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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 4, 2005 6:57 PM
The "Workshop" idea dounds great, Woody. It would take the pressure off all of us to run against a deadline and let people join as they want to.
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Posted by maxx1969 on Thursday, August 4, 2005 12:39 AM
Don't fret about this Woody. You've got a lot to deal with and I'm sorry to hear about your Mother in law. She's alright I hope. And of course babies take priorityBig Smile [:D]

Hey with all the cool subjects in the Museum it would make for a great workshop. I could actualy finish the TaurusTongue [:P]
~Matt T Meyer
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, August 4, 2005 12:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Masao
Jimmy andKevlar: Group builds take place whenever anyone wants to start one. This one was officially over in June but still seems to be limping along.

Maybe we could change from a GB to a workshop. "The Starfleet Museum Modeling Workshop"? Anyone could jump in with a project anytime they want.Big Smile [:D] Seriously I'm sorry for my apparent lack of productivity. I have been working long hours at work, trying to spruce up the nest for the baby, the passing of my Grandfather, and Monday my Mother-in-Law had a heart attack. I feel like I should be leading by example but one thing after another seems to bog down my efforts.Disapprove [V]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by SNOOPY on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 12:22 PM
I hope it isn't limping along. I keep having trouble ordering my materials. My LHS could not find some of the cat# so instead of ordering the ones he could he did not place the order or give me a call that something was a miss. He has the internet right there in the store but instead of him ordering from Plastruct, I have to do it. Some LSH just won't go that extra mile! I figure maybe by Christmas I just might actually be able to build the Daedalus Class. Has any one thought about doing the DY-100 Botany Bay? Looks pretty easy to do. Looks can be decieving.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 10:00 PM
LIMPING??!! Harumph.... I've actually done some more work on the Chowder. Warp pods are looking good, the booms and humps are waiting for some 60 second epoxy, or at least the time to go get some, and the hull parts are looing better. Well, limping might describe my progress best, but I'm not dead yet.
Andrew

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:56 PM
Captain Mills: Nice work on the Amarillo! That orbital composite is especially nice.
Sergeev: Daedalus looks good too.

Jimmy andKevlar: Group builds take place whenever anyone wants to start one. This one was officially over in June but still seems to be limping along.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 5:41 PM
You Guys do great work! Some day I may just give it a try. how often do the group builds take place?Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 4:48 PM
I've made a little more progress on my 1:1,000th scale Daedalus Class. You can see photos here: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=6756598&uid=3298033
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 1:51 PM
Hey guys,I have been reading all 23 pages of your projects and have to say you guys are really good at what you do, all your ships look great, to bad i just found all this or i would have jumped in and tried my hand at building one, any way i just wanted to say looks good, cant wait to se them all finished.

Kevin
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 1, 2005 11:54 PM
Thanks Masao!

Update Edit:
The Amarillo is finished! Here are the photos:
http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_027
http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_029
http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_031
http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/stockholm01
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:35 PM
I usually designed a emblem for the class development project and separate emblems for each of the ships. The shark was only on Tannhäuser's individual ship patch, so it would appear only on Tannhäuser.

That knight on the Hastings emblem was taken from the Bayeux tapestry. For a simple decal for Hastings, I think that knight would work (I can send you a larger version). But if you want to use something else, I suggest looking a bit into the heraldry of the participants in the Battle of Hastings, particularly William the Conqueror (aka, William of Normandy, William I). This Wiki page has the arms of the House of Normandy or William I (I'm not sure which). It looks nice, I think. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Norman_Arms.png

The fleur-de-lis (lily) is a traditional French symbol, so I'd avoid that. The knight you show is too modern, since Hasting was fought in the mid 11th century.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:04 AM
Actually, the lathe works great. My only beef with it is that it maxes out at 7" and is only 1" from the base. For instance, i was going to lathe the gridlines onto the sphere, but the sphere is 1" radius (2" diameter), and it wont spin since it sits on the lathe base. It works wonders when turning butyrate and styrene, but sucks when turning acrylic. The acrylic is too tough and when I apply any pressure with the carving knife, the acrylic stops turning and the lathe drills a small hole into each side Smile [:)].

