from the dark side!!) LOL
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