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Regia Aeronautica GB II (06/15/09 to 06/15/10)

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:59 PM
DOH... how did you know about the point on my head?!?!?!? Confused [%-)]  Baseball bat in the head when I was five left a nasty bump... Whistling [:-^]

Dave

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Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:03 PM
O I have it you can refer to me as the " Second Hand Intestinal Tooter!"  Wife calls me the acronyme all day long! Shock [:O]Black Eye [B)]
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Posted by Summit on Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:05 PM

Dave - I awoke to several inches of the white landscaping myself. I was not sure who to blame but I knew as soon as the Wife ventured out to the mailbox. There was a Parcel from Wisconsin so surely that must be where it came from. Thats my theroy and I am sticking to it.

PS Roy called this morning and wanted everyone to know he is fine but his Computer needs to go to the Free Clinic as it has several Virus' Shock [:O] He will be offline for awhile more.

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, April 2, 2009 5:05 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
Been quiet around here anyone working on anything or we just singing campfire songs?

Yep!  Working on two Corsairs and two Me-109s. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, April 2, 2009 5:07 PM
 Summit wrote:

There was a Parcel from Wisconsin so surely that must be where it came from. Thats my theroy and I am sticking to it.

LOL, prolly right!  It's still Dave's fault though. Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, April 2, 2009 5:39 PM

Aaron, not sure how I went from talking about Guy to calling you a Gas Passer... must have been a freudian thing!  Whistling [:-^]

Sean, Aha... I knew Frank was to blame.  Send the parcel back to him and tell him to keep his snow! Grumpy [|(]Wink [;)]

Currently trying to finish my NAW Corsair and then I'm going to get going on my Corvette.  Neither of which qualify for this GB.  Sad [:(]  Corvette is going to take awhile so not sure I'll get to the Ca 311 until after the deadline.  Maybe I can throw in a 202/205 when I'm ready for a break from the Corvette.  We'll see.

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Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, April 2, 2009 5:50 PM

 Oh well Freudian thing. My flatulance must be to some repressed memory of my mother's cooking.  I dunno?   Sounds like some exciting projects. I have been punching away trying to get an acceptable Bombbay build for the Ventura. Hopefully by weeks end if I am lucky I'll have something descent to show.  Took 2 days on just the goofy doors. Even trying to scratch some PE detail as I know no other way to represent  some of the stuff there.  Oh well that's the fun part. 

Frank 109 's and Corsairs? you have gone from twins to quintuplets! Shock [:O]

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:18 PM
 razordws wrote:

Sean, Aha... I knew Frank was to blame.  Send the parcel back to him and tell him to keep his snow! Grumpy [|(]Wink [;)]

AHA!  Now Dave is trying to blame me for things.  Looks like the **** has rolled all of the way downhill! Grumpy [|(] LOL

No worries Dave, I'll be right here building in OT with you.

Aaron- What next?  Maybe an entire squadron at once! Shock [:O]  Yeah, right... would take me years to finish. Sigh [sigh]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, April 3, 2009 4:31 AM

Snow? Who got snow? Not us in Blighty. Slovely here. As for the Singing contest, the winer is.....wait for it, wait for it.......Bondo!!! The Eskimo ditty was well funny. We could all learn by the immortal words..'Dont eat yellow snow' Didnt they eat it on Jackass? or did i dream that.

As for Blow holes. Aaron, yours sounds like a wrotter for sure. Dave, dont worry, ill try to put Big E off for a while. He has shed loads of stuff on the go at the mo anyhoo. And knowing his build rate, he might get round to building the Turd..err..i mean Thud by 2010.

I havent been at the bench in a couple of days but ive made a start on the Dewoitine's cockpit. When it looks a little more photogenic ill post a piccy or 2.

Aaron, did Big E send you a copy of our newsletter?

...Guy

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, April 3, 2009 4:47 AM
 Haven't seen it yet bug boy! Guess he only has eyes for you LOL!  Hey have you ever posted your pics of the SM-79 here?  Wouldn't mind seeing that again.
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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, April 3, 2009 10:52 AM

I played Gooseberry to him and his wife today at the Cinema. And he paid. Aah, im loved.

