CapnMac82

For tassles, you might look at braided wire with the jacket stripped away.

That is certainly a possibility.

What I was thinking is to use an artist brush. Lop off the ends for a straight cut, then cut the bunch off just above the bristles where they are held in place. Maybe use some CA to bind the bristles firmly into what remains of the holder and then fashion some sort of decorative end. I would try to find some cheap brushes that fit the bill. The scale is pretty close too. The unkowns are unknown until I try it. I can imagine the whole thing falling apart while cutting but one never knows. If that would happen i could dunk the bristles in thin CA beforehand to bind them together. We shall see.

Thanks about the foil, too. 

Bakster

 

 

GMorrison

 

 

 

 

I like where you are going with this. Your design is how I imagined you might go with it and I like it. This could take the build to whole other level. There are two issues that I see.   I am not sure I would want the chains to hang so low because they would block view of the gold. The gold is such a big part of the plot. I could raise the chains but does that compromise the credibility of having them? Secondly. I need to review the logistics of it. I believe I'd have to push the valance panel back, and possible the floor as well in order to give clearance between the glass.

 

 

Ok, here is what I found out. There is a gap between the window and valance/floor, but I don't think it's wide enough to accommodate the ball and maybe not even the chain. Rather than push the valence/floor back, (it would be a nightmare to pull off), I could push the window forward. As it is there are tiny spacers built into the frame lifting the window and I'd suppose act as mounting pins. I could make longer ones pushing the window forward. Now, the downside is that this creates larger gaps around the window. There is a solution though. I can extend the borders using flat stock and the good thing is that the trim of the window will be painted, thus hiding any work that I do.

So, long story short, it seems doable. I'd be interested in peoples views about shortening the chain lengths. Seeing a good portion of the gold pile is for me, imperative. Open to thoughts and ideas. 

goldhammer

I'd take a look at some fine mesh tule fabric, or something on the line of 70 mesh screen.  If fabric could soak in diluted white glue, press between towels to keep the mesh open.  Form to shape, dry and paint steel or silver.

Various mesh screens are available from Jobe and Keene as gold classifiers.  Don't know if available as just the screen, but should be somewhere.

Would add to the armored look of the project

 

Hey GH. Can you find me an image of mesh used in the real world? I am fuzzy about how this applies to armor and how it would look?

Looks like finer window screen.  Mesh numbers refer to number of openings per square inch.

Was thinking more of chainmail curtains tied back like the kit ones, rather than armor.

goldhammer

Was thinking more of chainmail curtains tied back like the kit ones, rather than armor.

Oh! That is interesting! I like that idea! Hmm. I will need to research this.

Thanks for that. I likey. 

Primed the roof assembly and I found some pin holes I have to fill. Amazing what you find once the primer goes on. I also found a slight depression in one section that I had filled.

In the interest of full disclosure: I have come to realize that I forgot a learned lesson. Remember that I used sprugoo as a filler? What I forgot is that the stuff tends to shrink. So when I had the roof looking really good, weeks later I looked again and I noticed some depressions in my work. Then it hit me... it shrunk. I had once used sprugoo to cast a figure and I found that over time, the figure shrank dramatically. I am talking like half the size. I forgot that little lesson.

Anyhow, to fix the issues I had to apply some CA. I still like sprugoo but I have to try and remind myself that it shrinks over time and using it as a filler should be limited to thin layers, if even that. I will probably just stick with CA for bigger jobs.

I came across this awesome train setup. Their weathering is tremendous.

Sorry, nothing really to contribute but I'm just going to stand here and oh and ah...

Really like how this is going and all the great ideas...

Gamera

Sorry, nothing really to contribute but I'm just going to stand here

Kind of how I feel. Lol

Surprisingly:

 I forgot to mention that you have to use more than one layer for bigger projects. I do apologise for that, My Bad!

