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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:50 AM

the main mast done

 

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 4:28 AM
Très chic! XXXDAn
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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 12:16 AM

the bowspit modified , not brilliant , but the lashing should cover some sin's .

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, December 9, 2017 8:12 AM

Steve,

I am not familiar with that little platform supporting the mast.  Could you please elaborate for me?

Thanks!

Bill

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 10:41 AM

Steve, everything you do is absolutely beautiful. What do you mean rumors, when you are as good as you it's not a rumor. At my age, I don't make changes. If I did I would still be glueing the hull together., right or wrong, but I am as happy as a clam. I open the box & build the model.

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, December 9, 2017 11:27 AM

Bill,

Steve's probably still in the land of Nod ... It's around 4 am in Adelaide - At the moment I can't recall where in Australia Steve lives but no doubt it's still early. He'll chime in soon I'm sure.

If you're referring to the platform surrounding the mainmast, I think it's just that Steve hasn't completed the quarter deck yet, although I may be mistaken. I also may not have understood your question correctly .. as often happens to me when trying to help out Embarrassed.

Here are a couple scans from my book: HMS Victory by McGowan.

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 3:06 PM

bill

, I am no historian , the platform you refer to is as mike said , I have remover either side of the main mast , apparently in 1765 this is what the victory looked like , I have also shortened the forecastle deck somewhat . I have been attempting to follow michael D's beautiful build on pete coleman's site , he is a very good historian and this is what he came up with . their is quite a few change's to be made to the rigging as well .

mike 

thank's for helping me out , you were right , I was well into the land of nod [I'm from queensland ] , and I wish I had your library mate

gene 

cheer's mate

 

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  • From: Ludwigsburg Germany
Posted by dafi on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:26 AM
That platform was a contemporary feature with all the ships :-) To be seen on many models in the NMM. One must not forget, those ships were heavily modified throughout their career. But that is the fun of it, getting these details. Very nice build to follow. Daniel
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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:01 AM

Got it! I understand.  Thanks!

Bill

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, January 18, 2018 3:11 AM

sorry to be so long posting , but i have been having a lot of trouble getting the stern right , still at it , this is where I am at . 

 

 

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, January 18, 2018 7:05 AM

Steve,

I was hoping that you would post again!  You have taken on an impressive undertaking, and it looks great so far!

Bill

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:21 AM

Yeah. What Bill said!

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:58 PM

thankyou gentlemen , but this aft end is giving me fit's , my computer crashed and I lost all my data on it , I have been trying to find some more . but I'll get thereConfused

 

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:54 PM

It looks impressive Steve! I know you’ll figure it out. And you had an offsite backup for your computer ... correct?

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:28 PM

docidle

It looks impressive Steve! I know you’ll figure it out. And you had an offsite backup for your computer ... correct?

Steve

 

no mate I didn't unfortunately , I've only just learn't of such thing's , as I have said many times my computer skill's aren't that great . Embarrassed my grandkid's are hopefully going to help in that department

 

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, January 26, 2018 8:58 PM

just came across this little gem for doing rat line's , not only keep's the line's straight but stop's the wine glass effect , so simple , but genius .

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/14818-rat-line-tension-tool/

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, March 17, 2018 1:47 AM

I had to have a bit of a spell from this build , was going nowhere in a hurry , having another go , this where I'm up too . still rough and ready , but at least I am progressing .

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:27 AM

Steve,

She's looking great so far. The seams are a minor issue that are easily correctible.  It's an impressive conversion!

Bill

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, March 17, 2018 9:11 AM

Hey Steve, I was thinking about you yesterday and this build. I was wondering how things are going. Now I know. Looking good sir.

Cheers.

 

Steve

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:26 AM

thanks guy's , appreciate the comments . slowly but surely .

can any one , please name the yard on the mizzen mast at 45 degree's , with the lifting rigging on the end ,I want too look up the rigging plan to it , but I don't the name . any help please guy's .

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:52 AM

It’s a Lateen Mizzen.