Heres the link to the SM.79. Remember to say how ace I am and how much youd have longed to be my son,

/forums/1040549/ShowPost.aspx

...Guy

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, April 3, 2009 5:19 PM

As promised here is where im at with the Dewoitine. The general shape of the plane and its detail is great, really great. Plenty of fine detail and fine panel lines. Its great but the problem starts with the pit. It has very little detail and the basic shape is wrong as well. So with Aaron as my inspiration, i put Swann morton to styrene. Heres what the original floor looked like,

Pretty poor. I didnt take a before picture of the seat, but i thinned it right down and added the seat frame and supports. Heres the start of the altered pit,

Im using the Eduard Zoom set for the Tamiya kit. It should be fine as theres nothing huge in it apart from the IP, talking of which. Here it is. The real IP was painted Black chrome, so i painted it semi gloss black. I then gave it a light drybrushing of silver. I used the etched set sandwiched instruments. All in all it looks ok to me,

Next up i have to attack the fuz sides. The ribbing is a bit on the large side but i think it wont show too badly.

Ill see and may attack that later.

More soon, im in the zone. LOL

...Guy

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, April 4, 2009 2:06 AM

Thank you, Frank Zappa.

Why hasn't Bondo built anything? Because he runs a secret workshop of course!

What are the latest secret projects?

Nam's PBY-5A.

After that? The Cant 501 ? Oh no, it's a project called Guisseppe.

Latest meeting in the model shop of horrors.

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, April 4, 2009 3:41 AM

Nice pic Bondo. There seems to be a recurring theme with the photos you post of you and 'The Family'...You stuffing your pie hole LOL. Either the food is very good, or youve got worms! LOL.

...Guy

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, April 4, 2009 8:44 AM

Guy - Fantastic workmanship on the altered pit. The seat framing really jumps out and grabs attention.  Thumbs Up [tup] The gauges on the IP look very real..Great to see a new project on the gb.

Bondo - I dont know what you are eating but it has made me hungry this am..Dinner [dinner]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:45 AM

Well ive been cracking on with the pit and its not coming along too bad. Using several good refs that i pilfered from google, this is what i came up with,

Heres what the originals looked like,

Painty painty, chippy weathery, Voila,

Then low and behold, it actually fitted in the fuz. The pics are a little off but you get the gist,

Let the fuz glue set then its onto the next stage. Ive already cut out the windscreen and futured it.

...Guy

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Posted by razordws on Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:50 AM
All I can say Guy is WOW!!!  I'm always impressed with the speed and quality of your work.  Is that solder wire your using for the piping?

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, April 4, 2009 2:59 PM

 razordws wrote:
All I can say Guy is WOW!!!  I'm always impressed with the speed and quality of your work.  Is that solder wire your using for the piping?

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Now THAT is some awe-inspiring work. Bow [bow]

You may not believe this... but I actually painted the spinners today! Party [party]

Frank 

 

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Posted by telsono on Saturday, April 4, 2009 3:22 PM

A few years ago someone posted this 2 part interview with one of Italy's top aces, Luigi Gorrini, on another forum. I thought you might appreciate it. This is part one

Here is the interview with Luigi Gorrini, the highest scoring Italian ace who survived the war, along with Franco Bordoni Bisleri: each had 19 victories.