Hey TB--you have nothing to be sorry for. I should have known on my own because this is not my first rodeo with the, "GOO!" Giddy up!

Hey--but--maybe you have a feel for how long it takes for the stuff to finally settle. Roughly how many days? Do you know?

I don't know how I missed this thread. Awsome work and ideas. Will be watching from now on.

Hi; Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this!

       The project I used the most on lately is an Multi - Piece " N " scale parking lot. I used Sproo-Gloo to fill the seams. Yes, it did shrink. Yes, when I sanded the residue away it was perfectly flat. The Cure time for the beads of stuff applied in the cracks was four days!. Yup, it has a long Application to Sandability time frame.

       Thicker Sproo Gloo, Takes less time but workabaaility is also poorer as in terms of laying it down in the correct spot. Plus you don't want a raised dot! You want something that will blend in. There is a " Happy Medium" but you have to find one you're satisfied with. 

Tanker-Builder

Hi; Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this!

       The project I used the most on lately is an Multi - Piece " N " scale parking lot. I used Sproo-Gloo to fill the seams. Yes, it did shrink. Yes, when I sanded the residue away it was perfectly flat. The Cure time for the beads of stuff applied in the cracks was four days!. Yup, it has a long Application to Sandability time frame.

       Thicker Sproo Gloo, Takes less time but workabaaility is also poorer as in terms of laying it down in the correct spot. Plus you don't want a raised dot! You want something that will blend in. There is a " Happy Medium" but you have to find one you're satisfied with. 

   

 

No worries, TB. Thanks for responding. Yeah it's a little slow in ways but it works well.

Dodgy

I don't know how I missed this thread. Awsome work and ideas. Will be watching from now on.

 

Welcome aboard, Dodgy. Glad to have you following. And thanks for the encouragement!

So, no updates today but I can tell you that this is still being worked on. As previously mentioned I had some filler rework to do. With that complete, it is not 100% perfect, but darn close and good enough for me.

The roof and ceiling are primed, then just today the roof painted green. I am attempting to weather the roof. I want a sort of sun bleached look to it. When it comes to weathering, it's a velocity killer for me because I don't always know how to get the look that I am going after. Not one of my strengths, yet. So, I have to test things, and that becomes a process. I sure wish I had the weathering skillset that some of you guys have. Anyhow, I think I have a plan for the bleaching. More on that at the reveal.

The plan is to paint the roof, ceiling, install the guns, gun housing, and lastly, the stack. This will pretty much complete the roof assembly. I estimate two weeks.

See you on the flip side.

Sounds good! Looking forward to the photos. 

As I wait for paint to dry on the roof assembly-- I am pressing forward. 

I decided about the chain mail. I was initially considering having them placed forward of the valance panels. For lack of space, fitting them between the sandwiched glass is a problem. I considered moving the glass assembly forward via spacers, but this would create open air gaps around the glass. With a fair amount of work, I might be able fix that but after further review-- it will present a lot of challenges and pitfalls. Moving the valances backward is an even more challenging option. I do not think any of this is worth the time and the risk. So--I will probably move the chain mail to behind the valance panels. What the heck. If I have any incoming rounds, the panels will get shredded either way. Nemo has people that can fix that stuff. 

Btw--I ordered the chain mail kit that GM linked to. Their product is something a person could fabricate using map tacks and chain, but their kit saves me the time of trying to source the correct scale. And heck, I like to support businesses too. Once I get them, I will see just how much clearance I will need. There IS a gap between the glass and panels, but I doubt it will be enough. We shall see.

Below: I removed the crummy tassels. I will try fabricating something better.

While I researched gaps for the chain mail-- I tested the remaining glass pieces for fit. See below...yet more 1960s quality. The arc of the piece is way off. Bending and holding that piece will take considerable bonding power that would most likely fail. Funny thing is-- I remember I had the same issue when I built this many years ago. It was another punch to the stomach for a young kid trying to build something cool.

