Knights of the Sky II- The End

 hey ludwig, looking very good. The decals look to have settled down very well. A great choice of red. Nice work! Looking forward to updates.

ludwig113 wrote:

after the talk of busts a few weeks ago,i stripped the one i'd started and went the bronze route.i'm not totally happy with it and will try different ways on the next one(like spraying the bronze-this one was hand painted) but i really like the idea. p.s. theres some great builds being shown here,very inspiring.

Hi Ludwig,

It looks great! 

Glad to see you had fun with my little 'bronze statue' suggestion.  How long did it take you?  Was it a weekend project?  It's a nice feeling when you get something finished in the span of only a few days, isn't it?!  Now, mount this on top of a Ken Thomas art base with a little homemade label on the computer and you've got a VERY nice desktop model. 

...I sense a whole collection coming?!?!?

Paul

www.ModelCellar.com

 

Mobious wrote:

hey ludwig, looking very good. The decals look to have settled down very well. A great choice of red. Nice work! Looking forward to updates.

thanks,i tried out a few reds but thought this standard vallejo model air colour was the closest to how i imagined it.

the decals went straight onto the paint,no future etc,only sol and set.

ModelCellar wrote:

ludwig113 wrote: after the talk of busts a few weeks ago,i stripped the one i'd started and went the bronze route.i'm not totally happy with it and will try different ways on the next one(like spraying the bronze-this one was hand painted) but i really like the idea. p.s. theres some great builds being shown here,very inspiring. Hi Ludwig, It looks great!  Glad to see you had fun with my little 'bronze statue' suggestion.  How long did it take you?  Was it a weekend project?  It's a nice feeling when you get something finished in the span of only a few days, isn't it?!  Now, mount this on top of a Ken Thomas art base with a little homemade label on the computer and you've got a VERY nice desktop model.  ...I sense a whole collection coming?!?!? Paul www.ModelCellar.com

thanks paul,

it only took a weekend.tamiya primer,humbrol bronze coat,vallejo clear coat and a light wash.and yes its great to finish something in a weekend!

as for the rest i've already put the goerth and richthofen busts together...i might try a lighter bronze on the next one,not sure yet.

the problem is,if you build all these busts you have to build the aircraft to go with them!!!

 Hey ludwig, the red looks spot on for the DRI, The bronze looks great too, guess I'll look into a set, then I'll have the problem of building the aircraft to go with them;)

ludwig- Some excellent work there!  The Dr.I is coming along very well, and that bronze statue looks quite nice indeed.  Have you given any thought to the markings on the other half of the dual combo?

Daywalker wrote:

ludwig- Some excellent work there!  The Dr.I is coming along very well, and that bronze statue looks quite nice indeed.  Have you given any thought to the markings on the other half of the dual combo?

i'm gonna do DR.1 404/17 hptm. adolf von tutschek which is in the dual combo box,just because i like the black tail and black on the wings.

i really like building the DR.1's so will be doing more in the future...................now how much would it cost to buy 160 dual combo's so i can build every single DR.1...................

Just dropped back in for an update on my two little Nieuports.....the news is bad.  If you go back about 10 pages here you'll see I was at the point of rigging being done and getting ready for final painting and the roundels on the top wings.  Then disaster!!!!  While moving the two tiny birds were dropped and the damage was most unpleasant....especially considering they were already rigged and the holes filled.  I was so horrified that I took a break and built myself a nice and easy Yak 1 (which turned out pretty well..I'll post in aircraft later).  Well I got some courage and opened up my Nieuport box again and have gotten to work.  On one the top wing completely came off (and did I mention it was rigged :( ).  Also all the detail work around the gun, and the gun itself came off.  I was able to salvage another gun and details but am having to scratchbuild one small piece.  On the other plane (Bob) a wing strut snapped and tail broke off.  Ugh, these planes were mostly weathered and fully rigged.  God only knows how bad it is in the cockpits, funny how the masking has been totally unaffected.  I'm not going to push my luck and unmask yet, I'll deal with that problem when I come to it.  Well I'll post more updates later but I'm off to go get some new superglue.