Part I

Q. Where were you on June 10th, 1940? (i.e., the day when Mussolini declared war to France and Great Britain)
A. On June 10th, 1940, there was the feeling that something was going on. I was based at the airport of Mondovì with the 18th Group of the 3rd Fighter Wing that was at Mirafiori (near Turin), where we get back to arm the airplanes. From there, my Squadron flew to Novi Ligure, then to Albenga (both in Liguria) in order to be set against French. That was one of the best airports since its stripe was made by concrete, while the other airports were just grass. I was in Albenga when Mussolini made that famous speech and just after it there was an air alarm over Genova.
Q. Which kind aircraft had you?
A. We had the FIAT CR.42, at that time an already obsolete machine, super-obsolete. A fabric covered biplane, without armor, without radio, with malfunctioning oxygen plants. It was a very good airplane in terms of maneuverability, armed with two effective 12.7 mm machine guns, but if you just think to the eight 7.7 millimeters of the Spits and Hurricanes...
There were some combats: we went to strafe their airports, near Toulon. The first strafing went wrong: it was weird, since we managed to reach the objective, find all their aircraft, strafe them, but nobody could confirm that we could set any fire on. We thought our bullets were defective and, once back, we did a test: with an airplane we shot a gasoline can, which immediately took fore. Then the reckon certified that we had just shot some fake aircrafts, they had us. But the day after we had them: we pounced another airport at 12 pm o'clock, two Squadrons up to cover us while strafing. There was a tough combat, luckily only three or four of their Dewoitine 520 could take off: they shot down two of us, two wingmen of the group commander, Major Mossilla, already a commander of the strafing squadrons during Spain's War [those bearing the symbol with three white arrows on a black "fascio" and the writing "Ocio che te copo" ("Watch out, I'm killing you" in Venetian dialect)].
Q. What was the general feeling, how was morale when entering the war?
A. Morale was very high. We also believed our planes were good, but when we saw what our enemy had, I mean those French Dewoitine and Morane, we had to change our mind. Later on I could better know those machines, when I went to France to get some of their airplanes that remained to the Vichy Government (we ran short of ours and we needed everything). It was like comparing a tricycle to a Ferrari...
Q. In which condition was the Regia Aeronautica (the Italian Royal Air Force)?
A. At the beginning of the war we had two kinds of airplanes: the CR.42 by FIAT, a biplane, and the Macchi MC.200, a boring nose-plane (?? I believe it's a dialectal expression, maybe means tricky to fly?), on the first models if you tightened (your turn) too much you started a spin; but it was a good monoplane that could adapt very well. However, we knew and we were told that the 200 and the 202, also by Macchi, were available. FIAT had a big order for CR42 production... I believe they keep producing it until the end of the war... Macchi could do better.
Q. And the FIAT G.50?
A. The FIAT G.50 was a monoplane, very tricky (?)... it made many victims and when it came out it was already obsolete. A strange machine, you had to be very careful on landing and take-off. However, we believed we were going to win the war... instead, later on... Look, the only competitive aircraft we had was the Macchi MC.202 and in particular the 205: with this one we could stand Spitfires, Hurricanes and even the Americans with their Mustang, during the time of the Repubblica Sociale. Of course the Mustang was superior, since already at 10,000 meters the controls on the 205 became insensitive. Maybe the best one of ours was the FIAT G.55, with this one you could also climb to 10,000 meters, but they produced really little numbers of that one.
Q. Let's go back to the first impact with French aircraft. What did you feel?
A. I have to say that France was really disbanded... but I was a rookie, I joined the air force in 1937 and I arrived at my group on the first months of 1939. I was the last arrived of my squadron, thus green in war matters. However, there were with me some pilots who did the Spanish war, and that was pretty lucky since the squadron commander assigned me to two of these veterans; each squadron had its own acrobatic group. And that was the reason why Sen. Sgt. Tullio Bortolotti was assigned to me as acrobatic instructor and Sen. Sgt. Rozzi, today a General, as war instructor. We simulated flight pursuits. I own to him, a Spain veteran and a member of the famous Cucaracha squadron, a lot of precious teaching.
Q. But what did you think of the enemy you had in front of you?
A. During the first combats in France... I just could not fire. To me, that guy who was in front of me did nothing bad; all along the war I always tried not to shoot to the cockpit where the pilot was, but I rather tried to shot the airplane, the machine. Of course I had to wake up, since nobody was playing there: have a look at those pictures... a cannon shot on the 205 almost got me in the head, luckily that there was a defensive armor, it was a 20 mm cannon... Well, in France, the first time I had the aircraft in front of me I couldn't make myself open fire. At a certain point the commander, Major Ussilla, get beside me and did what I was supposed to do. Then, once we landed, he shouted at me: "What the **** you were waiting for? If you have to make war that way, you'd better stay on ground!" However, to shot another person...
