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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:53 PM
Way to go Stephen, now you have all of us drooling!  That Albatros looks like one I will have to get my hands on.  Any ideas when they will be available for sale?

Frank 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:57 AM

 Hey Stephen, That's quite a line up. Very impressive looking collection.

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by StephenLawson on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:21 AM

Thanks folks.

I have been in touch with Richard Alexander GM of WNW and there is a release date.  But they are keeping it mum for now.  Here is a bit of fun on the subject especially the Fok. D.VII.

scroll to the bottom.

 

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Posted by More Power Scotty on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:51 AM

Stephen,

Those 1/32 scale planes certainly look nice, and BIG.  I am hoping that they will have some representation at the Nationals next week!

I did want to publicly thank you for the book as it arrived last Saturday.  Being an Osprey book, it is up to their normal high standards.

Frank,

The Eduard Fokker E.V is progressing slowly (it is cycling season here in that state up north), but I did get a couple of photos of the now finished cockpit as I am hoping to make some progress yet this week, even with a cycling event on Sunday.  I will post the pictures as soon as I get them downloaded.

Scott
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Posted by StephenLawson on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:59 PM

 More Power Scotty wrote:
"Stephen. . .I did want to publicly thank you for the book as it arrived last Saturday.  Being an Osprey book, it is up to their normal high standards. . . "

Frank,

No worries Frank!  I am glad all is well.  Be safe.

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:04 PM

I guess its time for me to announce my next build.  Looks like its the Eduard kit 8043 , the most recent issue of their 1/48  Roland C.II kit.  I have reviewed previous issues of this kit so all I have to do is follow my own  write up.

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:09 PM

Scott- I am looking forward to seeing those pics! Big Smile [:D]

Stephen- I added your Roland to the list on page 1. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:50 AM

Daywalker
  ". . .Stephen- I added your Roland to the list on page 1." [tup]

I guess I better get on the job then.

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:51 PM

Stephen, looks like your making a great start. The wallfish is a wierdo for sure. What was the reason for the scales? Do you have any period pics of the plane?

...Guy

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Posted by StephenLawson on Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:39 PM

 Luftwoller wrote:
Stephen, looks like your making a great start. The wallfish is a wierdo for sure. What was the reason for the scales? Do you have any period pics of the plane? ...Guy

Period pics - certainly I have a few that were not in the Datafiles.  The fish scales like the simulated curtains in the windows were affectations adopted by the crews.  The Roland C.II was nicknamed "Walfisch or Whale.  The was a reference to Jonah & the whale from the KJV Bible.   The crew inhabited the deep fuselage that was illuminated by the cellon side windows. As though they lived in the whale.

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 14, 2009 4:43 PM

Hi Stephen, i did a quick search on Google for the Walfish and only came up with the sky blue coloured plane and none with the scales. Do you have any reference pics wit the scales. Id love to see them.

...Guy

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Posted by StephenLawson on Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:24 AM

Greetings Guy; First I would suggest the Datafile. It will be the best source with the captions  loaded with information. 

I just finished reviewing the kit.  This is my second look at the plastic sprues of this Eduard 1/48 kit of the Fokker E.V.  Though it is an all plastic kit in this issue and meant to target the average modeler is is mantled with a hyothetical colour scheme that has one foot in reality. This profile is supposed to represent the Fokker E.V flown by Theo Osterkamp, Marine Feld Jagdstaffel II, Belgium, 1918.  The most notable change in the mold seems to be that the PP#2 that had the cupped wing surface effect from the first pressing is gone from this section issue. Also the cockpit framing seems a bit more inscale from what I remember.  They also still recommend the outdated solid olive wing colour.

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, August 17, 2009 1:42 PM

I have discovered the secret of the ancient method of modeling used in Europe since the days that man first discovered fire!

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, August 17, 2009 1:47 PM

 Luftwoller wrote:
"Hi Stephen, i did a quick search on Google for the Walfish and only came up with the sky blue coloured plane and none with the scales. Do you have any reference pics wit the scales. Id love to see them. . .Guy"

 

Here you go Guy try this

And this

 

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Posted by Mobious on Monday, August 17, 2009 11:52 PM

 Hey Stephen, crazy stuff those Europeans are doin with matchscticks. That wicker seat really looks cool, just don't apply any electricity to it. Seriously, that is some awesome stuff.

 Hey daywalker, I finished the Fokker DVII (Alb). It wasn't the Eduard kit, it's the Roden 1/48 built from the box(excluding the pilot's harness). Painted in the colors of Jasta 40, Lt d R Willi Rosenstien's aircraft.

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 Had a little trouble getting the Mercedes DIII au down on the mounts. The radiator ended up setting a little forward of the lower pan. This was filled with .060" x.010" and sanded flush. A stitch seam was also added to the keel by adding 2 strips of .020" x.010" styrene.

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 IMO, the Roden kit was fun, although there were some minor fit issues, I did like the option of removing the engine sheet metal, and the personal marking options were a plus too. The lozenge colors are a bit whacky, but went on ok, given a lot of time to soak. 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:45 AM

Stephen- LOL, great pics!  Are tose PE photos from the Polish forums?  I remember seeing some similar ones there a while back. Thumbs Up [tup]

Mo- Sorry!  I corrected and updated page 1 with your newest masterpiece, YOWZA!!!  Excellent work as always, love the look of this one.  Very fine work indeed. Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:26 PM

 Thanks Daywalker, your words are much too kind. I was a little disappointed that there wasn't enough contrast between the colors used on the fuselage sides for the highlights of the framework. Still have a couple of months left on the GB, I've been considering the Eduard DVII Alb, painted in the colors of another Jasta 40 ace, CO Carl Dagelow, who was good freinds and flying partner with Rosenstein. I might be developing an addiction to lozenge covered aircraft. I've got a lovely set of Microsculpt decals waiting for an Albatros DVa too.Approve [^]

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:31 PM
Mo- I really like this one, has that dingy look that just looks, well- RIGHT. Approve [^]  Say the word, and I'll add another one toy uor list on page 1! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:22 AM

Originally I showed the plastic instrument panel but here I show the PE installation.