In trying to force that bend internal stress fractures formed. I suspected that might happen and it's unfortunate. Just for grins-- I also tried heating it, but the continued stresses created more fractures. It turns the plastic frosty. So-- I see no other option but to fabricate the piece using clear sheet styrene. In the end, it will have better clarity than the thick kit provided piece. And fortunately-- the kit provided piece does not have any beveled detail. Going with the sheet styrene should be a seamless transition.

And that ends my babble for the day. 

Sounds cool!

Again no helpful ideas- I'll just sit back and watch.

Hi; 

 Because of the curves and for clarity in this particular build, I would recommend.010 or .005 Styrene clear sheet for the windows! You have worked to hatd to let those crummy pieces of  clear plastic stop you !

As usual Gam, I wish the project was advancing faster. Just not enough time. Thanks for following!

Tanker-Builder

Because of the curves and for clarity in this particular build, I would recommend.010 or .005 Styrene clear sheet for the windows!

Funny you should mention this TB. I was just researching the available thickness options. 

Tanker-Builder

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Hey, thanks for the push! I always appreciate that. But no worries. I won't let a crummy window stop me. I am just glad we have options to overcome things like this. Unlike when I was a kid, with little money, and little skill.

Hi:

     Well, on your last comment, After I forgot to finish mine, LOL!LOL! Sorry about that, One letter of the Alphabet does not an answer make. Anyway, When I was little I got shuffled from Florida to Western New York Twice a year. Money was non existant in N.Y. and almost so in Fla.

      I built ships as I have described before as fountain finds, With typing paper overlays to cover the B.B.Holes! paint them Testors Square bottle light grey and shift parts around till the model was restored, Models other than that were gifted. Then I learned how to use paper and cardboard on my models if I wanted to bash them. The idea for the thin plastic that was clear came from one of those ventures. Someone( One of my relatives, maybe) Gave me Revell's 1/32 Mercury Montclair Phaeton 4dr. and of course that was before they put the window plastic in the kits.

       Promise not to laugh! I got this bright idea. Scotch Tape! Remember they didn't have the tape that was frosty yet. I would take a new roll and take a length of it and pull it off the roll. Lay it on a piece of glass shiny side down. Then Carefully put another on top Sticky side down. Very carefully Burnishing the bubbles out. Viola" Window material for model cars and the Revell Tugboat.

       Dad came home one day when I was in the process of doing that( My Foster Dad, That is) Finally got to stay Put! he goes to his dresser and pulls out a new shirt and gives me the plastic insert from the collar! "Try This" He Says "I think it will work better" Well, it sure did. And I had already learned my lesson about glue and clear parts from planes. So, even then I used Elmers liquid school glue to put them in. Plain and simple models were rare enough I couldn't afford to mess them up!

       So you see, that's why I am a proponent of using found material to help on the builds. If you cannot afford it, there is always something out  there that will do the job well, Testors and Pactra didn't have flat paints back then So, we used Talcum Powder to flatten it! The more you put in the flatter it got. But you had to be careful or you might put in to much and all you had then was Talcum Powder colored paste!

      I could go on But, I don't want to bore you. Or commandeer your day

Tanker-Builder

 Well, on your last comment, After I forgot to finish mine, LOL!LOL! Sorry about that, One letter of the Alphabet does not an answer make.

Hey TB--LOL. No. This was NOT your mistake, it was mine. For some reason when I pasted your comment only the K came through. The apolgy is mine to give. Sorry for the confusion.

It sounds like you had some guidance on the clear plastic and such. Not to sound like a pity party-- but when not working his fulltime job-- my Dad would hide in the garage managing pet projects, and my Mom was too busy handling five hungry kids. Having loose parental reign was not entirely bad I guess. My brother tells me I was seldom home. And when I think about it -- I think he is right. I found ways to entertain myself since the parents seldom did. Lol. It's a minor miracle I didn't get into trouble, in soooo many ways. Thank you Lord. Phew. 

