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P-40 GB 2014
Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:13 PM

Hi all.

It seems there was a "need" for another GB dedicated to the P-40.

I am opening this GB for that reason.

"rules"

01 Feb 2014 to 31 July 2014

Any scale P-40

Out of box or full "bling" if you want

Crossovers allowed

Projects of 20% or less completed

WIP pix please

MOST IMPORTANT - Must be fun!

The roster in the next post.

If someone can come up with a nice badge please feel free to post so we might use it.

Here is the badge guys, I hope all like it and will take one if you feel you will complete this GB :-)

Theuns

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:59 PM

You know I have to Theuns....Academy P-40M/N, 1/72. Another one out of the stash :)

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 8:31 PM

theuns the kit i am working is also the trump 1/32 kit.

joe

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Posted by bvallot on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:48 PM

Ha!  And here I am in three different GBs right now when I'm supposed to be planning a wedding...!! =D

Good grief.

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, January 16, 2014 6:47 PM

Here is the group badge for all to use.


Screen Shot 2014-01-16 at 5.53.42 PM by brittvallot, on Flickr

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, January 17, 2014 4:09 AM

Oh I like the one with the plane in a slight dive - with the yellow spinner :-)

Theuns

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Posted by bvallot on Friday, January 17, 2014 10:17 AM

I like that one too.  I think it's an easy winner.  No love for the shark?! lol.  I thought I'd try a different looking badge that would stand apart some from the others.  =]  I'm not sure I'm settled on it either.

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, January 17, 2014 11:06 AM

How about these? I got them out of a book I have, no idea if there might be any leagle issues if used for non-profit?

I can mail someone the pix, I can't add all the graphics to it.........I'mm way to dim for that!

I am open to all sugestions for a badge though.

i803.photobucket.com/.../models123_zps4d6493f6.jpg

i803.photobucket.com/.../models122_zps4733e442.jpg

Theuns

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Posted by bvallot on Friday, January 17, 2014 7:54 PM

badges omitted.

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, January 17, 2014 11:44 PM

Oh yes sir! That is nice :-)

How about we put it to the vote to all who signed up? That should be fair I recon.

Now I am getting exited about this GB.

Theuns

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:54 PM

I like them all, but vote for the badge with the yellow spinner too.

 

 

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:06 AM

The beauty of democracy in action :-)

Theuns

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:03 PM

Well, I'm going to kickstart some things here.  I just got my Revell/Monogram P-40B in the mail today.  =]  Also picked up the True Details cockpit and Ultracast exhausts to spruce things up a bit.

I already started some test fittings.


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

You can't see it here completely but the floor is well detailed too.  There is a slight curve to it also.  Nothing extreme, but it's enough to recognize.

There are some defects in the kit's molding.  They got the damn "Revell Inc 1964" stamped on the bottom.  That will need to get filed down.  Otherwise, I'm really impressed with this kit's accuracy in it's shape and lines and fine detail.  I'll be tinkering with certain aspects on it.  So far I'm really excited to get to painting that cockpit!!

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:32 PM

I like the yellow nose pic, too.

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:11 PM

Yeah, I like that one too.  I'd give it my vote.  Somewhat fond of the shark, but that particular one doesn't quite sell me.  I do kinda like the 2nd tigershark nose that Theuns proposed.  

Do y'all want to have two to pick from and post with?

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by DJinFlorida on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:24 PM

I'm in with an Academy 1/72 P-40B.  

And I like the yellow spinner also.

-DJ

On the bench: 1/48 Avenger, 1/72 P40B
On daughter's bench: 1/72 ID4 Attacker
On wife's bench: 1/48 P40B
In the stash:  1/48 P-51D Mustang , 1/72 F4F-4 Wildcat, 1/48 Huey Hog

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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:38 PM

Hey DJ, updated on the front page:-)

Does it seem that yellow spinner pic is more popular? If so, let's go for that one then, what say you??

Theuns

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Posted by bvallot on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:30 PM

Unless anyone votes otherwise...I'm fine with that one. =]

So I figured I'd carry on with the momentum of the excitement of getting everything in the mail and work up the cockpit to get the ball rolling.  Since this is the first P-40 I've ever set out to do, I've been doing my research into the plane especially in regards to the AVG in China.  I've come to learn as many of you already know that these P-40s were originally made for the British and naturally had their own paint schemes and particular brand of colors.  I happened to find a site that really made finding this a lot easier. 

http://www.ratomodeling.com/articles/AVG_cammo/

Over the last two years, as I've gotten into modeling I've read thru various posts on The Flying Tigers and how all of this had come about but this site is really a one stop shop for modelers doing the P-40.  I wanted to share in case you haven't seen it yet.  =]

Starting with the seat and floor...the seats were often left unpainted and the floor was made up of the upper wing surface.  Both of these were painted with Alclad's Gloss  Black and Duraluminum.  I also buffed the Duraluminum over where the pilot's feet may rest.  As far as painting the floor...I've seen on another site for a flight sim that accurately depicts the P-40B and on this site photos had shown the floor to be painted in the manner you see below.  I can't find if some were left bare or painted in the Cockpit Light Green, but I wanted to show both so this is what I settled for.  


