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Moebius Seaview 1:350 scale WIP

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 4, 2018 4:29 PM

Hodakamax

Does this mean that the squid thing is out? Geeked

 

Too funny. No not all. I think that is a cool idea...

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Sunday, March 4, 2018 3:33 PM

Does this mean that the squid thing is out? Geeked

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 4, 2018 1:57 PM

JOE RIX

 

 
Bakster
JOE RIX oy, you weren't kidding about there being a lot of banter here. Took me 2 hrs to read through everything to find your updates just so I could take a minute to heap accolades on you. LOL!!! Hey Joe--thanks for stopping in to read all that. I apologize for the banter. In the future look for posts with model images. I almost always have pics with any pertinent updates. Then you can skip the rest. 

 

Oh, don't get me wrong, I was just being sarcastic. The banter and discussion is quite entertaining and I have no problem with it at all.

I am indeed sorry to hear that the battle with the rayon was lost. It was all looking so good. You know, trying out new and elaborate techniques in modeling is like trying to replicate that amazing cake frosting job someone did on, say, Pinterest. They make it look so easy and yet, when you try it yourself, step by meticulous step, it still comes out looking like an epic disaster. It's always worth a try though. It's just seems that some folks have a knack for a certain technique that others don't. I know that I've had my fair share of fails. I guess it simply requres the patience to practice. Hang with it as I know for certain that you will nail a process that works for you.

Yor Friend, Joe

 

Hey Joe... I meant to reply to this post when I said, Hey Joe, that is well said. Thanks Brotha! Sorry about that.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 4, 2018 1:53 PM

Hodakamax

Hey! It's not like the Seaview sank or had a runaway reactor. Seas cover the Earth, find a new one. How about a dry-dock display of fueling the reactor or removing a giant squid from an intake-----Just trying to cheer you up, I'm full of ideas! How about---

Maxie

 

Hey Max... very true. My greater irritation is that I want to be done with this project, and I hate do-overs. But no worries my friend. I have embraced the change. In fact, I am excited about the prospect. Maybe now I can try to do this the way I had hoped for from the start.

When I decided for having the bow light visibal is when I really painted myself in a corner. It limited my options. As a result, I was never really able to bring it all together to my satisfaction. Too many compromises. In all likelihood, the bow light option is nixed for the second go. Of course... none of this has anything to do with the rayon fibers. That cluster would probably have happened either way. I am not impressed with that process. This time, I will rely on paint. 

BTW... The wave layer has been pulled up. For the most part it came off in big sheets. The most time was spent cleaning up the area at the bow. Go figure. Later, I am grinding off that abysmal bow wave.

Thanks man. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 4, 2018 1:35 PM

JOE RIX

Hey Steve, I tiold you I'd get back here and check out your progress. That's some great work on the base despite the trevails. I'm watching with interest as I really want to get around to building some of my ship models and making bases for them. I hope you you manage to wrangle the rayon fiber into submission as it would certainly enhance your aready excellent work.

Boy, you weren't kidding about there being a lot of banter here. Took me 2 hrs to read through everything to find your updates just so I could take a minute to heap accolades on you. LOL!!! (all goodWink)

 

Hey Joe, that is well said. Thanks Brotha!

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    April 2016
  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Sunday, March 4, 2018 1:07 PM

Hey! It's not like the Seaview sank or had a runaway reactor. Seas cover the Earth, find a new one. How about a dry-dock display of fueling the reactor or removing a giant squid from an intake-----Just trying to cheer you up, I'm full of ideas! How about---

Maxie

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    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, March 4, 2018 11:50 AM

Bakster
JOE RIX oy, you weren't kidding about there being a lot of banter here. Took me 2 hrs to read through everything to find your updates just so I could take a minute to heap accolades on you. LOL!!! Hey Joe--thanks for stopping in to read all that. I apologize for the banter. In the future look for posts with model images. I almost always have pics with any pertinent updates. Then you can skip the rest. 

Oh, don't get me wrong, I was just being sarcastic. The banter and discussion is quite entertaining and I have no problem with it at all.

