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Knights of the Sky II- The End

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Posted by Mobious on Monday, July 20, 2009 12:48 PM
 Hey Daywalker, Just getting ready to rig the controls on the EV. Might as well put me down for a DVII too. I may try building a Belgian AF Hanriot too, If time permits.

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Posted by ModelCellar on Monday, July 20, 2009 4:11 PM

Hello to all the talented WWI aircraft builders here,

Your talents never cease to amaze me.  Once again I am in awe of the incredibly detailed builds I see on here.  I only WISH that I could come somewhere even close...

The Model Callar has just released a set of new 1/32 figures to accessorize all these great builds:

1/32 scale Manfred von Richthofen (with Moritz) and brother Lothar.  They are sold separately or together as a combo kit.  Sculpted by Mike Good, the detail is clean and crisp right down to the Pour le Merite and the Airman's badge.  ...plus a fantastic rendition of Moritz!  

Hope you like them,

regards,

Paul

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Posted by Bobs Buckles on Monday, July 20, 2009 4:20 PM

Mo,

Loving the Razor. Please let me know if you spray or brush on the future. If airbrush, what pressure and how far from the subject do you spray? Looks very good.

Cheers,

Von Buckle Smile [:)]

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Posted by Mobious on Monday, July 20, 2009 5:08 PM

 Bob, I spray a 50/50 mix, 20-25lbs AP at about 10-12" distance(sorry no conversions). I use the light reflection to get uniform coverage. Something I picked up from Frank, Our Squadron Leader!

 

 

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 20, 2009 6:06 PM

Mo- What are you cutting your Future with?  I usually spray it undiluted (with a drop of dish soap to break the tension).  Mine never looks as good as yours, you must have found an even better way!

I added the D.VII to the list for you, let me know on the Hanriot. Wink [;)]

Paul- Those really are some amazing figures! 

Frank 

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, July 20, 2009 6:48 PM
Ok, I need help. I have started to string the rigging through the body like the instructions say but they are so HORRIBLE I cant tell what goes through what hole, there are holes in the instructions where there are none on the kit and visa versa.  I dunno what to do, I dont wana put the rigging through, seal the body then have it in wrong.

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 20, 2009 10:09 PM
Smeagol- Some of those photos of the Camel at the Imperial War Museum have some great close-ups of the rigging, hth! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:27 AM

 Hey Frank, I cut Future with tap water from the well, same as all the acrylics I use.  

 Smeagol, Take your time and study reference photos. You may want to consider marking the rigging holes on the instruction sheet, then checking them off as they're drilled. Important thing is to plan and get the holes in first. I'm no expert, just trying to help out. I usually run the rigging after the fuselage halves have been joined. May not be the best way, but it works for me. HTH

 Frank, The E.V. took to the skies over the bunker. I dropped it. Luckily for me only the MG needed repair. Here are a few photo's of the Eduard Fokker E.V. built OOB.

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"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:30 AM

Im going to admit something...  <stands up at the podium> My name is Steven, and im a moron.

The holes were already drilled, where the rigging was coming out of the holes was the problem, from what hole to what hole they were stretched over on the inside.  Its only just now that I realise that as long as its coming out of the hole... it doesnt matter at all whats on the inside, so yea, im a moron.

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:28 AM

Mo- Cut it with tap water?  Wow, sounds so simple, and certainly effective!  Another beauty from your bench, always a pleasure to see your work.  Especially on an E.V- my favorite WWI kite. Bow [bow]  Well done!

Steven- LOL, no worries!  Glad you got it sorted out.  Looks like you are making excellent progress on yours too. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:29 AM

 Frank, Thanks for the commments, they are greatly appreciated. I liked the E.V that you'd built for KOTS I, so much, that I picked one up. I wasn't disappointed. I enjoyed this build very much. It was satisfying to finally get a lozenged aircraft together, looking forward to starting the DVII, Soon.

 Steve, looking forward to seeing the Camel progress.

 

 

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:56 PM

Stunning build, Mobious. Ive never seen one built up before, and yours is just scrummy. Stephen you eluded to the fact that they may have actually fought? Pray tell us some more.

...Guy

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Posted by Mobious on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:09 PM

 Hey Guy, thanks for the comments, they are appreciated. I looked up the DVIII on Wikipedia and the article states that a DVIII scored the last aerial victory of WWI, and that Erich Lowenhardt also piloted one, scored a couple victories in it, but preferred the DVII. The article also goes into more detail as to the wing failures of the E.V. A good article and worth a look.

 Thanks again for the comments and checking in.

 Mo

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:28 PM
Thanks for sharing that info Mo, knew about the E.V wing failures but not about the D.VIII scoring the last victory in WWI.  Looking forward to seeing your D.VII! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:50 PM

Most of the records invovled only take into account victories that were confirmed during the war itself.  The truth is victory confirmations were still being tallied a year after the war ended and most records don't include the Marine Feld Jastas. They were tallied separately.

Here is a quiz for you.  What is the "Nachrichtenblatt der Luftstreitekrafte?"