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

The interior color is said to have been originally a DuPont color and of course there's been some talk of what FS color best describes it.  This debate can actually get worse if you consider how color changes based on what it's next to and the size of the color swab.  So, smaller scaled cockpits like modelers do will still change the color to some extent on its own.  The website below describes a green that doesn't exactly have a FS equivalent.  Or at least not one I've been able to find. 71-036 Cockpit Light Green seems to be a lighter Olive Green.  That's what I've gone with.   I started by painting the cockpit surfaces Flat Black.  I used Tamiya's Olive Green[XF-58]  and Olive Drab [XF-62] 2:1 respectively to build up the color and allow darker greens for shadows, and finished by adding Sky Grey [XF-19]  to the mix in order to lighten this color up.  This was painted on top.  The IP and other misc boxes were done in my usual Medium Blue/Flat Black combo with very finely painted dots of Flat White to hint at the placards that would've have identified different panels.  There are some inaccuracies here with the True Details cockpit side walls.  So I'll scratch build a couple of things like the canopy crank and what not, but for now this is a stopping point.  I also gave up on drybrushing the IP.  Instead, I'll just use some decals I've been saving for something like this.  =]

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/34564-ww2-us-colours-on-british-aircraft/

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by ajd3530 on Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:47 AM
You can go ahead and scratch me in with a 1/48 Amtech P-40L, but I won't be getting to it till probably June-ish.

As for the badge debate, I personally like the one directly below the yellow spinner, with the red spinner/shark's mouth in a climb. But the one with the yellow spinner would be my 2nd choice.
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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:29 AM

Consider yourself scratched !

Theuns

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, January 27, 2014 2:52 AM

OK guys, here is my entry.

Trumpeter 1/32 P-40B Mk2

It will basically be out the box , I just got some South African AF 5 sqn decals for it. It will be in standard RAF temperate desert colors.

Theuns

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, January 27, 2014 9:08 AM

she is a good kit and goes together well.  

joe

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, January 27, 2014 10:39 AM

Hye Joe, yes I believe it is . I also have the 1/32 F-4u1d in the stash and that looks even better in the box. Hmm .......maybe a "bent wing GB" after the P-40 gb is completed ;-)

Theuns

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, January 27, 2014 12:50 PM

Ha!! Just say the word... =]

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, January 27, 2014 2:32 PM

Got a little work done yesterday while the woman was at a baby shower.  =D

I've considered building up the engine...even though it won't be visible.  I'm trying to figure out how I feel about it since I always do spend a good bid of attention on it.  I didn't put one in the mustang I just about finished and I'm kind of on the fence about it.  Since the oil cooler and carbs are visible from the cowl flaps I figure I'll at least detail those up some.


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

Here's my start with some plastic and brass tube.  


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

The mesh is doubled up since it isn't as small as I'd like.  One is an Eduard mesh the other is from my LHS.


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

That's about where I got so far.  I'll repeat this to the other side. Then rig up the scoops that make up the walls of each side and the mounts for everything.  

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by mississippivol on Monday, January 27, 2014 9:29 PM

That's some fine work on those scoops!

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Posted by Theuns on Monday, January 27, 2014 10:42 PM

Very cool! Love it.

I had to make piece with the fact that I will never live up the the quality of some (actually most) of the builds on this forum................and from that day I have had more fun building just for myself LOL.

On my P-40 I wanted to attempt painting on the markings with montex masks, but they do not have the Sqn codes for the SAAF Mk2 I wanted to do.

Luckly I gt a set of decal for it from Tally-ho.  A tad expensive at $16-00 , but a whole lot work than cutting out my own masks!

OK, guys what say you, will we go for the Yellow spinner plane as the "official badge"?

If there is anyone who I have not yet added to the roster PLEASE post here so I can do it asap.

Thanx

Theuns

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, January 27, 2014 11:12 PM

I like it. Let's do it.  I'll clean up the image and make it official.  =]

And who are you kidding Theuns?!?  The stuff I've seen on the NMF thread is pretty solid. *thumbs up!

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, January 27, 2014 11:21 PM

Actually, It's good like it is.  This was already updated.  I forgot.  =P

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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