1,000 Roadwheels - 2009

Reference goodies (kits, books, URL's, etc)

Kit availability – there’s no way to list everything that’s ever been boxed that had a Panzer IV chassis underneath it, but I can come up with a good start, anyway (I’m positive there’s more CH stuff). Will organize by manufacturer. Only doing 1/35 scale…lot more stuff in 1/48 and 1/72 if you’re so inclined. Some of these are discontinued kits – but can be had on the cheap if you’re that type of shopper.

Academy:

1327 Pz.IV Ausf. H-4

1328 Pz.IV Ausf. H/J

1332 Stug IV

1333 Wirbelwind 

Cyber-Hobby:

6398 Pz.IV Ausf. F1 Vorpanzer

6437 Raketenwerfer Fahrgestell Pz.IV

6497 Sturmpanzer IV Early

DML/Dragon:

6043 Stug IV Late

6080 Pz. IV Ausf. J Late

6081 Sturmpanzer IV

6082 Jagdpanzer IV/70(A)

6107 Stug IV Final

6136 Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz

6150 Hummel (Initial)

6165 Hornisse

6166 Nashorn

6204 Hummel (Early)

6264 Pz. IV Ausf. E

6265 Pz. IV Ausf. D

6291 Pz. IV Ausf. C

6301 Pz. IV Ausf. E Vorpanzer

6314 Nashorn Premium

6315 Pz. IV Ausf. F1

6330 Pz.IV Ausf. D

6334 Bruckenleger IVB

6357 Dicker Max

6360 Pz. IV Ausf. F2/G

6363 Pz. IV Ausf. G LAH Division

6402 Pz. IV Ausf. E Tauchpanzer

6439 Heuschreke Ivb

6460 Sturmpanzer IV Mid

6475 leFH18/1 Gw IV b

9021 Jagdpanzer IV L/48 Early

9043 Jagdpanzer IV L/70 Command

9044 Pz. IV Ausf. F1 DAK

9059 Jagdpanzer IV A-0

Italeri:

6217 Pz. IV Ausf. F1/F2/G

Tamiya:

35077 Sturmpanzer IV

35087 Stug IV

35088 Jagdpanzer IV/70

35096 Pz. IV Ausf. D

35181 Pz. IV Ausf. J

35209 Pz. IV Ausf. H

35233 Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind

35237 Flakpanzer IV Mobelwagen

Tristar:

35015 Pz. IV Ausf. D

35017 Pz. IV Ausf. C

35021 Pz. IV Ausf. B

35023 Pz.IV Ausf. D Tauch

35038 Sturmpanzer IV Early

Trumpeter:

00348 Dicker Max

00362 Pz. IV Ausf. D/E Fahrgestell

00363 Pz. IV Ausf. F Fahrgestell

00373 Heuschreke IVb

00374 leFH18/1 Gw IVb

Books - there's a ton out there. Currently, I'm using the Spielberger Panzer IV and its Variants tome, as well as the Squadron (Hjermstad) Panzer IV Medium Tank as my primary refs. Any suggestions?

The Roster:

Dupes - 1/35 Tristar Pz. IV Ausf. B
            1/72 DML Jagdpanzer IV L/70

BigSmitty - 1/35 Tamiya Wirbelwind

Glamdring - 1/35 DML Brummbar Late
              - 1/72 Hasegawa Jagdpanzer IV L48

Bish - 1/35 DML Kugelblitz (sweet!)
         1/35 Italeri Ostwind

Bufflehead - 1/35 Tristar Pz. IV Ausf. D
               - 1/35 Coree Pz. IV Ausf. A (uber-sweet!)

WarHammer25 - 1/35 DML Pz. IV Ausf. D w/7.5cm
                    - 1/35 DML Dicker Max

Pordoi -  1/35 Trumpeter Bruckenleger
             1/35 DML Pz. IV Ausf. F1

Wing_nut - 1/35 Tamiya Pz. IV Ausf. H
                1/72 DML Pz. IV Ausf. ?