Otherwise, thanks for the complements! I was planning on posting photos tonight, but the disk I saved the images on is giving me a "Disk in drive A not formatted" error. I'll email myself the images and try and post them tomorrow evening.

One question for Masao - on the Tanhauser class, there is a hammerhead shark on the front end. Is that something that would appear on each ship, each being different according to its name? (I noticed the patch design on the Vicksburg as well...) If so, I was going to name my Tanhauser class the UES Hastings, CHM-58, and I see the badge has a Knight on it. What would you recommend as a simple decal symbol to put on there? Do you have any ideas? I make my own decals in most cases, so that's why I'm asking... Thanks!

Tanhauser Images for reference:
http://www.starfleet-museum.org/tannhaeuser.htm
http://www.starfleet-museum.org/tannhaeuser-logo.gif
http://www.starfleet-museum.org/tannhaeuser.jpg
http://www.starfleet-museum.org/vicksburg-cgi.jpg
http://www.starfleet-museum.org/hastings-patch.gif

I was thinking of using one of these...




Also...
here are the photos I tried to upload yesterday... see them here:
http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums?page=11
on the bottom of the page... She's ready for primer, paint and decals!
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Posted by Woody on Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:31 PM
Looks really good to me. How do you like that lathe?

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by maxx1969 on Friday, July 29, 2005 1:51 AM
Very nice work so far Captain. I look forward to seeing that BoP when your done. It has always been one of my favorites.
~Matt T Meyer
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 12:53 AM
Again, sorry for the double post, but I seem to be the only one still posting on this "Mostly dead" thread. If it were all dead, there'd be only one thing we could do. Go through its pockets and look for loose change... Wink [;)]

Anyway... the Amarillo is looking sharp, the Romulan BoP is nice yet needing work, the Daedalus will be finished next week, the Wasp and Tanhauser (yes, I've decided to build a tanhauser...) will get started next week.

Here are some links to pics of the Amarillo and Rommie:

1:1000x3: http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_020
Amarillo1: http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_022
Amarillo2: http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_023
Rommie: http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_024
Rommie: http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_025
Rommie: http://www.teachanddiscover.net/gallery/User-Albums/Picture_026

The first pic, the trio, includes the Rommie, Amarillo, and a Thru-Deck I kitbashed with the PL TOS E for size and scale. I can include a parts list from Plastruct if anyone wants one...

Let me know whatchya'll think!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:37 PM
yes, i found them yesterday after I read your message. They are identical to your schema drawings. Thanks for your help anyway!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:33 PM
They're here, on the bottom of the page: http://www.culttvman.com/acstartrek.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:34 PM
Hmmm... a little too late now, but it's no big deal. I like the look of it anyway. I plan to personalize it anyway. I'm hoping to paint it pale green and get some of JBOT's green decals for it. I also want to do a subtle "aztecing" on it. Let me know if this sunds ok to y'all. I'll check out the Culttvman website tonight and see if I can find those schematics... Keep up the awesome work Masao! Thanks...
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:41 PM
Thanks, Cap'n Mills! That was my first and so far only offiical, paying Trek job. It was a lot of fun. I haven't received my copy of the book yet, unfortunately.

By the way, don't base your BOP on the schematics at the museum. They're a bit wonky, especially the angle of the nacelles, which I couldn't figure out at the time. I think I based them on the Agatha Chamberlain schematics from Cult TV Man, so you should go back to them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:40 PM
Hi all, sorry to bump an old dying forum thread ( Smile [:)] ), but in between ships I've been building, I've decided to build my very own from-scratch 1:1000 scale Romulan Bird of Prey, from TOS, also in Masao's Museum, but only briefly. The Daedalus and Amarillo are coming along nicely, and the Wasp won't be started until after I finish these three.

Pictures will be posted soon!