Sorry to hear about the tiny Nieuports!  Hopefully, you will be able to repair the damage to them both.

Truly sorrowful about the Nieuports.  But your skilled hands should have them back in shape in no time at all.

Frank please add two more Fokker Dr.I types to my name on the build page.  But these are DML / Dragon 1/48 kits.

Here is a bit of fun concerning 1/48 scale streaking and a further note of how to do it.  Fokker Streaked camouflage 1/48 - painted. At right the base coat is a light almond colour representing unbleached linen. At left the finished Fokker type streaked camouflage. The dark solid fields were for the crosses. It was ordered to bring the factory white fields of the pattee or iron crosses down to a narrow border. With the balkan crosses the border was at first widened then narrowed down in specific ratio later in the war. The wings were hand painted at the factory and the streaked fields varied from airframe to airframe.

Stephen- Got your builds added to page one.

Nicely done on the streaked camo.

Im sure youll all be glad to hear that i have the replacement decals for my Gotha, winging thier way from Canada, courtesy of Seargent Macneal

On a side note, Still WW1 related. Has anyone seen te films 'Flyboys' or 'The Red baron' Ive seen some clips online and the CGI looks amazing. I just wondered if anyone else has seen them, and are they any good? Ive heard that the red baron film has the ending wrong.

...Guy

Luftwoller wrote:

Im sure youll all be glad to hear that i have the replacement decals for my Gotha, winging thier way from Canada, courtesy of Seargent Macneal On a side note, Still WW1 related. Has anyone seen te films 'Flyboys' or 'The Red baron' Ive seen some clips online and the CGI looks amazing. I just wondered if anyone else has seen them, and are they any good? Ive heard that the red baron film has the ending wrong. ...Guy

if your gonna watch them just think of them as "films" , i wouldn't go quoting anything as historical fact!

Luftwoller wrote:

Im sure youll all be glad to hear that i have the replacement decals for my Gotha, winging thier way from Canada, courtesy of Seargent Macneal On a side note, Still WW1 related. Has anyone seen te films 'Flyboys' or 'The Red baron' Ive seen some clips online and the CGI looks amazing. I just wondered if anyone else has seen them, and are they any good? Ive heard that the red baron film has the ending wrong. ...Guy

Guy,

Just finished Flyboys a couple of hours ago and it is a very entertaining film.  The characters in the film are based on actual people who flew with the Escadrille, but are fictitious.  Don't know about the new Red Baron movie.  Like you, I've seen clips online but haven't seen it-don't know if it was even released in the US.  I know there was a movie about the Red Baron from the 70's that is very bad from the reviews I've read.  For those that might be interested, here's some pics of WWI aircraft I've taken in my travels.  Most were taken at Kermit Weeks Fantasy of Flight near Orlando.  The Sopwith Camel is from the Naval Air Musuem in Pensacola.  Gotta pay more attention the next time I go as I can see a D-VII and a couple of others hanging from the ceiling that I didn't even notice.  The Pup is at the Frontiers of Flight here in Dallas.  I've tried to note the replicas where I could-the DR.1 is a replica I just didn't note it.

http://public.fotki.com/lewbud/aircraft/world-war-i/ 

 

 

 Hey luftwoller, Glad to hear the Gotha is back on schedule. I started this GB with a "Tri-Decker Triple play" of movies. The Movie "Flyboys" is OK, a lot of CGI. Some exciting and interesting combat scenes that would make for a great video game. IMO not as good as production as "The Blue Max".  There are some nice shots of Nieuports though. Haven't seen "Red Baron" but looking forward to adding it to the collection.  One of my favorite WWI movies on the subject is the corny "Richtofen and Brown".  Voss's introduction of Manfred to the rest of Jasta Boelke has to be one of my favorite scripted lines. Almost as good as the Emporer Wilhelm II's World political discussion with Richtofen as he is being awarded Imperial Germany's top military honors. And the scene where the Evil Herman Goering strafes the accordian player is memorable. The finality of the "Honk" from the accoridan, sounding the death of chivalry in WWI aerial combat, is just too great. I'm nearly in tears writing about it. Enough of "Mobi's Movie Reviews", looking forward to seeing progress on the Gotha. 