 

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Posted by Mobious on Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:03 AM

 Daywalker wrote:
  Say the word, and I'll add another one toy on page 1! Big Smile [:D]

 Daywalker, I've sarted on the Hanriot HD1, The pit is painted and the fuselage halves have been joined. Need to locate all the rigging attachment points, and drill them. I also thinned the trailing edges of the wings. I haven't found any reference photos to rigging the elevator control cables and the instructions don't show them.

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:22 AM

Mobious, that looks fantastic. I just love the dark look of the plane. Very forboding. Sort of unassuming compared to the flying circus lot.

Stephen, thanks for the links, Great stuff. The wally looks like its coming along fine.

...Guy

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Posted by StephenLawson on Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:09 PM
 Mobious wrote:

 Hey Stephen, crazy stuff those Europeans are doin with matchscticks. That wicker seat really looks cool, just don't apply any electricity to it. Seriously, that is some awesome stuff.

 Hey daywalker, I finished the Fokker DVII (Alb). It wasn't the Eduard kit, it's the Roden 1/48 built from the box(excluding the pilot's harness). Painted in the colors of Jasta 40, Lt d R Willi Rosenstien's aircraft.

DSC_0002

DSC_0003

 Had a little trouble getting the Mercedes DIII au down on the mounts. The radiator ended up setting a little forward of the lower pan. This was filled with .060" x.010" and sanded flush. A stitch seam was also added to the keel by adding 2 strips of .020" x.010" styrene.

DSC_0007

DSC_0005

DSC_0006

 IMO, the Roden kit was fun, although there were some minor fit issues, I did like the option of removing the engine sheet metal, and the personal marking options were a plus too. The lozenge colors are a bit whacky, but went on ok, given a lot of time to soak. 

 

Excellent finish Mobious!

 

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Posted by Mobious on Friday, August 21, 2009 10:39 AM

 Thanks Guy, I had to tone the lozenge decals down a bit, there's some mighty brightyCool [8D] baby blues in the mix.

 Stephen, Thanks for the comments. I've been reading the Osprey book DVII Aces part 1, and find it very interesting. The number of pilots who became aces with the introduction of the DVII, and  those who's score excelled. The Young Guns of JG II in particular. The reason for the fuselage colors of Jasta 15's aircraft. Very cool reading. If I'm not mistaken pt 2 introduces the Marine Jasta's, with several EV/DVIII period photo's.

  I've made a little progress on the Hanriot. The rib tape, the shadow lines, and the aluminum sections have been painted. Not sure how much I'll get finished over the week end. 

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Posted by Mobious on Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:28 PM

 A Hanriot update, Sorry no photo's. the mem card is full of photo's from my son's wedding. I had no idea that many pictures could be taken. I tried a different approach to masking over acrylics. I used a laquer gloss coat and everything worked as planned. No lifting with crisp edges. The lower wings were painted with red and green on the outside 1/3 of the wing for air recognition. The upper wing has been set and the wing rigging has been installed with monofilament line. I'm looking to try something different for the rigging. On the next build I'll try the invisible thread. I didn't have any at the time. Hope to have photo's up soon.

 Mo

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:04 PM

STILL no pics?  I want pics!!! Tongue [:P]

Sorry Mo, I just excited to see your progress. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, August 24, 2009 5:44 AM

Here is a bit of fun on completing the interior.

 

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, August 24, 2009 5:45 AM

A bit further along here.

Care in getting the cales pointed in the right directs is needed here.

These last bottom two images have been adjusted to get closer to the actual colour of the lt. blue.

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, August 24, 2009 8:32 AM

Great stuff Stephen. Im sure with those huge windows in the side all the the work on the inside should be fairly visible.

I have a question. Were the scales on a printed fabric? Seems unlikely and more probably painted by the ground crew. If so it seems a little strange that the eyes and mouth are..err...a bit bland! Id have gone to town on the thing after the effort doing the scales.

...Guy

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Posted by StephenLawson on Monday, August 24, 2009 12:49 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Great stuff Stephen. Im sure with those huge windows in the side all the the work on the inside should be fairly visible.

I have a question. Were the scales on a printed fabric? Seems unlikely and more probably painted by the ground crew. If so it seems a little strange that the eyes and mouth are..err...a bit bland! Id have gone to town on the thing after the effort doing the scales.

...Guy

Greetings Guy;

Scales were not printed fabric.  They were hand painted by crew.  This scheme was from FFA 5b.  The unit was evidently halved into "A" detachment and "B" detachment.  Too early in the war for the Bavarian nomiclature.  The early LFG Rolands came from the factory in the pale blue.  Several of these had what we call the "shark's mouth".  Since the Whale had no teeth some applications were bland.  Although some especially at both frontline and training units had more teeth like a shark or pirhana.

 

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Posted by Mobious on Monday, August 24, 2009 3:35 PM
Stephen, the Roland is looking great.  A very unique aircraft.  Were these the mainstay of the German 2 seater/observation AC?

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