I Thought!

        There was an incident when I was twelve. I had gotten Lindberg's Chris Craft Constellation for my birthday. I built it according to the instructions with the cardboard interior and a rudimentary R/C system. In looking for a place to sail it(We didn't have a Pool) I saw this beautiful fountain outside of a Building under construction. ( there was no fence around the site).

       The fountain was lit and functioning in the center of a curved finished driveway in front of the building. So, I took my Connie and carefully set it in my bicycle Basket( I had a large one( Paper Route, ya Know!) And pedaled my behind over there. She was cruising around the spurters that sent water vertically. I got so engrossed I didn't see a grown Up come up in the dark.

       " What are you Doing" was The comment that almost had me Filling the nether end of my pants! There was this man standing there watching me. "That's a beautiful Boat" he then says. " May I see it?" "Sshure" was my fumbling reply. Turns out I wasn't in trouble. Someone had called him and told him about me being there. He was the Production Supervisor for the then new Studio for Channel 5 - T.V. in West Palm Beach, Florida

 I wound up on a Kids saturday morning Show for one interview, with my boat. Dad was Livid! Til he found out what it was all about, and they would pay me! Then it was okay, Because I would miss Saturday Paper delivery! That's the only money I got and he would let me keep ten dollars of it a week. The Rest HAD to go in a Savings Account!

Fun story, TB. It is one of those fun moments in a persons childhood.

I think what I miss about childhood most is the wonder of it all. At times, its seeming like a dream. Everything was a wonder. Food tasted better, the air was sweeter, the sun more conforting, the toys more astounding, and stories are more captivating.

One of the very few times my Dad did a one on one activity with me ended up being one for the books. Out of nowhere he decides to build a model plane. Only, I watched, and he built. And that was fine because I had no clue what he was doing.

He finds a styrofoam tray that ground beef comes on and he proceeds to cut out an airframe. The wings, tail, the whole smack. The main wing is one piece inserted through a slit in the main body. The tail is similarly made and assembled. Then he bends the wing surface to give it lift. He then ties a string to the nose and we go outside. The other side of the string is anchored to the ground via a stick and he proceeds to toss the plane into the air. And what do you know, the plane hung in the air like a kite. I was amazed. 

That plane hung in the air for hours, pretty much until evening when the wind died down. The next day, I went out and tossed it in the air and there it went. It flew for hours. What a great toy. Eventually, like all toys, they lose their luster in our search to find the next great thing. I imagine it ended up in the garbage or run over by a lawnmower. A few years later I tried to duplicate what he did and heck, my plane didn't have the magic to stay aloft. That was one magical plane he built.

2 nice stories guys

Hey:

   I'll bet there's a lot of One on One with Dad stories and Hobbies, out there. With my Foster Dad( I still Miss Him) it was Lionel Trains and Woodshop creations. I just thought of something too! For your curtains and tassels you could use Doll House tasseled pillows

Lol, awesome stories guys!

I had a battery powered submarine back when I was a bit younger. Tied to a fishing line and let her cruise out into a local lake. Had a couple guys tell me later that they thought it was a bass trolling along just under the surface and that they thought about throwing their lines out to it!

Tanker-Builder

   I'll bet there's a lot of One on One with Dad stories and Hobbies, out the

Indeed.

Tanker-Builder

. I just thought of something too! For your curtains and tassels you could use Doll House tasseled pillows Add Quote to your

Maybe so TB but everything I see for dollhouses at the local HL or Michaels are too large out of scale..

Gamera

Lol, awesome stories guys!

 

I had a battery powered submarine back when I was a bit younger. Tied to a fishing line and let her cruise out into a local lake. Had a couple guys tell me later that they thought it was a bass trolling along just under the surface and that they thought about throwing their lines out to it!

 

Good one cliff. Now if only that sub could spit water at them as you circle. That would be fun.