Also, I wanted to mention, I picked up a book from the Bookstore yesterday and found some interesting material on the cover and tucked inside. The book is titled "Star Trek: Vanguard" and is a TOS era book. On the cover, it shows the Vanguard Space Station with the Enterprise approaching. Docked at the station are two vessels, a DY-100 and an NX-Type starship. Tucked inside the book is a neat set of diagrams of the Vanguard Station, all credited to Masao himself. So, all in all, I wanted to give kudos to Masao for getting in a book! (I thought it was kool when i noticed the credits on the drawing.) I also thought it neat & interesting that an NX type ship would be docked there... Haven't begun reading it yet, but I will start this week....

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:36 PM
Hey, guys! I was hoping to have a page at the museum with all the finished models, but since we only have a few done I think I'd like to post what's done and the WIPs. Please give me permission to post the pictures at the site and tell me how you'd like to be credited (your real name or screen name) and where you'd like the link to go (email or webpage or both). Also, tell me which ship you've built. Thanks.
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:10 PM
I use M.E.K. which I purchase at Home Depot. A quart is about $4 and makes a great liquid cement as well. Here is a link to my thread about my homebrew putty.
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?page=1&TOPIC_ID=21787

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by SNOOPY on Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:16 PM
Okay, I am ready to start my build now. I am always the last one to start anything. I will have all my materials by the end of next week. "Better Late Than Never"!

Woody, it the last group build you mentioned your slurry mix. Do you mix spare sprue with lacquer thinner, acetone, or turpentine? I cannot remember.

Six months to get materials, sorry!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 9:19 PM
Thanks! I was spending most of my time in motel rooms, and I could get a lot of construction work done in them with a shoebox full of tools and supplies. It just took some planning ahead to make sure I packed everything I'd need. Working on a model sure beats watching "Hitler's Pastry Chef" or some other cable TV pap for the umpteenth time.
Andrew
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Posted by Woody on Monday, July 4, 2005 8:14 PM
Andrew, I really like what you have done. You made your hull in a hotel room? Wow

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 4, 2005 7:43 PM
Capt. Mills: I'm sorry to be giving you such a hard time with my design! I look forward to seeing whatever you come up with.

What I've done to make a tapering tank gun barrels is to use telescoping section of brass smoothed over with putty and sanded with a big flat sanding block. Would it be possible to stack circular blocks (of wood or plastic) along a central core, then smooth them over and sand to shape?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 2, 2005 5:55 PM
I thought about that too, but I don't have access to a drill press, and my hand drill oesn't open that far.

I thought about this! My mini lathe isn't strong enough for me to lathe acrylic rod that I WAS using, but it is strong enough for me to lathe the butyrate tubing I used for the Amarillo's engines. I could buy different sizes of tubing, and cement them inside each other until I get the right length and decrease. I've already lathed the engines for the Amarillo with the butyrate tubing, and It worked great. So, we'll have an Amarillo, Kretchet, Daedalus, and a Wasp here in about a month, if you folks don't mind waiting that long for me to finish the projects...
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Posted by SNOOPY on Saturday, July 2, 2005 10:59 AM
Captain_Mills - I just had a thought about that reducer part at the Secondary Hull (the long larger diameter middle section). How about this, take a wood dowel the size of the larger diameter needed and then in a hand drill or drill press chuck it up and use sand paper or sanding block to sand the proper angle. If it does not fit in a drill press chuck, then use a belt sander or if someone you know has a bench grinder. Then after you have the size make a mold and cast a resin part from it. I think that is one procedure I will use for it. Just tossing out ideas since I am not at the building stage yet, hopefully soon.

Scott
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 1, 2005 9:32 PM
The main hull was made from a vaguely egg-shaped pencil sharpener from the dollar store. Go back a few pictures to see one unmolested. I cut it in half and stretched it about a quarter inch by sandwiching a PVC pipe coupler between the two halves. Once that was epoxied in place, I built up the rest of the gap with styrene strip, then the putty work began. It was all done in a motel room, so lathe was involved! The key was alternating colors of putty and primer between sandings to see where the low and high spots were. For example, slather on some Acryl Green and sand. Then some grey primer, and sand again. Anything that is still grey is a low spot. Fill these with red putty, sand, and prime with white. Red and green spots are too high, white and grey are too low. Repeat this a bunch of times, and you WILL have a nice smooth surface.
Andrew

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 1, 2005 8:06 PM
Nice work, Andrew!
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