Hans Von Hammer - 1/35 Academy Wirbelwind

BBrowniii - 1/35 DML Nashorn Premium

SMJModeler - 1/35 Tamiya Jagdpanzer IV L/70 Lang

Azgaron - 1/35 Tamiya Pz.IV Ausf. H
            - 1/35 DML Hummel

stick man - 1/35 DML Pz.IV Ausf. G LAH Division
                1/35 Tamiya Pz. IV Ausf. D
                1/35 Tristar Pz. IV Ausf. C

Tigerman - 1/35 Tamiya Pz.IV Ausf. J 

Thunderbolt379 - 1/35 Italeri Jagdpanzer IV L/70 

Panzer88 - 1/35 ??? Pz.IV w/Schmallturm
               1/35 DML JagdPanzer IV/70(A)
               1/35 DML Pz. IV Ausf. J

Detailfreak - 1/35 DML Pz.IV Ausf. F2(G)
                  1/35 DML Brummbar Mid
                  1/35 DML Nashorn
                  1/35 DML Pz.IV Ausf. E

JMart - 1/35 Tamiya Pz.IV Ausf. D

NucMedTech - 1/35 DML Pz.IV Ausf. E 

SomeAssemblyRequired - 1/35 Tamiya Pz.IV Ausf. J

Firesmacker - 1/35 DML Pz.IV Ausf. J Late

Squeakie - 1/35 Tamiya StuG IV 

Taxtp - 1/48 Tamiya Pz. IV Ausf. J 

mmc - 1/72 Revell Nashorn
          1/35 Tamiya Jagdpanzer IV

Jester75 - 1/35 DML StuG IV Late

Mobious - 1/35 DML Sturmpanzer IV Late
              1/35 DML Jagdpanzer IV L/48 Early

Geist - 1/35 DML Jagdpanzer IV A-0

Bushi - 1/35 DML Pz.IV Ausf. F1 DAK
          1/35 Tamiya Pz. IV Ausf. D

Castelnuovo - 1/35 Tamiya Wirbelwind
                    1/35 Tamiya Pz.IV Ausf. D

Tacobuff - 1/35 Tamiya Pz. IV Ausf. H

DBaumi60 - 1/72 Revell Hummel 

TD4438 - 1/35 DML Kugelblitz (sweet!)

Mg.Mikael - 1/35 Cyber Hobby Raketenwerfer Auf Fahragstell

Dupes,

This sounds like a great time so count me in.  I'll build the Tamiya 1/35 Flakpanzer Wirbelwind.  I've got my eye on a CH Vorpanzer... it calls to me, so we'll see about that one later.

I'm in!  DML Dicker Max is on the way right now, though I still hope to get a DML Brummbar sometime by Christmas.

So I'll be going with either of those subjects.

dupes your a very nasty man. I have promised myself that after my 251 is finished i will spend the rest of next year building aircraft to get my stash down as its twice as big as my armour one. And i decided that i would be very strict with myself and not be tempted to do anything with tracks.

And now you come along and do this.

I have an Ausf J and 4 AA versions of the Pz IV. I will most likely enter one of the later. I will finish my 251 and the two aircraft GB's i am commited to first then get back to you.

I hate you

Hey dupes, I see you've finally got the Pz IV GB going!!  I've only got 10 minutes today to spend in the forums, but as soon as I saw this thread I had to respond!  I know my GB participation is suspect these days  but I promise to get involved in this one as much as I possibly can! (BTW, I haven't forgotten the 251 halftrack GB!) I've got 7 variants of this tank in my stash, but the Tristar Pz IV Ausf. D kit keeps jumping out at me.  Can you please put me down for that one?  It will be my first Tristar kit and I'm eager to work on it. 

Dupes,

I see that the Trumpeter Sturer Emil is in your list. I always thought it was a development of Henschel VK3001 Tiger prototype, not a Panzer IV variant. I guess I am a little confused. If it is really allowed, I might pick one up, either the 1/35 or 1/72 and build it for this. I always thought it was cool.

I also have a 1/72 Dragon Jagdpanzer L/70 that is currently in my poll for the IMS3 GB, but if it does not get chosen, I could build that. I will let you know what I decide.

Dupes,

Count me in for the Trumpeter Bruckenleger.   Never built Trumpeter armor, so this will be interesting.

 Don

WarHammer25 wrote:

Dupes, I see that the Trumpeter Sturer Emil is in your list. I always thought it was a development of Henschel VK3001 Tiger prototype, not a Panzer IV variant. I guess I am a little confused.

Funny you mention that, I've had it on my hand-written list with "???" written after it, indicating I needed to do a bit of further research. You are correct, it is indeed NOT a Pz.IV variant, and will be removed shortly!

All of you guys should consider yourselves added to the list...even you, Ernest.

Any suggestions as to how long you'd like to see this run (considering all of '09, even though I dislike GB durations that long) or what you'd like to see for a badge (I'm thinking some sort of escalating badge system based on how many you can complete?) would be highly appreciated!

Sorry you hate me Bish.

Most asuredly

IN

Dupes,

I, too, hate you....