But I can say I witnessed some terrible episodes by our enemies: strafing on our shot down pilots while they were descending by parachute. In these cases I went down, I followed the enemies while they were descending, I even dropped them my water bottle... they were men like myself. However, for me everything was new, while the veterans from the Spanish war were much smarter.
Q. War goes on and becomes harsh. What happened after France campaign?
A. When we finished in France we went back to Mirafiori; there were strange news coming from Africa. Because, you see, if we were on ground on national territory, there in Africa they were litteraly underground: they had some CR.42, still those of the Spanish war, some AB1, some Breda 64 and 65, they were doing some strafing... to support the situation in Africa, a group of 50 airplanes of our wing was sent to Libya. The transfer was uneventful and we could immediately go back to Italy where we were delivered some new FIAT CR.42: brand new, but still identical to the old ones, that is without armor. We, the pilots, we had to arrange some little devices: one of them was to fill the luggage compartment that was behind our head, that one for our personal belongings, with a sandbag that could stop the bullets. Warrant Off. Sozzi saved my life in the sky over England. I had that Spit behind and I didn't see it and he throw himself between me and the Spit... and he took all the shots.
A bullet perforated his lungs, but he managed to cross, wounded, the English Channel and to land at Calais... the Germans recovered him immediately. Sozzi was proposed for the gold medal by General Fusi, the head of the expedition. I saw him some time later and asked him about that. "And so?" ... "Eh, I got the medal, but a silver one. You know, my ranks are here" (showing his shoulder where non-commissioned officers had their ranks). There was a bias for attributing medals to non-commissioned officers: they needed at least two witnesses during the flight. Conversely, officers came back, told their story... and were believed on their honor. But for myself, even if I was a non-commissioned officer, everything id OK: reports, proofs, prisoners. I have shot down 24 aircrafts by myself! No counting those which I have contributed to shot down with other people or those destroyed on ground... An officer could go back to his base, affirm that he shot down an airplane and that was a silver medal. I shot down 19 airplanes before September 8th, I had the right to get 3 silver medals that were transformed in a golden one.
Q. Did you also participate to the Battle of Britain?
A. As I was telling you, after coming back from our transfer in Africa, we got our new CR.42: no armor, malfunctioning oxygen plants, navy life jackets that were too big and impaired our movements. We departed from Turin and landed in Munich were we refueled. I remember it was snowing. From there we went to Frankfurt and then to Belgium, at Ursell, something incredible and absurd, we couldn't see the airport, even the commander was astonished.
At a certain moment we saw some pine trees moving, and some cows. It was all so well concealed that the English never managed to find that airport. There was even a big farm made of cardboard with doors and windows, inflatable rubber cows and movable pine trees that were used to hide the aircraft shelters that were also covered by nets. We were under equipped, just think that we had no heating on our aircraft, which by the way were open. We flew even when there were -30°C on ground! If we had to take-off at 11am, those poor mechanics had to hang to the propellers that couldn't make them turn, the oil being hard. Food was bad at the beginning, but then the logistic of our group arrived and things changed.
Mud everywhere. The operations were decided by the Germans, we had to escort our bombers: it was a disaster. A lot of pilots came there, some of them were just rich spoilt kids seeking for war emotions... there was such a phenomenon in Spain already. But that was not a money war, that was a lead war and English guys were not joking, they shoot for real.
We escorted bombers, but to keep them together was almost impossible: some went down because engines wouldn't work. They were BR.20, fabric covered machines too, conceived to fly light and take off from dry ground. Instead, here they were overloaded of bombs and landing stripes were muddy, and pilots lacked training. The first two mission were a disaster: Germans stopped us when they realized which kind of aircraft we had... oxygen stuck, no radio, fabric airplanes, and as the first thing they gave us some catalytic heaters to heat the engines and then, in just 48 hours, they installed additional armor. They gave us their flying suits, gloves and helmets (we still had the light ones). Honestly, all we had was just our eyes to cry with, we made war in these conditions; we even had no maps, even in Italy we carried on using the Touring Club road maps. Can you imagine with such fog? After a fight, we came back in 25, landing in 4 different nations, we couldn't see a thing but some bell towers.