The line from the top to the end of the yard is a peak halyard.

The line to the bottom end of the yard is the bowline.

Missing from this drawing are all of the lines attached to the sail. Primary would be the sheet, attached to the bottom corner, or clew, of the sail. It’s a double block line. It might run from a boom kin sticking off the stern, up to a block at the clew, back down to the end of the boomkin, through a block and over the stern rail to a pin or cleat.

When the ship tacks, either of two things happen. If it’s a long tack, the sail gets brailed up tight against the yard. The bowline gets detached. The peak halyard hauls the yard to as vertical a position as possible.

The bottom end of the yard gets worked around the back of the mast, the bowline gets reattached and the peak halyard gets loosened so that the yard can set on the leeward side of the mast, the sail unbrailed and set on the new tack.

Or on a short tack, the ship simply tacks and the sail bears against the mast in a “bad tack” until the next tack, where whatever side of the mast the yard is on is once again to leeward.

On a big ship like Victory that would be common. Otherwise it might take 30 or 40 crew to do the operation. It’s not so much a driving sail as a steering sail.

Hope that helps.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:30 AM

thankyou bill , it help's a lot .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, April 1, 2018 10:45 PM

still some touch up work to do , but getting there .

 

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  • From: Chicago suburbs
Posted by Luvspinball on Monday, April 2, 2018 2:56 PM

Excellent craftsmanship!

I will be following with earnest.

 

 

Bob Frysztak

Luvspinball

Current builds:  Revell 1/96 USS Constitution with extensive scratch building

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Monday, April 2, 2018 10:13 PM

Steve,

I know I’m sounding repetitive here but I love the work you’ve accomplished so far. This is going to be one awesome model when you’re done. Thanks for posting the progress, I really appreciate it.

Steve

       

 

 

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:05 AM

Turning out to be a wonderful build Steve. I'm so happy I can view your hard work and see what can be done with the kit. Just outstanding.

At the risk of being sued for copyright infrigement, I'm going to post three 1/2 leafs (in other words .. three pages Wink)  from McGowan's book on HMS Victory. I hope they are of some use to you.

Edit (4/3/18) : Since they're of no use to you because I'd forgotten you're building her as she looked in 1765 I've taken down the images.

I'll send more images from another book to you via your own private email.

 

 

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:11 AM

bob 

cheer's mate

steve

thankyou , for the kind word's 

mike

thankyou too my friend , but I think that sail configuration didn't come in till around 1780 , I'm after the extended lateen sail set-up

this picture is off of a french 74 , the haliard's are on both side's , can any one tell me the difference's , between the english and french type's please . do the haliard's run only on one side ,? do they run to mizzen mast ,? if so where ? , any help will be greatly appreciated , guy's

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Friday, April 6, 2018 10:11 AM

Hi Steve,

Have you've made any headway on the Lateen yard yet mate?, I can post up some pic's of mine IE: dimension of the yard, rigging and belaying points etc if that would help?. Let me know.

 

Michael D.

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, April 6, 2018 3:56 PM

thankyou michael , that would be greatly appreciated , I have ordered james lees the masting and rigging of english ships of war , on 1943mike's word , he e-mailed me some pic's from the book , got it at a good price , but it will take about 3-4 week's to get here . still got a lot to do on the poop deck , and the , not sure what you call it , where the boat sit's , have to make the beam's for it etc , but any help you can give , I will most certainly take mate .

steve5

 

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:43 PM

Steve,

You said about the book you ordered ... "...,on 1943mike's word,..."

Well, I'm sure as heck no expert (or even a novice) on rigging. The reason I bought the book was because I thought I'd best learn a thing or two about rigging before attempting the same kit you're building. One person on FineScale mentioned the book a few times so I went ahead and bought it. I'll give you three guesses as to who that person was ....

Page 11, 8th post:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/146977.aspx?page=11#1800045

Fifth post down:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/p/125856/1264977.aspx#1264977

16th post down:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/p/106591/1055113.aspx#1055113

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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