Umm, I think I am in, but let me get back to you.  I REALLY had intended to take a GB hiatus this year... hmmmm... might have to rethink that....  I do have a few IV variants on the shelf....  you BAST*&D!!

dupes: (using my best Pakistanii accent from Babbu in Seinfeld) "You are a bad man dupes...a VERY bad man!"...  A quick read of the thread makes me think that we all view this as a required GB!  How can you call yourself an armor modeler and not join a PANZER IV GB!!!!....duhhhhh

I'M IN!!! ... Put me down for a Tamiya Jagdpanzer IV L/70 Lang

dupes

No your not, you did this on purpose. I could have resisted anything, even another big cat build. But I never even dreamed anyone would do this. As SMJ said, how can any real armour modeler, especially those that mainly do German, not take part in a Pz IV build.

I will probably go for the Dragon 1/35 Kugelblitz as thats been on the shelf for years and i am dieing for an excuse. But i will 100% confirm once i have caught up.

I would say 9 months is good, till the end of sept. But, if you do decide on the escalating badge, maybe a year would be better.

O no, that means i will have to spend a whole year building Panzer IV's. If my wingy stash doesn't come down, i want to make it clear that it's your fault, ok.

As for the badge, i think it should have a Pz IV in it

Hi,

Looks like I got at least two kits that fits the bill. Both Tamiya, one StuG IV and one PzKw IV, and at least one them I like to join in this GB. I got to figure which kits to join in the IMS3 GB too!

Cheers,

Azgaron

dupes wrote:

All of you guys should consider yourselves added to the list...even you, Ernest.

Yippee!!!  

Maybe I'll do two!!

I'm very glad that you guys are all fired up! I was originally planning on doing this later in '09 when some of the other GB's wrapped up, but the interest is there right now, and it looked like someone else might whip out a Pz.IV GB on me. Been thinking about this one for a while, so the time is NOW!

I would love it if this were a "required GB"! I don't know how you could build armor and not want to participate in a big way.

Ernest - TWO? I'd settle for you finishing just one. 

Bish - don't hate me too much, brother.

dupes wrote:

WarHammer25 wrote: Dupes, I see that the Trumpeter Sturer Emil is in your list. I always thought it was a development of Henschel VK3001 Tiger prototype, not a Panzer IV variant. I guess I am a little confused. Funny you mention that, I've had it on my hand-written list with "???" written after it, indicating I needed to do a bit of further research. You are correct, it is indeed NOT a Pz.IV variant, and will be removed shortly!

I thought that the Sturer Emil didn't belong in this but just wanted to make sure.

This pretty much is a required GB if you build any armor.

Dupes, I have a Taimya 1/48 Panzer IV Ausf J that is semi-started but I would like to tear it down and do some mods to it like zim and some other stuff. Would this be allowed or not. It is never really made clear if the kit must be unstarted or not. I would really like to do a Dicker Max and a Hummel if I am able to as well. My budget and available time might not allow it though. 

Just a quick question to all; was there ever a Flammpanzer IV? My references only so a III, Hetzer, and a Char B1 and I think it would be cool to make a Flammpanzer IV.

I'm so in!!

DML. Panzer 4 ausf G LAH division.

dupes wrote:

I'm very glad that you guys are all fired up! I was originally planning on doing this later in '09 when some of the other GB's wrapped up, but the interest is there right now, and it looked like someone else might whip out a Pz.IV GB on me. Been thinking about this one for a while, so the time is NOW!

I'm definitely fired up about this one!  I love the Pz IV and all its variants.  The Pz. IV was the workhorse of the German Panzerwaffe and served from the beginning to the end of the war.  I also believe it was produced in greater quantities than any other German AFV (or at least any other German tank). 

dupes wrote:

Ernest - TWO? I'd settle for you finishing just one.

I just KNEW you were going to say that dupes!!!  I think I'd also settle for just one!!  BTW, have you decided which version you're going to build?  I think it would be really cool if we could get one entry for each of the Ausfuhrungs, A-J.  That would be something at the end of the GB....to see at least one of each PLUS as many of the variants as possible!!   This GB is going to be SWEEET!!!

stick man wrote:

I'm so in!! DML. Panzer 4 ausf G LAH division.

Oooh!  That's a nice kit stick man!  I built one for dupes Winter Warriors GB earlier this year and it's the nicest kit I've ever built.  Goes together like a dream, almost no putty required, accurate and detailed!  Lots of parts though!  Lots of extra parts too!!