I landed when I saw a landing stripe, except that it wasn't that, it was a motorway, and before me already 4 guys did the same mistake: one landed in a square in Amsterdam, Saddini and others among the trees. Two were shot down, or at least they said so, but afterwards we ascertained that they just had technical failures. The poor Salvadori, and Lazzari. One had the inward oil temperature at 120 (°C) and was scared to come back by crossing the Channel, thus he tried to land on British ground but the aircraft hit a hole and set itself vertical (there's its picture in English archives) and he was taken as a prisoner.
The other one got his compass mad. One of these aircrafts, the one of Salvadori, is in the Imperial War Museum. Giuntella, Rozzin, Lolli, Guglielmetti. Grillo, Mazza, we lost all of them, plus some others, but not Lazzari and Salvadori. In the middle of the winter we were ordered to go back, and meanwhile the FIAT G.50 arrived, but did not take part to any action there, since their range was not long enough and as soon they crossed the Channel they had to go back. Thus they were deployed for airport night defense, in single night flights. Look, the English expedition was something we should forget: wrong bombardments, useless machines. However, the combat of November 11th was a great one! Consider that years later I had the opportunity to meet those who participated on the opposite side, in Munich (or Monaco? In Italian both cities are called Monaco), during a meeting of veterans from all nations that took part in WWII except Russia. I was looking for the French Clostermann, who wrote some books, the first very interesting, but the second full of those stereotypes about Italians, except that he admitted he never met us in flight. Then a guy approaches and asks me: "Are you Gorrini?" "Yes, I am" I answer. He was Peter Townsend, the British fighter ace, who spook perfectly Italian since he studied in Florence. "It was you on that CR.42 who shot me and hit me on the heel!" "So, if it was me, then you were that Hurricane who shot me and the bullets passed through my legs!" We became friends and each time he came to Italy I went to pick him at the airport. Since he was passionate by cars and I knew Eng. Ferrari, I brought him in Maranello where he could drive a "muletto" ("little mule", the Italian way to call a "spare car" in Formula 1)... he was like he was dreaming!
Q. And what happened after the Battle of Britain?
A. We went back, but before we had to remove the wheel fairings since there was so much snow (that the wheels got stuck). We went back because things were going bad in Africa. There was the Gen. Graziani's retreat and in a couple of days we were in Sirti, landing in very bad weather. But consider that during a transfer we never, I said never, lost a single airplane. From Mirafiori we landed in Pisa, then in Reggio Calabria, then in Pantelleria, Zuare (?), Castelbenito and finally Sirte, very near to the frontline. We cold see endless lines of disbanded soldiers, they were fleeing, nobody would stop them; we immediately set in the air to strafe English columns, in particular around Agedabia and we managed to keep them at bay. I remember that our Major with some other officers took position over Balbia (?), pistols in their hands, trying to stop and regroup these disbanded, while we kept on going and going, again and again (we went back only when we were out of ammos). I think that our participation was really important, and also that of the VIII group and others. We stayed there for some months. Conditions were disastrous, we ate only "gallette" (disgusting army dry biscuits, believe me, I tried them!) and cans, the galletta used to swell into the stomach at high altitude causing pain and swellings... we lack water, it was full of flies and scorpions. At the end they sent us back to have some rest and we left the aircrafts to the group of Vizzotto or Balio, I can't remember. We went back homeland, we had 20 days out and the they brought us to Caselle where we had some flights on the FIAT G.50, to end up with the Macchi MC.200, the "Saetta" (Lightning), a radial engine monoplane. Then from there we went to Greece at Araxos in 1941, near to the see. We did soeme protection cruises. I remember that Argostoli and Cefalonia were no-flight zones, by order of the HQ. I remember seeing one day, together with one wingman, a dark airplane flying towards Argostoli. I followed it and I was going to shoot it, when I saw the German crosses, but my wingman, a young Sergeant, thought that I missed it and he shot. The airplane was full of gasoline and went down.
There was a trial and, fortunately, the young guy was acquitted since the airplane fell on the ground (?? I believe the crew survived...).
We did many naval escorts, down to the Aegean sea.
At a certain point they called us back: our group, the XVIII, was autonomous and could be engaged everywhere. The other group, the XXIII, was over Malta. They sent us again in Northern Africa, this time with the Macchi 200.

