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Bronco 1/350 Schnellboot (finished 4/24, photos p.3)

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Bronco 1/350 Schnellboot (finished 4/24, photos p.3)
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:00 PM

 While my workbench was down, I was doing research for another project and decided to pull that kit out of my stash. Well that kit just so happens to be a ship and I had many other ships in that stash box and during my research I went off on a side tangent last night and early this morning. Aside from "Pips" Priller's sortie over the beachhead on June 6, there was an equally daring and slightly more successful sortie by the Deutsches Kriegsmarine. The 5th Torpedo Boat Flotilla from LeHavre under the command of one Lt Cdr Heinrich Hoffman led three Schnellboote on a daring attack on the Eastern flank of the Allied naval force. The three boats launched their torpedoes at the Allied armada and succeeded in sinking HMNoS Svenner, a Norweigen destroyer. I had a 1/350 Bronco kit if a S-Boat in my stash and decided that it would be a good afternoon project today. A low parts count but many are quite small, and a lot of tiny PE as well

the kit

step 1 & 2, assemble the lower and upper hull. For building and painting purposes, I decided to leave the lower hull seperate until after the base colors are painted.

step 3 add partial weapons: depth charges, reload torpedoes, and bow 20mm gun, along with a few small other fittings

step 4, add the rudders and props to the lower hull. I accidentaly broke the center prop shaft while attempting to add the PE screw so I made a new one from thin brass rod

step 5 add PE to the midship twin 20mm and aft 37mm guns, railings around the gun mounts, and PE to the bridge area

step 6 was add the final PE to the bridge area

step 7 is adding the after PE railings, which I will leave off until after painting. Here are some close up photos of the PE work

Now suprisingly the kit came with no display stand of any sort, so I scratch built one

Not a bad way to spend the afternoon...

 

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Posted by allan on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:37 PM

Not a bad way, indeed.  Impressive amount of detail for such a small vessel.  I didnt know you also build ships.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:47 PM

Yes, I have done a few 1/350 ships over the past few years. Mostly subs, both modern and WWII, and a few surface vessels. I have plenty in my stash, but am still easing my way into it. The kit is pretty small, right around 100mm long. I figure it will look good by my U-boats in the display case.

 

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Posted by Hokey on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:58 PM
Please post pix of subs!
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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:51 PM

Hokey
Please post pix of subs!

Here is the thread with the U-Boats, Revell Type VII C and Hobbyboss Type VII A, both 1/350

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/145606.aspx

Dragon 1/350 Alfa Class SSN

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/135472.aspx

Bronco 1/350 Kilo Class SSK

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/134349.aspx

Dragon 1/350 USS Dallas & Airfix 1/350 HMS Torbay

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/p/135473/1394110.aspx#1394110

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:02 AM

Here is a link to the pride and joy of my ship builds Academy 1/350 Graf Spee

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/128049.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by Felix C. on Friday, March 14, 2014 7:37 PM

looks like Bronco downscalled Heller's kit because they are extremely similar including the forward well gun.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 14, 2014 7:53 PM

Who knows? In a smaller scale kit like this, there are only so many ways you can break down the parts. Yesterday I was able to get it primed with Tamiya Liquid Surface Primer. An absolute must with the paints I am using- Testors Acryl Marine Colors. Especially with PE. Today I airbrushed on a coat of Schiffsbodenfarbe on the lower hull and Schnellboot Weiss on the upper hull. I took photos as well, but did not have time to get them posted on here before work today.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by MikeyBugs95 on Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:24 AM

Nice build so far. How does this kit compare to Trumpeter's S-100?

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:32 AM

they are as far as I know the same kit. Bronco is a offshoot of Trumpeter.

MikeyBugs95

Nice build so far. How does this kit compare to Trumpeter's S-100?

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:01 PM

Actually it is Hobbyboss that is an offshoot of Trumpeter. I had never heard that about Bronco before. As far as comparison goes, I can not say, as I have not built the Trumpter Schnellboot. Looking at an online review of the Trumpeter kit, they are engineered the same,  but a tad bit different in parts. The Bronco kit has a few more parts options in both PE and plastic.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:17 PM

Trumpeter has quite a few "offshoot" brands Minihobby , Banner, Hobbyboss and Bronco. Minihobby and Banner use copies of other companies other kits and motorizes them like Minihobbys USS Tarawa kit or their USS Ticonderoga which were both Dragon offerings and motorized them. Bronco and hobbyboss kits are all original offerings but their parts layouts decal designs and instructions are typical Trumpeter layouts. And all 5 companies are located in the same city.

stikpusher

Actually it is Hobbyboss that is an offshoot of Trumpeter. I had never heard that about Bronco before. As far as comparison goes, I can not say, as I have not built the Trumpter Schnellboot. Looking at an online review of the Trumpeter kit, they are engineered the same,  but a tad bit different in parts. The Bronco kit has a few more parts options in both PE and plastic.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:25 PM

Yeah, I knew about Minihobby and Banner. Those are more cloner brands like AA. I always thought Bronco kits displayed a higher degree of finesse than Trumpeter/Hobbyboss. Those two are essentially in the same building complex. One hobbyshop owner, who was very in the know with that sort of thing, told me that the Hobbyboss brand was created to get around the importer contractual issues being had with Trumpeters US importer.