WarHammer25 wrote:

Dupes, I have a Taimya 1/48 Panzer IV Ausf J that is semi-started but I would like to tear it down and do some mods to it like zim and some other stuff. Would this be allowed or not. It is never really made clear if the kit must be unstarted or not. I would really like to do a Dicker Max and a Hummel if I am able to as well. My budget and available time might not allow it though.  Just a quick question to all; was there ever a Flammpanzer IV? My references only so a III, Hetzer, and a Char B1 and I think it would be cool to make a Flammpanzer IV.

I should have made that more clear...this thread is still a "work in progress".

Tell you what, you have a pic or anything so I can see what "semi-started" means? In theory if you're tearing it down to do a full rework I'd think it would qualify, unless you really have a lot done already.

Have seen no references to a Flammpanzer IV...anyone else? 

bufflehead wrote:

BTW, have you decided which version you're going to build?  I think it would be really cool if we could get one entry for each of the Ausfuhrungs, A-J.  That would be something at the end of the GB....to see at least one of each PLUS as many of the variants as possible!!

I'm with you on that one! Kind of why I'm holding off to pick a kit to build, want to get as many different variants out there as possible...and I have a couple to pick from in the closet. Heh.

The tough one is going to be the A - no one kits it (to my knowledge) and it's considerable different than the B. Maybe someone with some scratchbuilding experience will jump on it. 

I am so glutting for punishment.  Count me in as well.  I have a Tamiya early H with, you guessed it.  LOTS of PE.  MMmmmm just need to find tracks and a barrel.  Might have to try my hand at zimm. 

Besides dupe, I don't hate you, but you are an evil man for thinking of this GB.  But my kind of evil.

dupes wrote:

bufflehead wrote: BTW, have you decided which version you're going to build?  I think it would be really cool if we could get one entry for each of the Ausfuhrungs, A-J.  That would be something at the end of the GB....to see at least one of each PLUS as many of the variants as possible!!   I'm with you on that one! Kind of why I'm holding off to pick a kit to build, want to get as many different variants out there as possible...and I have a couple to pick from in the closet. Heh. The tough one is going to be the A - no one kits it (to my knowledge) and it's considerable different than the B. Maybe someone with some scratchbuilding experience will jump on it.

Coree Productions produced a mixed media kit for the Ausf. A; mostly resin, with PE, maybe Friuls (?).  It's supposed to be a really nice, accurate kit, but it's out of production.  Sometimes it pops up on Ebay.  I almost put a bid in for one last month but was dissuaded by the cost....over $100!!!  At the time I couldn't justify the cost with so many other versions in the stash, but now with this GB coming up I'm regretting not getting it!

I won't even attempt to scratchbuild this one....way beyond my skills.  Plus it would take me YEARS to complete it!!

Ernest - let me see if I can come up with a summary of changes to backdate a B to an A...maybe it's not as drastic as I think. I do remember seeing the cupola (which is considerably different) and wondering if one could be had somewhere.

Moose - I'll get you on the list, you glutton for punishment.

dupes wrote:

WarHammer25 wrote: Dupes, I have a Taimya 1/48 Panzer IV Ausf J that is semi-started but I would like to tear it down and do some mods to it like zim and some other stuff. Would this be allowed or not. It is never really made clear if the kit must be unstarted or not. I would really like to do a Dicker Max and a Hummel if I am able to as well. My budget and available time might not allow it though.  Just a quick question to all; was there ever a Flammpanzer IV? My references only so a III, Hetzer, and a Char B1 and I think it would be cool to make a Flammpanzer IV. I should have made that more clear...this thread is still a "work in progress". Tell you what, you have a pic or anything so I can see what "semi-started" means? In theory if you're tearing it down to do a full rework I'd think it would qualify, unless you really have a lot done already.

Dupes,

I have the two halves joined and the turret together with a very sloppy first coat on it. A combination of the paint can nozzle not functioning properly which resulted in a really horrendous first coat of paint and my mistake in ordering zimmerit schurzen makes me want to almost do a complete rebuild of it. Nothing else is painted. The running gear is not touched as well. Some parts have fallen off and I would like to take the halves back apart to do a little work on them inside and out. I would also like to reopen some hatches and do a little more detailing. I would be stripping most of the paint off as well to apply the zim. I can post some pics later tonight if you would still like.

WarHammer25 I don't think there was a Pz IV Flamm, your best online reference would be Achtung Panzer, but i am pretty sure there wasn't.

Dupe's cause i don't hate you bro. I just have the breaking strain of a kit kat and i just can't say no to this one. But i will be joining a bit late on.