 Lewbud, Nice photo's. Like the idea of pics with reference. I made my way to the USAF museum in Dayton,OH several years ago but without the camera. I took my son and nephew, we had a great time. I plan on visiting this summer w/camera.

Great photos Buddy, Very interesting. Are some of those suckers originals? I see that only some pics say replica.

Mobious, I do agree that Blue Max is a great film but ive never seen or heard of Richtofen and Brown? I may have to try to source that one . 'The red Baron' arrived today so, if you like ill do a Lufty review of that one. The only downer ive heard about it was that the ending has Brown shooting old Manfred down, and its since been proved that it was ground fire that got him. Theres also a love interest for Manny as well. Should be a laugh and itll keep SWMBO'ed sweet and me away from the bench for  night LOL.

Still no decals yet.

...Guy

 Guy, my bad. The name of the movie I reviewed is "Von Richthofen and Brown". It's an older film. Badly written, badly overacted but with dogfights, explosions, and cool WWI aircraft. Hmmm, can't be all bad! Be waitin' to read the "Lufty Review". Don't forget the popcorn. Hope the decals arrive soon.

 Mo

Mobius,

Glad you and the rest of the guys like the pics.  Got the idea to take pics of the info card at a car show a couple of years ago.  I'm pretty good with cars but I had no idea about some of the cars I was looking at so I had the idea and ran with it.  If you can swing it, don't forget the Nats are in Columbus this summer.  If you've never been to the worlds largest travelling model shop, you've got to go.  Plus the models are pretty good too.

Guy,

As far as I know, those that aren't labled replicas (with the exception of the Triplane) are originals.  If someone has some more info, I'd like to know as well.  Kermit Weeks has a fantastic facility (the cafe's pretty good too), if you're ever out near Orlando it's worth the trip. Wonder what it would cost to drive to Old Rhinebeck, then hop the pond to Duxford?  Probably falls in the category if you have to ask, you can't afford it.  It'd be one heckuva trip though.

 

Hello all,
 I'm on the finishing straight with this one... AT LAST!

Here are some pics for you. BTW, the airbrush is a dream to use and clean  :thumbsup:

Exhaust stack in place Applied crushed rust (the real stuff) mixed with klear over a NATO Black base coat. Once that cured I then sprayed 3 or 4 mist coats of  a mixture of 1 drop of Tamiya pink with 4 drops of flat white, thinned with 20 drops of tamiya thinner. This gives the effect of heat discolouration. It's subtle but effective.   


Port side view Top wing in place, buckles set in place ready for rigging, rudder dry fitted, control horns in place, markings on rudder, Black bars on fuselage and all crosses bar fuselage cross have bean masked and spayed - A note to anyone who has this kit in their stash... Do not rely on the kit decals! In short, they're rubbish. The fuselage crosses were made by me using a laser printer, adobe Illustrator and good quality clear decal paper.



Starboard view Windscreen was cut out of clear film, brackets made out of spare etched brass.  



Nearly there...
Cheers,
Bob

 Hey Bob, that's looking fantastic. Very nice work with the AB. The exhaust pipe looks the part too.

Looking good Bob!

ok,i did another udet bust(the one on the left) in a vallejo light bronze with a tamiya smoke wash.

i think it looks alot better than the one on the right as it holds more detail,the humbrol bronze clogged the detail up and the vallejo paint went on alot smoother.