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, April 4, 2009 4:21 PM

What a great post Telsono, Thx for posting it.

Dave, yes it is solder. I have loads of different thicknesses. I cant remember the company i bought them from but i will and will let you know. Thx for the kind words though. Thank you also Frank.

My probs now seem to be the seams. The kit plastic is very thick and the whole length of the fuz is warped one way and the other. ie, right in the centre..too low at the front and too high at the back. LOL. Fun fun fun.

Oh and has anyone seen te gunsight that these suckers had? The kit doesnt have one so im in fabricate mode,

and the best i could find of it in situ,

...Guy

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Posted by soulcrusher on Saturday, April 4, 2009 8:28 PM

Guy that is some nice work on that cockpit. I have this one in the stash to. The three color camo always made me want to build one someday. I actually built and old Heller 1/72 D520 years ago. This should be a interesting build can't wait to see more.

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Posted by hkshooter on Saturday, April 4, 2009 9:24 PM
Great looking pit, Guy. But that's no gunsight, that's a fish tank!
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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, April 4, 2009 11:41 PM

Up on her gear for the first time, trying out her new legs...

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Sunday, April 5, 2009 12:10 AM
Frank - Outstanding Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] I am getting excited now you have gotten past the prop and spinner. Were is it's sidekick though ?  Very nice work !
Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, April 5, 2009 12:20 AM
Thanks Sean!  If you want a look at her sister, here she is. Wink [;)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Sunday, April 5, 2009 12:54 AM

 Guy? That is a French Aircraft in Italian Markings.  Excellent work bringing a rather simple crud pit to life!  You and your gunsites! I am all verklempt! You'd never catch me trying to do anything that crazy now but it is looking sweet!  Simply inspiring!

 

Frank what can I say you got both 109's on their way looking cool and even! That gear is tricky!  Looks like you may have to start a production paint booth! Got a lot coming together all at once don't ya?

Hmmmm French /Italian? Sounds like some new fangled salad dressing!

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Posted by Luftwoller on Sunday, April 5, 2009 3:32 AM

The game is afoot. I have plans for the fish tank err sight. Its the rand prix this morning, then ma visiting. Hopefully ill be able to attack the sight and the seams this afternoon.

Frank, the twins are looking great. When the paintbooth slot booked?

Aaron, Im pretty sure i could shoehorn anything into this GB as they (The italians) had the use of almost everything. I have a P51D...did they have one of those in thier arsenal?

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, April 5, 2009 8:31 AM

Thanks fellas!  You're right- lots os stuff ready or almost ready for paint.  Love those twins! Big Smile [:D]

 Luftwoller wrote:

I have a P51D...did they have one of those in thier arsenal?

Whistling [:-^]

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by Boba Fett on Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:47 AM
Ok, today is more seam-fixing. I want this thing ready for paint as soon as possible. I hope to spray on Spring break.

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Posted by telsono on Sunday, April 5, 2009 12:12 PM

Luftwoller - great work on the D.520. I have one started of the Taiya 1/48 kit with the Pend d'Oreille update set that is not available anymore. The French Midnight blue is hard to find for the cockpit color. Gunze has it.

There is also a publication by La Bancarella Aeronautica in Italian/English co-text entitled "Aerei Francesi nella Regia Aeronautica" (French Aircraft in the Regia Aeronautica). Stormo carries it as well as Pacific Coast Models.

Here's the second part of that article.

Here is Part II of the interview.
Enjoy!