I am indeed sorry to hear that the battle with the rayon was lost. It was all looking so good. You know, trying out new and elaborate techniques in modeling is like trying to replicate that amazing cake frosting job someone did on, say, Pinterest. They make it look so easy and yet, when you try it yourself, step by meticulous step, it still comes out looking like an epic disaster. It's always worth a try though. It's just seems that some folks have a knack for a certain technique that others don't. I know that I've had my fair share of fails. I guess it simply requres the patience to practice. Hang with it as I know for certain that you will nail a process that works for you.

Yor Friend, Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 4, 2018 11:18 AM

Important Update

With much regret, I need to report the death of a dear friend. My seascape is no more. Yes--it is true. She succumbed to a fast moving and invasive parasite brought on by Rayon Cotton Ball exposure. Indeed... I fought hard to save her, but she was beyond saving. She will be missed. Taps will be played at noon, CST.

Yep. My worst fears realized. It was an untested process for me and things quickly went south. Chris Flodberg is a master at his craft. Somehow--he manages to wrangle this stuff to his will. For me--at this point--it is untenable garbage. Here is what happened:

1. I began laying down fibers by following the process of the FSM article. Immediately, I was struck by how stringy these fibers are. They are long, they separate, they stretch out, they are out of scale, and they stick to everything but where you want it to go. It was atrocious. Several hours in I improved things a little by thinning the varnish some. Now--it only took three tries per application to lay a small section into a sort of cohesive manor. I began to find some rhythm. At this point, a lot of damage has already been done. Not to be dissuaded--I pushed on.

2. As I progressed, I'd look back at what was already done. I was mystified as to why it is looking so bad. I'd go back and try to correct things, and that only exasperated the problem. I began to realize that the recommended varnish was changing the look as it dries. It looked Ok as I was setting things down. You could see nice tonal ranges between the two layers. As the varnish dries though, the tonal ranges pretty much disappear into an ugly white. The end result is ... it looked like dampened down cotton. Even with pushing the boundaries of my imagination, I could not see any sort of realism. Frankly--it looked like GARBAGE! This final injustice was the ultimate death knell. I abandoned the process. I am not saying that the varnish is the issue. It is possible it was chemically reacting to the underlying paint layers. It is hard to know.

Sigh. It took a lot of restraint to keep from taking the base and throwing it into the dumpster. A cooler head prevailed. I walked away. Over the course of hours, I began to think that well, maybe, I can pull up the waves and start over. I did a little more research and I found another process that I can try. In the end--this process has the potential to look much much nicer, and much more realistic.

Maybe this is for the best. To be honest--I was not very happy with how my seascape was looking. For one--I hated the bow wave. What an ugly thing. Secondly--I was not entirely happy with the wave formations. I pushed on in the hope that the cotton fibers would pull it altogether. Wrong! It has sent it over the cliff.

So--to all those eagerly hoping to see the end--the end is not yet. My apologies.

Lastly--I will probably not post updates on the latest process and until the end. If it works out--I will post it. Otherwise, what's the point to document another boondoggle.

Thanks folks.

Steve

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 4, 2018 10:06 AM

JOE RIX
oy, you weren't kidding about there being a lot of banter here. Took me 2 hrs to read through everything to find your updates just so I could take a minute to heap accolades on you. LOL!!!

Hey Joe--thanks for stopping in to read all that. I apologize for the banter. In the future look for posts with model images. I almost always have pics with any pertinent updates. Then you can skip the rest. Yes

JOE RIX
I hope you you manage to wrangle the rayon fiber into submission as it would certainly enhance your aready excellent work.

Sadly--I did not. More on that shortly, in another post.

Thanks, Joe.

 

 

 

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  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:00 AM

Hey Steve, I tiold you I'd get back here and check out your progress. That's some great work on the base despite the trevails. I'm watching with interest as I really want to get around to building some of my ship models and making bases for them. I hope you you manage to wrangle the rayon fiber into submission as it would certainly enhance your aready excellent work.

Boy, you weren't kidding about there being a lot of banter here. Took me 2 hrs to read through everything to find your updates just so I could take a minute to heap accolades on you. LOL!!! (all goodWink)

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, March 3, 2018 3:23 PM

Thanks for the support Steve and Greg! 

Captain-- I can use a Margarita too. This rayon fiber stuff is not easy. At least for this newbie it isn't. I am definitely struggling with it. A Chris Flodberg I am not! Sheesh. The jury is still about this.