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:30 PM

She looking really nice. I hope to do as good of job with the Trumpeter version I have.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:33 PM

Thank you sir. Here is a tip- leave the weapons off until after the boat is painted, paint them seperately, then add them at final construction.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:34 PM

Thanks for the tip, I will follow your advice.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:52 PM

I look forward to seeing your built Schnellboot here.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:52 PM

That thing is so small, Raquel Welch rode it up to the guys brain...

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:10 PM

LOL! different boat ;-)

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:15 PM

well I got the after railings on... I used Gator Glue, which has minimal tack, so it was a bear to get these things to stay in place while it dries. I will go back tomorrow with a damp brush to remove the excess glue. Thats the ony real advantage to this stuff.

and a couple shots of how it will mostly look once its all done

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:31 PM
Stik The wood surfaces should be Tir firness which translates to tar varnish it is a slightly darker version of the color you used. Tir firness is used as a non-skid surface on wood decks on U-boats and S-Boats since they are exposed to water for long periods of time unlike the other ships of the Kriegsmarine. You may want to add coils of rope to the deck as those are commonly seen on deck you could probably use brown sewing thread to simulate rope.
stikpusher

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by docidle on Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:52 PM

Looking very cool Stik.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 AM

Steve, thank you, this has been a fun build.

Mike I had a nice long reply typed out covering your post and then my tablet crapped out, dumped and lost it, pissing me off once again- dont buy an ASUS, they suck. I will address your points later on when my calm returns...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Friday, March 21, 2014 8:45 PM
God I know what it is to have a computer go FUBAR the Acer computer I was using after my other computer blew up was getting the blue screen of doom which sucked. Now I have a top of the line HP Pavilion my first new computer in at least a decade.
stikpusher

Steve, thank you, this has been a fun build.

Mike I had a nice long reply typed out covering your post and then my tablet crapped out, dumped and lost it, pissing me off once again- dont buy an ASUS, they suck. I will address your points later on when my calm returns...

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by jtilley on Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:25 PM

I lost a computer that way once - an HP.  I was typing something pretty important on it late one night when it started refusing to open up files.  I did everything I could think of, and finally called Customer Support.  (This was at about 3:00 a.m.)  The nice young lady in India told me to try several things, none of which worked.  Then she tried to sell me a new computer for $800.00 over the phone.  I eventually hung up on her, and bought a Mac.

The moral to all these horror stories: backup, backup, backup.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:08 PM
The problem with the Acer was that the Navidia G-force video card was going bad and causing the Blue screen of doom problems. The only thing I backed up from the Acer was my photos which I placed on my HP Pavillion and it has a 1 Terabyte hard drive .
jtilley

I lost a computer that way once - an HP.  I was typing something pretty important on it late one night when it started refusing to open up files.  I did everything I could think of, and finally called Customer Support.  (This was at about 3:00 a.m.)  The nice young lady in India told me to try several things, none of which worked.  Then she tried to sell me a new computer for $800.00 over the phone.  I eventually hung up on her, and bought a Mac.

The moral to all these horror stories: backup, backup, backup.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:18 PM

Ok, now back to Tir Firness... (on my far more reliable desktop) I did a bunch of research on my U-boat builds a couple years ago, and I do recall reading about that stuff. Basicly it was a Black Pine Pitch IIRC, applied to the external wood surfaces on U-boats as a weatherproofing sealant. It would weather to a dark brown over time due to wear and the elements, from what I read. Now looking at the photos of S-Boats that makes sense more than Bronco's color guide. I was going more for a weathered teak look like on larger ships, I did not research the wood portions of S-Boat colors and was pretty much following the box painting guide (shame on me, they show a light gray hull color as opposed to Schnellboot Weiss), and the B&W photos show the wood ares to be very dark, almost indistiguishable from the dark gray painted portions. A few washes during the final weathering phases should get me a darker look. Thanks for the heads up.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:48 PM
No problem Stik willing to help any time. Good thing I bought both sets of Life Color Kriegsmarine paint sets since I originally got those for my 1/72 S-Boats and I do have the 1/350 Trumpeter kit now I have to get the 1/35 scale kit LOL.
stikpusher

Ok, now back to Tir Firness... (on my far more reliable desktop) I did a bunch of research on my U-boat builds a couple years ago, and I do recall reading about that stuff. Basicly it was a Black Pine Pitch IIRC, applied to the external wood surfaces on U-boats as a weatherproofing sealant. It would weather to a dark brown over time due to wear and the elements, from what I read. Now looking at the photos of S-Boats that makes sense more than Bronco's color guide. I was going more for a weathered teak look like on larger ships, I did not research the wood portions of S-Boat colors and was pretty much following the box painting guide (shame on me, they show a light gray hull color as opposed to Schnellboot Weiss), and the B&W photos show the wood ares to be very dark, almost indistiguishable from the dark gray painted portions. A few washes during the final weathering phases should get me a darker look. Thanks for the heads up.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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