My bad. I'm sorry for leaving (yet AGAIN) but other GB's have kinda detoured me. I bought some brass rod the other day, and I desperately hope to damage up the Sopwith so I can get some paint on it. The Fokker also needs another coat, as the white putty shows up under the paint. I hope to make some progress today.

ludwig113 wrote:

ok,i did another udet bust(the one on the left) in a vallejo light bronze with a tamiya smoke wash. i think it looks alot better than the one on the right as it holds more detail,the humbrol bronze clogged the detail up and the vallejo paint went on alot smoother.

 OHHHH, that's AWESOME Ludwig!!  I like that second one MUCH better. ...that looks great!

Keep 'em comin'

Paul

www.ModelCellar.com

 

 

ludwig113 wrote:

ok,i did another udet bust(the one on the left) in a vallejo light bronze with a tamiya smoke wash. . .

 

Its hard for me to choose I like the darker quality but as you say the lighter bears out more detail.

Theyre both great, i reckon. The left is very good but i think the right one pips it for me.

LUFTY's RED BARON REVIEW.

Well what can i say. The story is going to frustrate the hell out of any Red Baron biographers as the majority of the story is Manfreds love affair with the nurse that 'nursed' him back to health, and the piffling matter that the end was wrong. Richtofen was shot from the ground and not from Capt Brown. The rest of the story was a little sketchy to say the least. The other famous members of the Richtofen circus werent really introduced to the watcher, which sucked. Werner Voss being the only exception.

Then comes the full sized models and the the CGI. If you go to http://www.redbaron-themovie.com/index_en.html then to video blog no# 03 you get to see the making of these fantastic replicas. Simply awesome stuff. And that brings me to the CGI. There is too little...Far too little. But what there is just blows you away. Id watch the dross again just for the CGI lol. A bit like Pearl Harbor.

Lufty Rating....A bunch of Horses Ar$E. (But id watch it again tomorrow lol)

...Guy

All,

Just catching up again since my last visit.  Some really cool postings along the way! I have started decalling my Hansa-Brandenburg, and am a little disapointed with their thickness and colors, but I am determined to finish.  I am off tomorrow, and will try to mke some more head way.  The floats do not want to align properly with the fuselage, so I will be fiddling with that for a while I fear.

Stephen,

How are you doing your streaking?  The last Dr.1 that I built, I used a brush 1/16 inch wide and thinned olive drab paint in a rather wet drybrush effort.  The 1/16 inch brush (I think it was a #1) was in line with the 3 inch brush used on the real planes.

Ludwig,

Both busts turned out nicely.  I think I like the von Richthofen bust a little more, but the Udet does look nice as well.

ludwig- Excellent job on the busts!  I also find it hard to pick out which I like better, and they both have certain qualities I like.

Alright an update on the Nieuports.  I found some old pictures in the camera from before the crushing event.  Here they are:

First The Belgian with a little weathering going.  Used pastel powder (dark grey) to shade the recessed areas around panel line, behind cockpit and around wing roots.  Then used a little dot filtering with oils (thank you armor building for this idea) to create very subtle streaks that I could see on pictures from the era.

Here are two pics of Bob and The Belgian post initial weathering.

Next was getting the top wings on.  Wing tops were preshaded and mostly painted at time of install (I would do this masking and paiting post rigging next time even though it would be a little more delicate).  They are also rigged when these pics were taken.

And finally the two side by side shortly before getting rigged and then smashed

Now the good news................I've rebuilt them both!!!!!  Bad news is that they lost a little of that which really gooded look in the process. Think I have covered up some of the worst issues, but you can still see little things upon close inspection.  I'll post pictures soon. 

Well Frank I have not been able to do much building latetly due to a bad illness but I have managed to get some thing done. Tackled my first attempt at lozenge decals, think I goofed it a bit but I am overal happy with my first attemp I also managed to assemble the cockpit and close up the fuselage and primer it. Found a couple of spots to touch up. Here where I am at so far.

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