A. Was the Macchi MC.200 any better than the CR.42?
Q. Yes, it was better, but still obsolete compared to English machines. It still had an open cockpit, that anyway in Africa was not the worst thing... We landed near Benghazi, where I had previously shot down, with the CR.42, two Blenheim that were going to bomb the port and afterwards I shot down another one. I saw many of them passing by in front of my nose, for a very simple reason: they were faster than us. If we were at high altitude we could catch them, otherwise it was impossible. The Blenheim was a light bomber and was escorted by the Beaufighter, a heavy fighter: two very beautiful machines.
From Benghazi we went to Ouadi-Tamed (?) and there, since we kept eating those dry biscuits and cans, one day I had a great idea. I took a CR.42 and flew over the Ouadi. There were many gazelles there drinking and hiding in the bush, but with the noise of the airplane they fled in the open field and I shot three or four of them. A truck got them and then there was meat for everybody. Another time we were in the Bomba (?) gulf and I said to the weapon smith: "Today we're going to have fish, take out the fuses from the 50 kg bombs". He did it and after the bobs went into the water, we had half a meter fishes coming up! I could even provide our group with some cars, because during a pursuit fly, or I'd better say a night recognition to intercept commandoes that attacked our airports by night, I saw a lot of abandoned cars in the middle of the desert. Once back I told this to our commander, Capt. Giuntella, and he gave me some specialists and a truck. We hadn't cars. With just got a SPA 38 truck, a barrel of gasoline and a barrel of water, a machine gun from a crashed aircraft installed on the roof. We went like this. We found the cars, there was no sign of bullets, no corpses, all those cars were English, and some from the Gaullist army. We even found some weapons. We were rather excited and we could salvage a lot of stuff. Some of the cars worked, others we had to pull them with the SPA. We were about to depart when we heard a single rifle shot, we couldn't tell from where it came and we returned fire with the MG, shooting it the air. We saw a man coming out from the bush, dirty and with torn clothes, with a red long beard and the hands in the air. He was the gunner of a Blenheim who bailed out after it was hit during a bombing over Tobruk. He wandered in the desert until he arrived there and there he staid for almost thirty days drinking the water of the radiators. We also understood why these cars were abandoned: they were in the middle of a minefield. My companions were worried, but little by little we managed to get out undamaged. We got back with our aircraft searching for us, we brought back some trucks and a French Peugeot that we offered to our commander. I found a V-engine Guzzi with the plate of Turin (TO). These cars were very useful later on, during the 5,000 km retreat when they got El-Alamein.
We were in Abu-Agad (?) when in the meanwhile they installed on our airplanes racks for special bombs, the "Mazzolino" bombs, that were very powerful bombs but with an aluminum body. It was said that with such bombs the Germans took the Maginot line. The problem was that if one got back with these bombs still attached to the racks, he could easily explode, and unfortunately that happened twice. Thus, they took off those racks and installed those for a couple of 50 kg bombs. So we also had to work as bombers, in particular when we advanced up to Marsa-Matruh where we joined the other group of ours euipped with the new Macchi 202. The fact that we were acting as fighter-bombers explain our badge: an angry wasp holding a dagger in one hand, which represents the fighter-interceptor, and the other hand in a boxing glove, which means fighter-bomber.
Q. Was the Macchi 202 a definitely better airplane?
A. It was already a competitive aircraft for sure. Anyway, when it was confronted to swarms of P-40 and Spitfires, even this machine couldn't do much.
Q. Was the Spitfire a tough one?
A. The Spit was a very tough one... it had lot of machine guns, plus two 20 mm cannons and it was faster. The 202 was significantly inferior in terms of speed and weapons. At a certain point the 4th Wing, which seemed the better Italian wing (later on, its commanders became Chief of the Air Force) and thus was always provided with the best aircraft, was called back when the situation started to deteriorate and it left us, the XVIII Group, its Macchi 202 and we gave our 200 to those poor guys of the VIII Wing who still had the CR.42. Finally, once we had a competitive airplane, it was a nightmare, since swarms of enemy fighter started to come against us.
Q. When did you realize what was happening, I mean the defeat of El-Alamein?
A. Quite late, even if we worried by the bombings that became progressively more frequent, by day and by night. And from far away we saw the first line that was hammered by their artillery. But until that time our place was left in peace, we were in Abu-Agad (?), near the seaside. Even when we kept some lights on by night their airplanes wouldn't touch us. But one night, instead... one of their bombers made a couple of tours and dropped two shattering bombs, in order to kill our people rather than destroy the aircrafts. They were not bombs conceived to explode deep, they killed a lot of pilots. That night I was in my bed in the tent, some ones were awake playing cards. Lights on inside and outside, and there were no shelters, the only protection was a line of empty petrol cans near the see, with some barbed wire and a heavy machine gun to protect us from sea incursions. I was sleeping on my camp bed, the tent was closed, I can't remember who opened it but I just ran out half naked. Me first, followed by Sandini and Scocchetti and the bomb fell among us. I jumped in the hole we used as a latrine, which was already full of people. I heard shouts, people calling for help, I was naked because the little dress I had was torn off by the explosion. I found Scocchetti keeping his belly while his intestine was coming out...