Okay... I am going back in for more thrills and spills. It's been great knowing you all.

Angel

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, March 2, 2018 10:43 PM

Good, I can safely return to my margarita Smile

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, March 2, 2018 5:42 PM

Looking good, Steve.

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    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Friday, March 2, 2018 3:48 PM

looking forward to this steve , should be good ,

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, March 2, 2018 3:26 PM

Here is how the seascape is looking as per the steps applied in my last update. The only other difference is that I removed the protective tape on the trim. Tomorrow, I hope to begin adding the sea froth using rayon fibers. That "should" help to bring more realism to it.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, March 1, 2018 9:57 AM

Tanker - Builder

Bakster !

 Whaddya tink youse is doin ? I can't stop laughing . And that's without the Jack BlackGood , job there . I enjoyed the toon , Man !

 

TB.. You are late to the party! Better late than never, I always say. Glad you enjoyed them. Mission accomplished! Btw. There are two toon strips. Don't miss the Crane Goes Fishing Episode. This is the later one.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:36 AM

Bakster !

 Whaddya tink youse is doin ? I can't stop laughing . And that's without the Jack BlackGood , job there . I enjoyed the toon , Man !

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:38 PM

littletimmy

 

( Shameless plug for "Life Alert". )

 

Hey! I have one and I use it often! Grumbling.... Hehe.

Crying

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:21 PM

    L O L O L O L O L ! ! ! ! 

HELP, .... Baxter's fallen .... and he cant get up !

( Shameless plug for "Life Alert". )

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:13 PM

littletimmy

What , ... will they bring Ice ?

 

. Lol. Since that I can't move, they will bring a straw. 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:10 PM

Hodakamax

Were on our way!

 

Good! Because I am stuck, and I can't get up.

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:10 PM

Were on our way!

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:08 PM

Bakster
I'm in trouble. Call the coastguard.

What , ... will they bring Ice ?

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:09 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
Making sure that I didn't fall in. 

 

Yea, but ... the water's only 1/4 inch deep.

Just sit up, ..... you'll be fine!

 

Lol. It's not the depth. It's the toilet paper and glue. That, and the few rum and cokes. I'm in trouble. Call the coastguard.

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:54 PM

Bakster
Making sure that I didn't fall in. 

Yea, but ... the water's only 1/4 inch deep.

Just sit up, ..... you'll be fine!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 3:02 PM

Hodakamax

Just checkin' on ya! Geeked

Maxie

 

Yep. Making sure that I didn't fall in. 

Yes

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:39 PM

Just checkin' on ya! Geeked

Maxie

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:42 AM

Hodakamax

What's going on in the shipyard? The reactor will be half-lifed out before launch at this rate. LOL!---Maxie Geeked

 

Hey Max—Right? No power… no show.
 
Progress is being made, but, it is slow. What I have done and not reported is that I added more lime green in some areas, particularly around the edges of the frame. I didn’t like how my first pass looked. After that—I applied two coats of Tamiya clear blue. I had a bit of a boondoggle there because some areas turned the green to a sort of red. I suspect that I didn’t wait long enough for the green to cure. It was several hours, it should have been ok, but ---the reaction was there. The Tamiya clear formula seems like something you must be careful with. This is not a reaction that I would have expected. So—I touched up those areas, let it cure, then applied clear blue over it again.
 
I am at a point now where I can attempt to add the rayon fibers. But—I am trying the give the clear blue ample time to cure. I laid it on heavy, and I don’t want to see more goofy reactions with the next step. The next step requires adding another brand of clear acrylic. I will probably attempt it very soon though, and no later than Saturday.
 
I am still not so optimistic about this seascape thing. Just saying. I don’t have the experience laying down the fibers and doing it correctly is what will either make or break the thing.
 
Depending on how things go—I may have some images to post in the near future.
 
Thanks for the interest, and the question. It shows you are a true Seaview WIP follower!
Drinks

  • Member since
    April 2016
  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:20 AM

What's going on in the shipyard? The reactor will be half-lifed out before launch at this rate. LOL!---Maxie Geeked

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, February 25, 2018 11:00 PM

Timmy... I looks good! Giddy up!

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