Scotty, I had a slight delay sending out the book but it will be on its way tomorrow.

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:46 PM

Lets see my German is rusty and the Germans have always loved stringing several words together making one big new word but I think it means. Night control wing air strike battle or something close to that. I guess in plane english the land air power. I have never heard the exact term though. I am guessing it was the name of the Germanair force. Do I win a banana?

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Posted by Mobious on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:15 PM
 Hey SC, last time I broke into the German-English translation book, I dropped it and mashed my Focke-Wulf 190 and busted one of the landing gear. I was gonna guess Night-something-something-attack-something-something-Airships. I'll not be gettin a nanner with an answer like that. LOL

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:57 PM

Mobious I thought the first part of the word was night at first glance but it is not nacht which is night but nach which means after or later. It is so hard to translate because they love to jam two or three words together and make up new words. Probally why they lost the war twice because they probally could not even understand themselves because of all of these crazy made up words!

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Posted by Bobs Buckles on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:24 AM

Mo,

Cheers for the info. I will try cutting future with distilled water Smile [:)]

Frank,

Thanks for the nice feedback on eBay. I can't beleive how quick the wee buckles got to you. Cheers! Wink [;)]

Bob

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:29 AM
My pleasure Bob!  Those really are some nice looking buckles, can't believe how tiny they are!  When I first looked at the baggie, I thought there was nothing in there! Shock [:O]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:55 AM

 Stephen, After Action reports of the Air force?

 Bob, looking forward to seeing progress on the LVG. That kit looks awesome.

 Mo

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by StephenLawson on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:29 PM

 StephenLawson wrote:
". . .Here is a quiz for you.  What is the 'Nachrichtenblatt der Luftstreitekrafte?'. . ."

 Mobious wrote:
Stephen, After Action reports of the Air force? . . .Mo"

Excellent Mobious!  For anyone studying First World War aviation this bi-weekly military issued newspaper from the German air service headquarters is a must have item and the basis for thorough research on the subject of German aviation activity.   It ran from early 1917 to mid 1918.

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:22 PM
I checked out all the links that were given to me but what I needed wasnt there, does anyone have any good shots of just the rigging on the tail of the plane?

 

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Posted by Mobious on Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:23 PM
 A PM set to ya smeagol.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:54 PM
I'm gona have to drop out, this kit is to old for me to build at my skill level.  I tried to put the top wing on, none of the posts lined up correctly, they wernt possitioned correctly nor did they have the right angle.  They were also to thin to hold up the top wing, which was almost as heavy as the entire rest of the kit (making it imposibly to keep in place while the glue dried)

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, July 24, 2009 2:58 AM
 StephenLawson wrote:

 StephenLawson wrote:
". . .Here is a quiz for you.  What is the 'Nachrichtenblatt der Luftstreitekrafte?'. . ."

 Mobious wrote:
Stephen, After Action reports of the Air force? . . .Mo"

Excellent Mobious!  For anyone studying First World War aviation this bi-weekly military issued newspaper from the German air service headquarters is a must have item and the basis for thorough research on the subject of German aviation activity.   It ran from early 1917 to mid 1918.

Geez, lucky i held back with my answer. I thought it was a film, that i may or may not have watched, containing NEKID people!!

Mobious, what are you saying? Above your skill level? Never say never, just put it back in the box and come back to it at a later date. You have some serious skill my friend, your prolly just in the wrong frame of mind. I have several kits waiting for my re-attention. Remember my Gotha? The decals on that thing gave me nightmares. Ill come back to it soon, you mark my words.

...Guy

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Posted by Mobious on Friday, July 24, 2009 6:02 AM

 Guy, LOL! What an answer. LOL.

 Thanks for the comments, I was terrified of the decals, and to start things off, I'd placed the pit decals on the wrong sides. 

 The postman rang twice. And dropped this off at the doorstep.

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  Yes, I remember the Gotha, and I'll consider your words marked. I'm looking forward to seeing that Gotha completed. One of my favorite scenes in the movie "Flyboys" is the Nieuport 17 attack on the German Gotha bombers. Have you found any decals for it?

 Mo

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by More Power Scotty on Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:21 PM

Stephen,

No rush, and I will let you know when it arrives.

Frank,

My next offering for this group will be the Eduard Weekend Edition Fokker E.V in 1/48 scale. I want to finish a project on my bench before I begin, but it should commence sometime this next week.

Scott
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:50 PM

Steven- I hope you were able to get the images you need, and will stay here building with us!  I shall keep your name on the roster unless you ask me to remove it.

Scott- Got it!  I added the E.V to your list. Wink [;)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, July 27, 2009 12:07 PM

 smeagol the vile wrote:
Ok, I need help. I have started to string the rigging through the body like the instructions say but they are so HORRIBLE I cant tell what goes through what hole, there are holes in the instructions where there are none on the kit and visa versa.  I dunno what to do, I dont wana put the rigging through, seal the body then have it in wrong.

We are talking an F.1 or a 2F.1?

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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