Lambertini was mortally wounded on his back and died beside me; another, who seemed to have nothing, was killed just by the air blast. We lost 12 among pilots and specialists. Another guy amputated his leg himself with his knife, poor Leo, while we were bringing him to the hospital. Then, the retreat began. An indescribable scene, it was difficult to believe what happened, what I've seen. We moved with our airplanes that were left, from base to base, or anywere we could land, we waited for Germans bringing us the gasoline during the night, sometimes the dropped it without looking were it went. We refueled the airplanes, armed them and waited the enemies to approach with their tanks and when they were almost arrived at the airfield we took off to meet them. Strafe, then fly back to another airport: we did like this 4,000 km. At the end we arrive in Tripoli at the Melaca (?) where there was a car circuit where they were running a car race, we had nothing to eat, nothing to drink. Uniforms and trousers were kept together with some brass wire, dirty. We had to move to Zuara, but four pilots were ordered to stay there with the Lt. Speicher and, once everybody was gone, to roll some gasoline cans into the warehouses. Inside there was just anything. Mountains of coffee, the, uniforms, desert gears. We had to pour gasoline and then shoot inside in order to make everything burn. There were mountains of bottled water from Ciampino, mountains of dresses, we had some fun opening a lot of crates, we were curious. We broke everything, I found a crate full of Leica cameras and put four of them around my neck, but I lost them on the way. We shot inside and burned everything. Then we arrived in Sfax and then Medelin and then Korba. By now, we were in Tunisia. I remember I stole the sheets of Maj. Camarda and I had the opportunity to participate to the battle of Kesserine, where the Americans were badly beaten by the Germans, and we were escorting German tanks, as it has been depicted on a painting made by an association of American air force aces directing two important museums. I know that in Arizona, in Mesa, there is a big picture of myself, together with one of Maj. Visconti, they invited me in America several times, but I don't feel to go there. They also invited me in London, and also in Munich (Monaco?), at the end they came here and made me sign a lot of pictures made by a painter showing myself, as a member of the Italian fighter air force, while I am escorting German Tigers in Tunisia. That painting is exposed near other paintings depicting the actions of Clostermann, the French, of Adolf Galland, the German, of Townsend, for England: the greatest air aces. I signed 600 of them and then they sold them for more than half a million! (of Liras, about 250 €). A friend of mine saw this, a guy who, after the war, had to go in America for fear, there were many of ours who went to America and there became civilian pilots.
Q. Now it's 1943: Tunisia, Sicily, war turns badly. What did you feel?
A. I was not sent to Sicily... however, we understood that war was lost after El-Alamein. We saw what resources they had, we shot down ten and, the day after, the double were attacking us. Instead, we couldn't anymore replace the losses and we begun lacking airplanes; we retired and left the airplanes to who was staying.
Q. In the summer of 1943 massive bombing of Italian cities begun: almost every city was hit and in particular the bigger ones, Naples, Genoa, Turin, Milan and, finally, Rome. What did you do to defend?
A. The II Wing came back to Italy, in Milan, and we were equipped with Macchi 202 and some Messerschmitts thet the Germans gave us. Since we were a very compact group, thy deployed us for the defense of Rome. We were in Ciampino, and we were leaded by Falconi, a very good guy but who was envied and hated until he became world champion of inverted flight; he was an independent man doing in his own manner, ignoring the bureaucrats of the Ministry. We were all deployed in south Ciampino, the whole wing, and although we were supposed to defend Rome we were often called to help over Naples that was just weakly protected by some autonomous squadron. Our Wing consisted in six Squadrons, more than sixty airplanes. One night, our bombers were taking off from north Ciampino in single actions, the SM. 79, one every five minutes. A Beaufighter had gotten on the tail of a SM.79 and had followed it to find out from where it had departed. When ours shot the signaling rocket to land, also the English aircraft was spotted and it was shot down by German flak.
Comm. Falconi said: "If that guy has communicated by radio our take-off position, tomorrow they will destroy our airport." By now they attacked their targets with at least two hundred four-engine bombers, massive formations.
Falconi didn't wait for the Ministry's order but at dawn ordered all efficient aircrafts to take off and head to Cerveteri, in the north of Rome. We went there.

I'll post the third and final part of this article later.

Mike T.

Beware the hobby that eats.  - Ben Franklin

Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. - Ben Franklin

The U.S. Constitution  doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. - Ben Franklin

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